Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Oxford Wikimedians

On 24/06/12 17:36, Martin Poulter wrote: A dozen students in international politics (mostly graduate students) were trained in Wikipedia editing earlier this year, and there was a massively-well-attended public lecture by Jimbo which stirred up a lot of enthusiasm for Wikipedia amongst students a

[Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/24/wikipedia-founder-richard-odwyer-extradition-stopped And before you email the Guardian in the on-line version he has become 'founder' not 'chief'! -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25 June 2012 09:13, Jon Davies wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/24/wikipedia-founder-richard-odwyer-extradition-stopped > And before you email the Guardian in the on-line version he has become > 'founder' not 'chief'! Better than "Wikipedia boss" ... - d. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25/06/12 09:13, Jon Davies wrote: And before you email the Guardian in the on-line version he has become 'founder' not 'chief'! Not "co-founder" then? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/ma

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

Rather than nitpicking about this, I hope people are signing the petition and sharing it via twitter and facebook. I mean, _linking to_ online TV is considered a copyvio? Next thing you know, being able to remember any details of a TV show you watched last week will be considered a copyvio for hav

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25/06/12 10:59, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Rather than nitpicking about this, I hope people are signing the petition and sharing it via twitter and facebook. I mean,_linking to_ online TV is considered a copyvio? Next thing you know, being able to remember any details of a TV show yo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25/06/12 09:13, Jon Davies wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/24/wikipedia-founder-richard-odwyer-extradition-stopped And before you email the Guardian in the on-line version he has become 'founder' not 'chief'! http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/may/01/wikipedia-research-

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [OSGeo-UK] FOSS4G is coming to Nottingham!

FYI, No website for 2013 as yet, but see... http://2012.foss4g.org/ http://foss4g.org/ Context: 1) Open Source, Open Knowledge, Open Data. 2) A major international conference comes to the UK. Gordo Original Message Subject:[OSGeo-UK] FOSS4G is coming to Nottin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

> From: Gordon Joly > > I mean,_linking to_ online TV is considered a copyvio? Next thing you > > know, being able to remember any details of a TV show you watched last > > week will be considered a copyvio for having a 'copy' in your brain. > I am not sure of the charges, but, yes, I can see h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25/06/12 12:02, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: You have to wonder, is surrounding himself with blithering idiots the only way David Cameron escapes looking like an utter prat? I would say that was an "ad hominem" remark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Good night! Gordon _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

Wow, how easily recent history is forgotten. On Jun 25, 2012 12:02 PM, wrote: > > > From: Gordon Joly > > > > I mean,_linking to_ online TV is considered a copyvio? Next thing you > > > know, being able to remember any details of a TV show you watched last > > > week will be considered a copyvi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

And humming the theme from Dad's army On 25 June 2012 12:07, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 25/06/12 12:02, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: > > You have to wonder, is surrounding himself with blithering idiots the > only way David Cameron escapes looking like an utter prat? > > I would say tha

[Wikimediauk-l] Reports for 30 June WMUK Board meeting

Hello everyone, Ahead of this weekend's Wikimedia UK Board meeting, I'd like to direct you to this page on the UK wiki . There are a number of useful documents on the page including: - Final draft of the five year plan - Communications strateg

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

No, Brian's criticism or speculation about a person does not constitute Argumentum Ad Hominem. These logical terms have a specific meaning (described quite well in the Wikipedia article) and it irks me to see "Ad Hominem" used to mean "insult" or "criticism". On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Gord

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Gordon Joly wrote: > > On 25/06/12 12:02, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: > > > > You have to wonder, is surrounding himself with blithering idiots the > > only way David Cameron escapes looking like an utter prat? > > > > I would say that was an "ad hominem"

[Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

I am pleased to announce that we are recruiting for a Developer. Details are available on the UK wiki. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_job_description#About_Wikimedia_UK Please email me for an application form. Jon Davies P.S. Please feel free to share this with sympathetic organisation

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 14:44, Jon Davies wrote: > I am pleased to announce that we are recruiting for a Developer. > > Disappointed that a community view expressed here has been brushed aside. The Board members who participated in the discussion on this list did not convince me, at least, that the ideas

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

A matter of timescales - getting really close to the fundraiser and other things. Lots of opinions from different people and yet a decision had to be made. Not an easy decision to make and those making it have shown leaderships I think. You can't please all the people all of the time and this discu

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 15:54, Jon Davies wrote: > A matter of timescales - getting really close to the fundraiser and other > things. > Lots of opinions from different people and yet a decision had to be made. > Not an easy decision to make and those making it have shown leaderships I > think. You can't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 15:54, Jon Davies wrote: > A matter of timescales - getting really close to the fundraiser and other > things. > Lots of opinions from different people and yet a decision had to be made. > Not an easy decision to make and those making it have shown leaderships I > think. You can't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 16:10, Thomas Morton wrote: > > As a point of interest; what *exactly* does need to be done for the > fundraiser? I've seen no actual specification; and what I was suggesting > when we last had these discussions is that we outline more specifically the > needs in this area. > > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On Jun 25, 2012 3:40 PM, "Charles Matthews" wrote: > > On 25 June 2012 14:44, Jon Davies wrote: >> >> I am pleased to announce that we are recruiting for a Developer. >> > Disappointed that a community view expressed here has been brushed aside. The Board members who participated in the discussio

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 18:49, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > It may surprise you to hear that Mike was the one arguing for contractors, > so this certainly isn't a matter of refusing to budge from your first > decision. > Is Mike's view that having a contractor in to fix the SSL problem would cost too much g

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 19:18, Charles Matthews wrote: > Is Mike's view that having a contractor in to fix the SSL problem would cost > too much generally shared? The SSL does impact on the credibility of the > fundraiser, which raised £1M last time and one would hope that number would > go up in future.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 19:23, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 25 June 2012 19:18, Charles Matthews > wrote: > > Is Mike's view that having a contractor in to fix the SSL problem would > cost > > too much generally shared? The SSL does impact on the credibility of the > > fundraiser, which raised £1M last tim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 19:31, Charles Matthews wrote: > Could you answer the question? You are making an assertion which rather begs > the question why a community member hasn't done exactly that. No, I can't answer the question because it is based on a false premise. As you know, you can prove anything

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

SSL might be a bad example. It's only a couple of hours work to fix; I offered to do it once. Tom Morton On 25 Jun 2012, at 19:18, Charles Matthews wrote: On 25 June 2012 18:49, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > It may surprise you to hear that Mike was the one arguing for contractors, > so this cer

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 19:39, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 25 June 2012 19:31, Charles Matthews > wrote: > > Could you answer the question? You are making an assertion which rather > begs > > the question why a community member hasn't done exactly that. > > No, I can't answer the question because it is ba

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

SSL *is* fixed, or at least the issue has been worked around. The issue here is the long-term maintenance of SSL, to ensure that it continues to work and can be quickly fixed if it breaks, and can be extended as needed - particularly during the critical fundraising period. Having a staff member

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 19:48, Charles Matthews wrote: > OK, I have an answer of sorts. To me fixing the SSL looks urgent. So one > could say that paying the going commercial rate to have it fixed, by someone > who knows what he or she is doing, is a good idea. Then the hiring of a > technical person (I t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On 25 June 2012 20:10, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 25 June 2012 19:48, Charles Matthews > wrote: > > OK, I have an answer of sorts. To me fixing the SSL looks urgent. So one > > could say that paying the going commercial rate to have it fixed, by > someone > > who knows what he or she is doing, is

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Developer post

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > > > As a point of interest; what *exactly* does need to be done for the > fundraiser? I've seen no actual specification; and what I was suggesting > when we last had these discussions is that we outline more specifically the > needs in this

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 25/06/12 10:59, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: > >> Rather than nitpicking about this, I hope people are signing the >> petition and sharing it via twitter and facebook. >> >> I mean,_linking to_ online TV is considered a copyvio? Nex