Re: [WiX-users] How can I preserve service credentials on upgrade (with complications)?

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
Richard wrote: See Rich's reply: You can patch the existing product but that's still not going to give you silent uninstall/reinstall. I guess I'm not seeing why it can't be a silent upgrade... Maybe...if the keypath didn't change and the component otherwise stayed the same, the newe

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall question

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
David Scott wrote: > I have an application that installs a website on a port which can be > modified by the user at install time. The problem is that if they try > to uninstall it from Add/Remove Programs I get an error because it > tries to uninstall the website using the default port specified

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
dB. wrote: You all speak like a bunch of engineers :) There are rarely enough program managers on open-source projects. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challen

Re: [WiX-users] Trouble using CloseApplication CA

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti) wrote: So I figured out why this one is failing and the reason is a bit weird. So if I open VS as an administrator, then the MSI does not detect the VS instance else if I open VS by simply clicking the VS link in Programs, the MSI does detect VS. I am executing th

[WiX-users] She wants a bigger wiener

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Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread dB.
You all speak like a bunch of engineers :) From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:28 PM To: Rob Mensching; dB.; Daniel Hughes; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date I've often thought about creating and m

Re: [WiX-users] service fail to install due to networkService account

2008-05-27 Thread Ryan Perlman
To All, So when I attempted to do this in my service install element I am still getting the Failed because of required permissions. Would it be possible to see a complete snippet of this being used? My ServiceInstall Element is nested under a Component element with a File element whose keypat

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Christopher Painter
I've often thought about creating and marketing my own bootstrapper product. I know the stories and requirements inside out as I've done serviced product lines with vastly more complex prereq requirements then vs and office. The problem is I could only write in in C# as my C++ skills suck

Re: [WiX-users] Trouble using CloseApplication CA

2008-05-27 Thread Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti)
Hi Bob, So I figured out why this one is failing and the reason is a bit weird. So if I open VS as an administrator, then the MSI does not detect the VS instance else if I open VS by simply clicking the VS link in Programs, the MSI does detect VS. I am executing the MSI on Vista. I think this is

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Kelly Leahy
It sounds like your registration is happening in the wrong 'stage' of the install... Just because you're elevated in some places, it doesn't mean the entire run of the install is elevated. I think the elevation only occurs during the installexecutesequence, and only during the server side par

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Colin Bleckner
I was finally able to wrap my MSI with an EXE installer and run my installer with elevated permissions. And, of course, my installer still fails to register my DLL correctly (I guess that's what I get for trying to avoid the root problem...). Anyone have any ideas how a DLL can register corre

[WiX-users] Uninstall question

2008-05-27 Thread David Scott
I have an application that installs a website on a port which can be modified by the user at install time. The problem is that if they try to uninstall it from Add/Remove Programs I get an error because it tries to uninstall the website using the default port specified and not the port specified by

Re: [WiX-users] How can I preserve service credentials on upgrade (with complications)?

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > See Rich's reply: You can patch the existing product but that's still > not going to give you silent uninstall/reinstall. I guess I'm not seeing why it can't be a silent upgrade... -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Colin Bleckner
Ah, I've never heard of iexpress. Seems simple and pretty much perfect, except that it doesn't seem to recognize an MSI file as a valid file to run as the "Install Program" entry. My MSI doesn't show up in the dropdown list and typing the name manually ends up with an error during the actual

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Tony Juricic
I am working on a rather complex project using Wix 3 beta. It is expected that we will eventually generate frequent patches and minor upgrades (i.e. hotfixes and SPs) so a stable standard Wix plus patching functionality would be very desirable. Within next few months, if possible :) If MSI SDK bo

[WiX-users] how to configure application pool to run as integrated mode with WIX iis extension

2008-05-27 Thread zhisheng huang
Hi, how to configure application pool to run as integrated mode with WIX iis extension? I look at the wix help file and search web, but still have no idea yet. Thanks for help! Zhisheng _ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i’m

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
Joel, the experience you describe is what I've heard regularly enough to believe that WiX v3 needs a bootstrapper. The bootstrapper framework you ask for only needs time to develop. The design is basically squared away and we've been fortunate to have input from all of those teams you listed i

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Alex Goryuk
WiX 2.0 doesn¹t have a built in Setup.exe bootstrapper, but WiX 3.0 does, you can¹t ³wrap² the .MSI into the Setup.exe but you can use it as something that launches your MSIs elevated. Have you tried PaquetBuilder for wrapping the MSI into a .EXE ? As far as I can tell, the main reason to use a b

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
The problem is that everyone has to sign an assignment agreement and so far few people have been willing/able to do that. From: Brian Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 13:04 To: Luke Bakken Cc: Rob Mensching; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Peterson, Joel
We -- those who are currently developing with WiX, those who are stuck in purgatory with Windows Installer but InstallShield's interpretation of it, and those who will be writing an installer in the near future -- are in dire need of a decent bootstrapper. I see shining examples of good bootstrappe

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Brian Rogers
If I'm not mistaken, the legality behind contribution from the Microsoft standpoint is the issue on having so noted hackathon. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Luke Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That means there will be no bootstrapper in WiX v3 and no improvement to > the IIS CustomActi

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Luke Bakken
> That means there will be no bootstrapper in WiX v3 and no improvement to the > IIS CustomActions to better handle IIS7. Basically, imagine the WiX v3 > toolset functionality of today plus fixing ~150 bugs. > > Thoughts? My $0.02: I've been using the Platform SDK MSI bootstrapper with WiX to

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
Fair. Of course, I don't think we should be looking to take over the world with the WiX toolset (we probably need more people answering questions and improving the overall documentation before getting thousands and thousands more users ) but I'm always open to suggestions about what we should d

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread dB.
Rob, I think you completely nailed it when you say "We could cut the bootstrapper (again) to focus solely on bugs and probably "finish" WiX v3 sooner but I believe the bootstrapper is more important than that." This is a typical dilemma of any software project. If Wix cost 100$ you could make 100'

Re: [WiX-users] How are strings allocated by Wix released these days?

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
"wcautil" is built on top of "dutil". "WiX Custom Action Utility library" has only MSI related stuff. "Delivery Utility library" has a bunch of functions that I've collected in the many years I've been writing C++ stuff (you can find some old stuff that is of questionable quality sometimes ).

[WiX-users] How are strings allocated by Wix released these days?

2008-05-27 Thread Tony Juricic
I've seen sample code in blogs like: hr = WcaGetProperty(L"SQLSERVERPASSWORD", &pszPassword); ExitOnFailure(hr, "Failed to get property"); . LExit: . ReleaseString(pszPassword); and I started following this style in my custom actions. However, I don't know how ar

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Neil Enns
Did you try looking at iexpress? I've never used it, but John suggested it last week for building a wrapper exe. Just open a cmd window and type "iexpress" for the wizard. Neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module system folder Id clash problem

2008-05-27 Thread Tony Juricic
I am installing the following modules: which, in terms of the files, is: asycfilt.dll comcat.dll mfc42.dll msvcirt.dll msvcp60.dll msvcrt.dll oleaut32.dll olepro32.dll stdole2.tlb At this time SystemFolder entry in my project.wx

Re: [WiX-users] Trouble using CloseApplication CA

2008-05-27 Thread Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti)
Hi Bob, I am afraid but the log shows that the CA ran successfully, although it doesn't touch the property. Whereas this works with all the other application exes. Wonder why it doesn't work for VS exe. Any clues? Thanks, Kiran From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Kelly Leahy
Hehehe... just got done blogging about how to make a single-.EXE package with .NET yesterday. The methodology I used can be used for both managed and unmanaged projects (although it's admittedly much easier for managed projects). It may help a little, though its not exactly what you're lookin

[WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-27 Thread Colin Bleckner
I know this is a total cop out, but I don't know how else to deal with my Vista UAC issues right now. :( People have mentioned that one way around some of the issues is to create an EXE wrapper that requests elevated permissions and then runs my MSI. Is this easy to create? I'd like to try t

Re: [WiX-users] Trouble using CloseApplication CA

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti) wrote: I am trying to use the 'CloseApplication' CA to avoid installation if any instances of Visual Studio are running. The action does not work properly and the installation continues even if VS is open. I tested the CA by specifying 'notepad.exe' as the target and

Re: [WiX-users] How can I preserve service credentials on upgrade (with complications)?

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
dB. wrote: This scenario is extremely frustrating. The only way I can upgrade a service during a major upgrade is by suppressing InstallServices / DeleteServices, which is far from ideal (since I will never be able to add a new service). Nor will you be able to uninstall the service. My

Re: [WiX-users] Help with Flash merge module.

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
polshin wrote: > I am also using your Merge ( *.msm - flashplayermergemodule.msm ) module to > include flash-installation suport in my desktop (Win32) application. So to > build *.msi i am using WiX 3.0 . And i have the following trouble - during > build I get error message:- > The errors a

Re: [WiX-users] Bug in 3.0.4123

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
Steffen Guhlemann wrote: version 3.0.4123 introduced a bug with missing dlls. The problem is that we downgraded the version of mergemod.dll. See http://www.joyofsetup.com/2008/05/27/the-case-of-the-missing-mergemoddll-in-wix-v304123/. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/

Re: [WiX-users] Removing dialog causes error 2707

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
Ryan O'Neill wrote: I've found out the cause of this. It is because the button that advanced on to the next form did not have an EndDialog action. Therefore the dialog had not finished so the sequencing was all awry and the target directory did not get set. Should we always terminate a dia

Re: [WiX-users] wix 3.0.4123 custom action templates

2008-05-27 Thread John Lalande
No love here either. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Christopher Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried it a few times but that doesn't seem to light up the project > template for me on 2005. > > *Jason Ginchereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > The templates were installed properly, but

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
Interesting. Let's go back and look at the things that are driving the WiX v3 release. 1. Bugs. WiX v2 was marked "stable" by pushing a number of bugs to WiX v3 (especially Votive bugs). There are still a lot of bugs open that need to be fixed. I do not just want to push a bunch of WiX v2

[WiX-users] Installing driver when the installer files include subdirectories

2008-05-27 Thread Richard Amos
I've been using the difx:Driver tag to installer a scanner driver - got that working OK. Now I'd like to installer a printer driver using the same technology. The problem is that when I unzip the printer install files it has two subdirectories under the root directory (containing the INF file).

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
I wasn't intentionally keeping it keeping it quiet. I'm still struggling to figure out the best way to use the communication outlets provided on SourceForge. If you go to the SourceForge page for WiX http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/ you'll see a mention in the news there and that the pro

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Jeremy Farrell
> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:10 PM > > WiX v2 *is* out of beta. It has been for a good many months > (http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2008/02/17/WiX-toolset-o > n-SourceForge-marked-ProductionStable.aspx). We're going to > have to do an

Re: [WiX-users] How can I preserve service credentials on upgrade (with complications)?

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
Another alternative is to patch the old installer to know about upgrading before you upgrade it. This requires a bootstrapper to apply the patch to the old version before you upgrade it, but its something that I've done before to patch deficiencies in the old version that interfered with the upgr

Re: [WiX-users] How can I preserve service credentials on upgrade (with complications)?

2008-05-27 Thread dB.
I expected this answer, unfortunately I have such a thing as a silent upgrade. This scenario is extremely frustrating. The only way I can upgrade a service during a major upgrade is by suppressing InstallServices / DeleteServices, which is far from ideal (since I will never be able to add a new

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread dB.
I understand this approach, but it's very Microsoft-Windows-like: a project that lasts years. I am fine using wix in its beta form, but that's because I am both management and development. Had I been only management, I wouldn't have made this call. My 0.02c is that it would greatly benefit wix ad

Re: [WiX-users] Maybe a bug in the File element?

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
What's the problem exactly? That syntax should be just fine. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Mumford Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 16:40 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Maybe a bug in the File element? I'm trying to rename my file during

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
WiX v2 *is* out of beta. It has been for a good many months (http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2008/02/17/WiX-toolset-on-SourceForge-marked-ProductionStable.aspx). We're going to have to do an "SP1" to add the MSI4.5 features to WiX v2 in the not too distant future but that will be 100% bac

Re: [WiX-users] Help with Flash merge module.

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Mensching
Looks like the Merge Module doesn't pass validation and your install is inheriting all those failures. You might try running smoke.exe on the MSM before merging it into your MSI. Some of the errors are pretty scary: ICE27 is really a structural thing and could be very bad for your install. To