I understand this approach, but it's very Microsoft-Windows-like: a
project that lasts years. I am fine using wix in its beta form, but
that's because I am both management and development. Had I been only
management, I wouldn't have made this call. 

My 0.02c is that it would greatly benefit wix adoption to stabilize on a
more limited feature set and release 3.0 in 2008.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob
Mensching
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:49 PM
To: Daniel Hughes; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

1.  The "SourceForge drops" weren't any different than the weekly
releases.  Since there is a fair bit of overhead in getting the drops on
to the SourceForge releases page, the cost to benefit ratio wasn't
working out.

2.  We could do a drop to the "releases page" but it really wouldn't be
any different than a "weekly release".  Instead, I've been considering
"releasing" a web page that points at the weekly releases to make it
clearer where to get WiX v3 drops.

3.  I expect WiX v3 will come out of beta sometime mid-next year.  My
hope is to get all of the major features and the majority of the bug
back log taken care of by the end of this year and then just bake for 9
or so months.

4.  I have an old blog post that talks about what WiX v3 is about
(http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2007/04/10/WiX-v3-Roadmap-Draft.as
px).  The ClickThrough features on that roadmap are probably not going
to make it since we have a larger bug count than anticipated.  Also,
IIS7 is turning out to be a pain point that I believe we're going to
have to find some way to tackle.  Plenty of work to be done before the
end of the year.

5.  To be clear, we're focused on working towards completing WiX v3
right now, not stabilizing it. "Completing" means we're fixing every bug
and getting features checked in.  "Stabilizing" means punting bugs and
definitely not adding features.  We spent about a year "stabilizing" WiX
v2 before a lot of people suggested that it was done.  I'm hoping we
move a bit faster through stabilizing WiX v3 since the VS team has
donated a few extra resources.

6.  Note: we had someone during the WiX v2 timeframe that took the
effort to pick "high quality" v2 builds and push them out to
SourceForge.  If you wanted to start managing that type of process for
WiX v3, feel free to contact me and we can talk about it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel
Hughes
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 18:43
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

Hi,

I have noticed that WIX 3.0 has been a beta for a long time.

The current source forge drop is now over a year old 2007-05-25 09:31,
Thats a long time people.... that drop didn't even work with VS2008

I know you can get the weekly builds but those of us who want to use WIX
3.0 in our products require something a little more proven then a weekly
release.....

So when is WIX 3.0 coming out of BETA.... and when do we get at least
another sourceforge drop...

Is their some kind of roadmap.... or at least some kind of estimate for
the release date...  What about a list of stuff which needs doing before
the release....?

Cheers,
Daniel





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