Re: URIBL_BLACK unreilable?

2012-11-10 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Igor Chudov wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 08:47:57AM +0300, Jonathan Nichols wrote: So, why is it triggering URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_DBL_SPAM etc now, but not when I received the original spam? Or was the database updated with those URLs after I received that particular s

Re: URIBL_BLACK unreilable?

2012-11-10 Thread Igor Chudov
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 08:47:57AM +0300, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > > > > So, why is it triggering URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_DBL_SPAM etc now, but > > not when I received the original spam? > > > > Or was the database updated with those > > URLs after I received that particular spam? > > i > > It i

Re: URIBL_BLACK unreilable?

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Nichols
> > So, why is it triggering URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_DBL_SPAM etc now, but > not when I received the original spam? > > Or was the database updated with those > URLs after I received that particular spam? > i It is quite likely that it was not in the database when you received it, but was added

Re: URIBL_BLACK not working?

2009-05-24 Thread mouss
wolfgang a écrit : > My message below was rejected as spam: > : > 140.211.11.136_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_552_spam_score_(15.9)_exceeded_threshold/ > > So, I resend it with the queried domain name obfuscated. > Let me quote Alex's reply on the uribl list: > See http://

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-17 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:24 -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Unlike regular score lines for non-existent rules (which are kind of > > ignored), the relative score adjustment depends on the rule to be > > defined before. > > > > Given your demo rule above, [...] > > you ar

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Deugau
Matt Kettler wrote: Hmm, I'm not exactly sure why you'd do that. Are you trying to distribute updates rule sets over sa-update that contain score mods? Exactly. When I came across this the first time, I just created a meta rule with a score of -1 instead, and that's been working for months no

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-17 Thread Justin Mason
Kris Deugau writes: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Unlike regular score lines for non-existent rules (which are kind of > > ignored), the relative score adjustment depends on the rule to be > > defined before. > > > > Given your demo rule above, > > Nominally live, actually. I've had perfectl

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Kris Deugau wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> I just tested this, and it works perfectly on my system. I added this >> line to my local.cf: >>score URIBL_SC_SURBL (1.5) >> >> And that rule jumped from 0.5 to 2.0 in a test message. > > Yes, that works fine. What doesn't work is where the "sco

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-16 Thread Kris Deugau
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Unlike regular score lines for non-existent rules (which are kind of ignored), the relative score adjustment depends on the rule to be defined before. Given your demo rule above, Nominally live, actually. I've had perfectly legitimate staff email hitting FORGED_MUA

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 17:10 -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Yes, that works fine. What doesn't work is where the "score RULE (adj)" > entry is in a channel ruleset, and the original rule is in a different > channel or the stock ruleset. > > At least, as of last time I tried that was the case. And

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-16 Thread Kris Deugau
Matt Kettler wrote: I just tested this, and it works perfectly on my system. I added this line to my local.cf: score URIBL_SC_SURBL (1.5) And that rule jumped from 0.5 to 2.0 in a test message. Yes, that works fine. What doesn't work is where the "score RULE (adj)" entry is in a cha

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:55 -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > > You can always do a relative score adjust.. SA supports that you know: > > > > score URIBL_BLACK (1.5) > > > > Will take whatever the existing score is and add 1.5 to it. > > ... but this doesn't work in rule channel

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Kris Deugau wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> You can always do a relative score adjust.. SA supports that you know: >> >> score URIBL_BLACK (1.5) >> >> Will take whatever the existing score is and add 1.5 to it. > > ... but this doesn't work in rule channels pulled in by sa-update. :( > > (You *can

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Kris Deugau wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> You can always do a relative score adjust.. SA supports that you know: >> >> score URIBL_BLACK (1.5) >> >> Will take whatever the existing score is and add 1.5 to it. > > ... but this doesn't work in rule channels pulled in by sa-update. :( > > (You *can

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-15 Thread Kris Deugau
Matt Kettler wrote: You can always do a relative score adjust.. SA supports that you know: score URIBL_BLACK (1.5) Will take whatever the existing score is and add 1.5 to it. ... but this doesn't work in rule channels pulled in by sa-update. :( (You *can* have "score RULE newvalue" entries

RE: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-14 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 2008-10-13 05:28 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: URIBL_BLACK > > > On Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:29:33 PM, Yet Ninja wrote: > > > Something tells me your

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-13 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 10/13/2008 11:27 AM, Jeff Chan wrote: On Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:29:33 PM, Yet Ninja wrote: Something tells me your stats are either obsolete, biased, borked or your ham corpus would be quite a few other ppl's mainsleaze spam corpus. Imo, that 1.1% FP rating seems to have little valu

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-13 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:29:33 PM, Yet Ninja wrote: > Something tells me your stats are either obsolete, biased, borked or > your ham corpus would be quite a few other ppl's mainsleaze spam corpus. > Imo, that 1.1% FP rating seems to have little value in a global context. > thx for the tr

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-13 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 10/11/2008 12:43 AM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:15:00AM +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: 74.714 78.1593 1.11300.986 0.780.00 URIBL_BLACK Would you pls post those FP URIs so ppl can judge what your rating is based upon. (imperfect) command posted for my f

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-13 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 10/10/2008 11:19 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: This has come up on the list before, but... Looking at my most recent network run: OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 0 460740215640.955 0.000.00 (all messages) 0.0 95.5290 4.47100.955 0.00

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Benny Pedersen wrote: > >> Huh, why not simply: >> score URIBL_BLACK 6 >> Inside your local.cf? This is wasting CPU... ? >> > > olso works, but when sa-rules change the score you did not notice the change > > You can always do a relative score adjust.. SA supports that you know: score URIB

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Ned Slider
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of the fair amount of false negatives that get through, more than 90% of them appear to hit on URIBL_BLACK. I have incrementally increased it recently to a score of 5.0 (I hit on 6.0). The stuff that's still getting through seems to be hitting on only URIBL_BLACK.

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, October 11, 2008 00:32, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > score URIBL_BLACK (1.5) > you don't need another rule, you just want to add a value to the score. both ways do the same ? -- Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:15:00AM +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: > > 74.714 78.1593 1.11300.986 0.780.00 URIBL_BLACK > > Would you pls post those FP URIs so ppl can judge what your rating is > based upon. (imperfect) command posted for my future reference ... $ grep URIBL_BLACK h

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:01:48AM +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > meta URIBL_BLACK_ADJ (URIBL_BLACK) > describe URIBL_BLACK_ADJ Meta: i trust uribl more :) > score URIBL_BLACK_ADJ 1.5 > > that way you still benefit from score adjust on sa-rules The right way to do this is: score URIBL_BLACK (1.5

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! describe URIBL_BLACK_ADJ Meta: i trust uribl more :) score URIBL_BLACK_ADJ 1.5 that way you still benefit from score adjust on sa-rules Huh, why not simply: score URIBL_BLACK 6 Inside your local.cf? This is wasting CPU... ? olso works, but when sa-rules change the score you did not not

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, October 11, 2008 00:11, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: >> meta URIBL_BLACK_ADJ (URIBL_BLACK) >> describe URIBL_BLACK_ADJ Meta: i trust uribl more :) >> score URIBL_BLACK_ADJ 1.5 >> that way you still benefit from score adjust on sa-rules read last line here one more time > Huh, why not simply

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! I am very tempted to bump the score of it to 6.0 or higher, as it would drastically reduce spam, but I'd like to get any false positive feedback on doing that first. I haven't seen any so far, but I figure others must be doing this. meta URIBL_BLACK_ADJ (URIBL_BLACK) describe URIBL_BLACK

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, October 10, 2008 22:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am very tempted to bump the score of it to 6.0 or higher, as it would > drastically reduce spam, but I'd like to get any false positive feedback > on doing that first. I haven't seen any so far, but I figure others must > be doing this

Re: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
This has come up on the list before, but... Looking at my most recent network run: OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 0 460740215640.955 0.000.00 (all messages) 0.0 95.5290 4.47100.955 0.000.00 (all messages as %) 74.714 78.1593 1.

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:28:27PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > Both of these assume I know every person who needs to e-mail me, and > everything they will send me. Theo, you're active in enough open > source projects to know better. Well, you just said you were receiving a large amount of "syste

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: If these are from known good sources, just whitelist them (or skip SA altogether). Otherwise, if the names are specific, you could always use uridnsbl_skip_domain to bypass URIDNSBL checks on the parsed domains. Both of these assume I know e

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:05:17PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > I need to completely disable this over-opportunistic behavior. 90% > of my e-mails have either system output, or are concerning code > segments or router interfaces, etc, etc. I need these mails to get > through. > > At the very le

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Jo Rhett
From: Jo Rhett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to completely disable this over-opportunistic behavior. 90% of my e-mails have either system output, or are concerning code segments or router interfaces, etc, etc. I need these mails to get through. At the very least, common collisions like scri

RE: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
> From: Jo Rhett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > SA doesn't just look for full URLs, it looks for things that could be > > hostnames ala "copy www.example.com into your browser". > > This is fairly nonfunctional. I've been chasing around all sorts of > FPs that seem to hit pretty much every mess

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 30, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:07:04PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: There's no URL in this message. What is it mis-matching against? When in doubt, run through "spamassassin -D": [9710] dbg: uridnsbl: domains to query: sync.pl svcolo.com Thanks for

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-02 Thread Chris Lear
Jo Rhett wrote: Note: yes, uribl has their own mailing list. That server has been down for quite some time, so I gave up and posted it here in case someone is dual listed and can fix it. There's no URL in this message. What is it mis-matching against? This has been answered, but, if you're

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-01 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Jeff, > At 03:58 01-07-2007, Jeff Chan wrote: > >http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=sync.pl > > I missed that one. :-) It's not listed though. It was listed when I wrote. Jeff C.

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-01 Thread SM
Hi Jeff, At 03:58 01-07-2007, Jeff Chan wrote: http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=sync.pl I missed that one. :-) It's not listed though. Regards, -sm

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-01 Thread Duane Hill
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 at 05:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Quoting SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: At 12:07 30-06-2007, Jo Rhett wrote: Note: yes, uribl has their own mailing list. That server has been down for quite some time, so I gave up and posted it here in case someone is dual listed a

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-07-01 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 12:07 30-06-2007, Jo Rhett wrote: > >Note: yes, uribl has their own mailing list. That server has been > >down for quite some time, so I gave up and posted it here in case > >someone is dual listed and can fix it. > > > >There's no URL in this message. What i

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-06-30 Thread SM
At 12:07 30-06-2007, Jo Rhett wrote: Note: yes, uribl has their own mailing list. That server has been down for quite some time, so I gave up and posted it here in case someone is dual listed and can fix it. There's no URL in this message. What is it mis-matching against? There was a URL in

Re: URIBL_BLACK matching on messages with no URLs in them...

2007-06-30 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:07:04PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > There's no URL in this message. What is it mis-matching against? When in doubt, run through "spamassassin -D": [9710] dbg: uridnsbl: domains to query: sync.pl svcolo.com SA doesn't just look for full URLs, it looks for things that coul

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-20 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: >> ... >> List Mail User wrote: >> >>> Huh? (Lookup "strawman" in a dictionary, please.) >>> >> That's my understanding of what you were claiming happened. Yes, it >> looks like an absurdly weak argument. However, it's the argument you >> presented, as best I can

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
>... >List Mail User wrote: >> Huh? (Lookup "strawman" in a dictionary, please.) >That's my understanding of what you were claiming happened. Yes, it >looks like an absurdly weak argument. However, it's the argument you >presented, as best I can make sense of your posts. > >Or are you admitting th

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: > Huh? (Lookup "strawman" in a dictionary, please.) That's my understanding of what you were claiming happened. Yes, it looks like an absurdly weak argument. However, it's the argument you presented, as best I can make sense of your posts. Or are you admitting that you made

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
>... >List Mail User wrote: > >> Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to >> >copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. >> >> >> Also, whether cut&paste generates a referral all depends on your >> browser and the setting used in some

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mail User wrote: Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to >copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. Also, whether cut&paste generates a referral all depends on your browser and the settin

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: > Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to > >copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. > > > Also, whether cut&paste generates a referral all depends on your > browser and the setting used in some (e.g. Opera

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
>... > Matt, >> In each case, normal HTML gives a "referrer" page, so no affiliate >> ID is needed. > >Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to >copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. Also, whether cut&paste genera

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: >> > In each case, normal HTML gives a "referrer" page, so no affiliate > ID is needed. Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. (more extensive commentary directe

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread jdow
From: "List Mail User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List Mail User wrote: winterizewithscotts.com Scott's lawncare registered user updates. Matt, winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of "affiliate" spamming or misuse of "sweepstakes" entries. See: http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.php

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
>List Mail User wrote: >>> winterizewithscotts.com >>> >>> Scott's lawncare registered user updates. >>> >>> >> Matt, >> >> winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of "affiliate" spamming or >> misuse of "sweepstakes" entries. >> See: >> http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.p

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm thinking of something like: score URIBL_SURBL 2.0 score URIBL_AB_SURBL 1.812 score URIBL_JP_SURBL 2.087 score URIBL_OB_SURBL 1.008 score URIBL_PH_SURBL 0.800 score URIBL_SC_SURBL 2.498 score URIBL_WS_SURBL 0.140 Whereas I am thinking of increas

RE: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 06:09 > To: jdow > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain > > Right now JP+SC scores 8.585, w

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread Matt Kettler
jdow wrote: > > If a solution that leads to the grand total of all BL hits never > exceeding 5 with SA as it exists now and without a very complex > interlocking meta rule set I'll experience a very dramatic increase > in spams slipping through, from a couple a week, to maybe one an > hour. A fair

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mail User wrote: " Any information you provide to us (i.e., name, e-mail address, etc.)... or to provide you with special notices. ... A more complete quote reads: his information may be used to provide you with information *you've requested* ab

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: > > > " > Any information you provide to us (i.e., name, e-mail address, etc.)... > or to provide you with special notices. ... A more complete quote reads: his information may be used to provide you with information *you've requested* about our company, our products and our

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: >> winterizewithscotts.com >> >> Scott's lawncare registered user updates. >> >> > Matt, > > winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of "affiliate" spamming or > misuse of "sweepstakes" entries. > See: > http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.php/t-14640

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread List Mail User
>winterizewithscotts.com > >Scott's lawncare registered user updates. > Matt, winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of "affiliate" spamming or misuse of "sweepstakes" entries. See: http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.php/t-14640.html http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/i