SSL *is* fixed, or at least the issue has been worked around. The issue here is 
the long-term maintenance of SSL, to ensure that it continues to work and can 
be quickly fixed if it breaks, and can be extended as needed - particularly 
during the critical fundraising period. Having a staff member sat in the office 
monitoring and able to quickly fix things as needed solves that problem in a 
very efficient manner. Having a contractor would solve it, but in slower, more 
expensive and less long-term manner.

Thanks,
Mike

On 25 Jun 2012, at 19:48, Charles Matthews wrote:

> 
> 
> On 25 June 2012 19:39, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25 June 2012 19:31, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> 
> wrote:
> > Could you answer the question? You are making an assertion which rather begs
> > the question why a community member hasn't done exactly that.
> 
> No, I can't answer the question because it is based on a false
> premise. As you know, you can prove anything you like if you start
> from a false premise.
> 
> > I wanted to analyse the difference between what you were saying about Mike
> > being will to hire contractors, and the fact that he is not willing to do so
> > in a matter that actually now impacts, via the fundraiser, on the
> > livelihoods of six employees (as it will be when the dev is hired). I want
> > to understand the decision-making process Mike employs.
> >
> > I thought I might be able to understand that much. The hiring decision is
> > apparently too complicated to explain to the community on this list, so
> > let's start with just one instance of what is involved.
> 
> As I've explained, the SSL will get fixed. There is no question of
> whether WMUK (this isn't Mike's decision, he's just the one that did
> the hard work of drafting the job description) is willing to fix it.
> The question is simply over the best way to go about fixing it. The
> chapter has decided to go about fixing it by hiring a general
> technical member of staff.
> 
> Leadership is often not about making the right decision, but just
> about making a decision. By far the worst outcome would be to spend
> ages debating this and end up not having anyone in time to fix
> anything before the fundraiser. As Jon has said, the board have shown
> excellent leadership by making a decision when a decision needed to be
> made. Whether it was the optimal decision really isn't important when
> compared to the downside of not making a decision at all.
> 
> OK, I have an answer of sorts. To me fixing the SSL looks urgent. So one 
> could say that paying the going commercial rate to have it fixed, by someone 
> who knows what he or she is doing, is a good idea. Then the hiring of a 
> technical person (I think a CTO is needed right now, not a dev, but that 
> appears to be a minority view) could proceed uncluttered by that decision. 
> What you are telling me, Tom, is that this is not the way the Board thinks.
> 
> Charles
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