Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-21 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
It may not be perfect, we may not have the source code for the image, but if the alternative is for the image to become a 404 at imgur, I've simply uploaded it to the wiki. Feel free to upload better versions, source version, submit a code review for inclusion in the svn repo, etc :-) https://cwi

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
Thanks Ali, My day to day work doesn't include much Java, but I have harbored an interest in OSGi for quite some time. Is there any other interest out there in identifying a subcomponent of the current implementation that might work as a bundle? If there's any curiosity at all, I'll take a stab a

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Lown
Ryan, Having never used OSGi Event Admin in a project, I can't speak for certain. A quick Google to see its use suggests the pub/sub model behind them both is the same, so you could say that it is similar. Ali On 18 June 2013 16:13, Ryan Hill wrote: > Hi Ali, > Without advocating for anything,

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
Hi Ali, Without advocating for anything, do you think WaveBus is at all similar to OSGi Event Admin? Just being curious... Thanks, --Ryan On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ali Lown wrote: > Yes. > > Originally, the WaveBus was how GWave components was split between > different machines, so had

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Lown
I wish. Sadly, not. :'( I seem to remember this being mentioned somewhere long ago... (Possibly one of the summit videos) On 18 June 2013 15:16, Yuri Z wrote: > Ali, do you have an access to internal GWave implementation? :O > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > >> Yes. >>

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Yuri Z
Ali, do you have an access to internal GWave implementation? :O On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Yes. > > Originally, the WaveBus was how GWave components was split between > different machines, so had an ethernet-backed implementation and made > a lot more sense than it does

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Lown
Yes. Originally, the WaveBus was how GWave components was split between different machines, so had an ethernet-backed implementation and made a lot more sense than it does currently. Now, it is simply a convenient abstraction to inform modules of WaveletUpdate and WaveletCommits around the whole

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread Dave
My understanding is that the Robots API is exposed externally, but WaveBus is an internal interface. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/trunk/src/org/waveprotocol/box/server/waveserver/WaveBus.java Dave On 18/06/13 13:53, John Blossom wrote: Thanks for the diagram, Dave, it helps

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread John Blossom
Thanks for the diagram, Dave, it helps me to visualize Wave's components. How much is the "wave bus" a reality as opposed to a potential division in programming? That is, in terms of how one binds/opens the bus, does it really function as an API. John Blossom On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Da

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-17 Thread Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado
El 17/06/13 01:44, Dave escribió: > Apparently yes: > http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/14710/is-there-a-way-to-get-an-embed-link-for-a-google-drawing > > > Rather than hosted externally, I wonder if the source for such > documentation would be better hosted (and owned) by the Apache pro

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Dave
Apparently yes: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/14710/is-there-a-way-to-get-an-embed-link-for-a-google-drawing Rather than hosted externally, I wonder if the source for such documentation would be better hosted (and owned) by the Apache project though - maybe alongside the other docs

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Zachary “Gamer_Z . ” Yaro
As an alternative, do Google Drawings support embedding? —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro On Jun 16, 2013 7:21 PM, "Sam Nelson" wrote: > An example of what I was talking about before: > https://rizzoma.com/topic/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/ > > This can be embedded using: > src="https://rizzoma.co

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Sam Nelson
An example of what I was talking about before: https://rizzoma.com/topic/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/ This can be embedded using: https://rizzoma.com/embedded/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/"; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Although the tool is not very advanced, it does allow for easy c

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Dave
Sure - What tool would you suggest Yuri? I just used what was to hand - OO Draw - but can upload the source somewhere? For my education, what are the inaccuracies? Dave On 16/06/13 22:58, Yuri Z wrote: It's not totally accurate IMHO. I would prefer some kind of mind map that can be edited an

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Sam Nelson
Although I haven't tested it myself, there is a mindmap gadget in Rizzoma (separate from the mindmap view). If that could be used to build this diagram then Rizzoma already supports anonymous access of public topics, and can be embedded in an octane, perhaps in the wiki? Yuri Z wrote: >It's n

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Yuri Z
It's not totally accurate IMHO. I would prefer some kind of mind map that can be edited and improved over time. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Ali Lown wrote: > +1 to putting on the wiki. > > On 16 June 2013 21:07, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) > wrote: > > I don't know the accuracy of the i

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Ali Lown
+1 to putting on the wiki. On 16 June 2013 21:07, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote: > I don't know the accuracy of the image, but I vote for its inclusion in the > wiki. > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Dave wrote: > >> and now as a link, rather than attachment: >> >> http://i.imgur.com/

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
I don't know the accuracy of the image, but I vote for its inclusion in the wiki. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Dave wrote: > and now as a link, rather than attachment: > > http://i.imgur.com/gv4qMJY.png > > > > On 16/06/13 17:11, Dave wrote: > >> I couldn't find an overview of the various b

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-16 Thread Dave
and now as a link, rather than attachment: http://i.imgur.com/gv4qMJY.png On 16/06/13 17:11, Dave wrote: I couldn't find an overview of the various bits of the wiab server, and how they plumb together. So from a couple of hours digging into the codebase, I knocked up the attached diagram. I