Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Upayavira
bad feeling about releasing half > > > baked > > > project, technically we can create new RC candidate today and vote. From > > > what I know all legal issues are already solved. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:43 PM Christian Grobmeier > > >

Re: Discuss: Release (was: Fwd: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap))

2015-03-31 Thread Yuri Z
>> Didn't Ali create release docs? Can't find them on the Wave-wiki, not >> sure if they actually exist >> >> >> - Original message - >> From: Yuri Z >> To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap) >> D

Re: Discuss: Release (was: Fwd: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap))

2015-03-31 Thread Yuri Z
doing a release, I create a tag, get the release from that tag, and > finally merge that into /master. > > Didn't Ali create release docs? Can't find them on the Wave-wiki, not > sure if they actually exist > > > - Original message - > From: Yuri Z >

Discuss: Release (was: Fwd: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap))

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
merge that into /master. Didn't Ali create release docs? Can't find them on the Wave-wiki, not sure if they actually exist - Original message - From: Yuri Z To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:45:29 + So, shoul

Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Yuri Z
vote. From > > what I know all legal issues are already solved. > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:43 PM Christian Grobmeier > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > from the huge thread "Roadmap" I took a way the following po

Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ally we can create new RC candidate today and vote. From > what I know all legal issues are already solved. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:43 PM Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > from the huge thread "Roadmap" I took a way the f

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ould like to have your company named on the webpages, I suggest > > you open up a new mailing thread with this topic as it might not be seen > > here. > > > > Please let me know if any more questions. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Christian > > > > > &

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-31 Thread Yuri Z
new mailing thread with this topic as it might not be seen > here. > > Please let me know if any more questions. > > Thanks! > > Christian > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > > > I can share my own roadmap - or things

Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Yuri Z
today and vote. From what I know all legal issues are already solved. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:43 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi, > > from the huge thread "Roadmap" I took a way the following potential > action items: > > - Client/Server split, maybe common >

Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, from the huge thread "Roadmap" I took a way the following potential action items: - Client/Server split, maybe common - Setup testing - Setup CI - Replace GXP templating system - Improve buildsystem with using Maven, Gradle or SBT - Replace custom configuration framework with

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
p a new mailing thread with this topic as it might not be seen here. Please let me know if any more questions. Thanks! Christian > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > I can share my own roadmap - or things I would do. > > > > 1. Modernization

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-27 Thread Thomas Wrobel
Pablo , I might be interested in using your project as it gells with my own project (arwave.org - we want to establish a system for selectively shared geolocated content. Think collaboratively constructed and shared virtual worlds, not tied to any one company's server or even client). Is your proje

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-27 Thread Pablo Ojanguren
I fully agree with Thomas, You can split the client and sever without switching languages. > This is common in GWT projects. > You just have > - client (gwt java) > - sever (java) > - common (gwt-subset of java, but not using any gwt specific things) > > Common can then be imported by any non-gwt

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-27 Thread Thomas Wrobel
You can split the client and sever without switching languages. This is common in GWT projects. You just have - client (gwt java) - sever (java) - common (gwt-subset of java, but not using any gwt specific things) Common can then be imported by any non-gwt (but still Java) clients, such as Android

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-27 Thread Patrick Coleman
Is there an implementable design anywhere for how a client/server split would work? It continually comes up as a blocking point preventing people from working on Wave, though I'm not familiar with plans for fixing it that maintain all required constraints. e.g. sharing business logic between clien

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado
El 25/03/15 a las 21:03, Andrew Kaplanov escribió: >> I patched this review before > I don't see your comments in the https://reviews.apache.org/r/22776/. The review was closed. I patched here: https://reviews.apache.org/r/28724/ > Could you create Jira issue about the problem with shortcuts? Do

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Andrew Kaplanov
> I patched this review before I don't see your comments in the https://reviews.apache.org/r/22776/. Could you create Jira issue about the problem with shortcuts? 2015-03-26 0:45 GMT+05:00 Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado : > El 25/03/15 a las 19:00, Andrew Kaplanov escribió: > > - It seems that some edit

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado
El 25/03/15 a las 19:00, Andrew Kaplanov escribió: > - It seems that some edition shortcuts are broken since the akaplanov >> Profiling functionality: >> https://reviews.apache.org/r/22776/ >> (as a workaround I reverted FocusManager.java in my branch). > > Instead of having write this here you co

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Andrew Kaplanov
- It seems that some edition shortcuts are broken since the akaplanov >Profiling functionality: >https://reviews.apache.org/r/22776/ >(as a workaround I reverted FocusManager.java in my branch). Instead of having write this here you could write your patch. Or create Jira request. In any case, the

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Thomas Wrobel
impression from the other conversations in this list over the years. Maybe my perception is skewed due to my own opinions. I do think any roadmap should try to put forward the things that will get more people involved as a priority. Maybe to do that we need a more definitive measure of why people arnt j

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado
El 24/03/15 a las 12:12, Christian Grobmeier escribió: > we have volunteers for the next months. Why not discussing what we > should do? > > My first preference would be: craft a release. > I forgot what was missing back then, but it would be great to find out > from the mail archives and create j

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
I mainly agree with Yuri. I personally believe that the first steps should be addressing the part that make I hard for new developers to come in and help. Build System… replacing obscure technologies… developer docs. Separation of UI from server… etc. On 3/25/15, 3:08 AM, "Dave Ball" wrote

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Dave Ball
It might be a little out of date, but: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Source+Code+Organization might be a good start for anyone wanting to work on the client / server / common split. Anything with an x in both client and server columns would obviously be common! ;-) [Pablo: I

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread John Blossom
Liking what I am hearing. My ten cents: client/server/common model is good for libraries, yes, but need well-defined client APIs to allow multiple apps to access common data stores. Otherwise you get more balkanisation and the data model never takes off. federation required, preferably in a way

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Thomas Wrobel
On 24 March 2015 at 16:32, Dave Ball wrote: > >> Might it be better to have three "parts"? > - common > - server > - client > > Common would contain the document and concurrency model etc. Client and > Server would both depend on Common. Common would compile to JS for the > Client, but Server

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Upayavira
development and we would commit > more into the official repository. > > Does anybody have some plans? It would be nice to avoid duplicating our > implementation efforts. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > I can share my own roadmap - or things I wou

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread James Keener
> For example, personally I am interested on building new collaborative apps > with Wave's technology. But I don't need the conversation model and the > current GWT client app. So I am building my own API on top of Wave. I could have worked with the conversation model (though basically wouldn't ha

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Andrew Kaplanov
Today we are trying to do Wave faster. This problem was trying to decide Google, but did not. I believe that we can do it. 2015-03-24 22:14 GMT+05:00 Pablo Ojanguren : > From a technical perspective I mostly agree with Yuri's roadmap, priorities > apart and wiab.pro improvements

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Pablo Ojanguren
>From a technical perspective I mostly agree with Yuri's roadmap, priorities apart and wiab.pro improvements are awesome. But I think the big question is what can we do first to get new contributors and foster the community? Do we know what developers want from Wave? For example, persona

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Dave Ball
On 24/03/15 13:49, Yuri Z wrote: 3. Re-think how we should solve the tight coupling/great complexity of client-server protocol. Maybe we should split the Wiab project into two parts server and client - where server will depend on compiled javascript client. Might it be better to have three "part

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Kirill Kostyuchenko
ld be nice to avoid duplicating our implementation efforts. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > I can share my own roadmap - or things I would do. > > 1. Modernization > 1.1 Replace GXP templating system that is used to generate few front end > HTMLs with some

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Yuri Z
I can share my own roadmap - or things I would do. 1. Modernization 1.1 Replace GXP templating system that is used to generate few front end HTMLs with something that is main stream and well documented. 1.2 Replace ant scripts that are used to build the project/manage dependencies with something

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Adrian Wilkins
On 24/03/15 13:30, Thomas Wrobel wrote: > On 24 March 2015 at 13:56, Francesco Rossi wrote: > >> Client - server split as much as possible :) >> >> +1 > I think the question is if that task can be subdivided into smaller steps? > I presume there's a proper test suite? And continuous integration

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Thomas Wrobel
On 24 March 2015 at 13:56, Francesco Rossi wrote: > Client - server split as much as possible :) > > +1 I think the question is if that task can be subdivided into smaller steps? > > On 3/24/2015 4:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> we have volunteers for the next months. Why not discussing

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Francesco Rossi
Client - server split as much as possible :) On 3/24/2015 4:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: we have volunteers for the next months. Why not discussing what we should do? My first preference would be: craft a release. I forgot what was missing back then, but it would be great to find out from

Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
we have volunteers for the next months. Why not discussing what we should do? My first preference would be: craft a release. I forgot what was missing back then, but it would be great to find out from the mail archives and create jira issues for the open things. Maybe Ali could help here, as he wa

Re: WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-29 Thread ya knygar
our developer wiki up and running first.  Was > there any specific questions you had regarding the road map? > > I'm interested in Wave (I've been following this list for a while), > but since I don't know Java, I could help started with the > documentation/roadmap. Is there anything I can get started on?

Re: WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-29 Thread Waqqas Dadabhoy
loper wiki up and running first.  Was there any specific questions you had regarding the road map? I'm interested in Wave (I've been following this list for a while), but since I don't know Java, I could help started with the documentation/roadmap. Is there anything I can get started on?

Re: WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-28 Thread Michael MacFadden
7;s ok. > I do not have any specific question, only curiosity. Also I just published a > small article in my personal blog (see sig), and thought that any reader > arriving at the website could end up at the roadmap and get a wrong idea > about the real status of the project. >

Re: WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-28 Thread STenyaK
I understand. I suppose there's more pressing issues than that, so it's ok. I do not have any specific question, only curiosity. Also I just published a small article in my personal blog (see sig), and thought that any reader arriving at the website could end up at the roadmap and get a

Re: WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-28 Thread Michael MacFadden
e any specific questions you had regarding the road map? ~Michael On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:03 AM, STenyaK wrote: > The waveprotocol websitehas this roadmap [1], but it is outdated. Are there > plans to update it, or has it moved somewhere else? > > [1] http://www.waveprotocol.org/w

WiaB Functional Roadmap status

2011-04-28 Thread STenyaK
The waveprotocol websitehas this roadmap [1], but it is outdated. Are there plans to update it, or has it moved somewhere else? [1] http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/wiab-roadmap -- Saludos, Bruno González ___ Jabber: stenyak AT