Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-17 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: > I got the following reject this morning: > > : host mail.example.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 > Dynamic > Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam > 1.0.4-9.1 (http://www.magicspam.com/). > > > Do a reverse look up of 212.25

Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 11/10/10 2:45 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.11.10 08:23, Per Jessen wrote: I got the following reject this morning: : host mail.example.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 Dynamic Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam 1.0.4-9.1 (http://www.magicspam.com

Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
ample.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 >>>> Dynamic >>>> Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam >>>> 1.0.4-9.1 >>>> (http://www.magicspam.com/). >>> 40.14.25.212.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN CNAME >>> 40.32-63.14.25.2

Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-10 Thread Lee Dilkie
;> Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam >>> 1.0.4-9.1 >>> (http://www.magicspam.com/). >> 40.14.25.212.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN CNAME >> 40.32-63.14.25.212.in-addr.arpa. >> >> well, the 40.32-63.14.25.212.in-addr.arpa is sure

Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 10.11.10 08:23, Per Jessen wrote: >> I got the following reject this morning: >> >> : host mail.example.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 >> Dynamic >> Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam >>

Re: Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.11.10 08:23, Per Jessen wrote: > I got the following reject this morning: > > : host mail.example.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 Dynamic > Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam 1.0.4-9.1 > (http://www.magicspam.com/). 40.14.25.212.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN

Does anyone known the braindead anti-spam software "MagicSpam" ?

2010-11-09 Thread Per Jessen
I got the following reject this morning: : host mail.example.com[1.2.3.4] said: 550 Dynamic Style reverse DNS IP=[212.25.14.40].Rejected by MagicSpam 1.0.4-9.1 (http://www.magicspam.com/). Do a reverse look up of 212.25.14.40, and you'll see that it's perfectly alrig

Re: [SA] MagicSpam

2009-09-25 Thread Adam Katz
en doing some kind of hand-off to the real mail server. For 90+% of the users out there, no configuration options would be needed, and for a good number of the rest, a few menus could handle the bits that can't be resolved themselves. Traffic Control's selective tarpits are enough to sto

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-24 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 12:51 +0100, RW wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:46:42 +0100 > "rich...@buzzhost.co.uk" wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 23:36 +0100, RW wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) > > > linuxmagic wrote: > > > > > > > > Incidently the point about backscatter i

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-24 Thread RW
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:46:42 +0100 "rich...@buzzhost.co.uk" wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 23:36 +0100, RW wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) > > linuxmagic wrote: > > > > > Incidently the point about backscatter is wrong. The traditional > > approach of classifying, and then

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 19:45 -0400, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:40 PM, linuxmagic wrote: > > I really like this quote from their sales web site: > > "Now you can have MagicSpam spam protection for your Postfix (Linux) > Mail Servers. Complete

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 23:36 +0100, RW wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) > linuxmagic wrote: > > Incidently the point about backscatter is wrong. The traditional > approach of classifying, and then discarding or filing to a spam folder, > produces zero backscatter from spam. Backs

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread RW
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:07:09 +1200 Jason Haar wrote: > On 09/24/2009 10:36 AM, RW wrote: > > > > None of that really distinguishes it from SpamAssassin, people have > > been using SA that way for many years. > > > This is turning into a "I don't understand why everyone doesn't do > everything

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread RW
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:00:20 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 15:54 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > RW wrote: > > > Incidently the point about backscatter is wrong. The traditional > > > approach of classifying, and then discarding or filing to a spam > > > folder, prod

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:40 PM, linuxmagic wrote: > > Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions.  MagicSpam is > NOT anything like SpamAssassin.  LinuxMagic has been developing Anti-Spam > solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for quite some time, focusing o

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Jason Haar
On 09/24/2009 10:36 AM, RW wrote: > > None of that really distinguishes it from SpamAssassin, people have > been using SA that way for many years. > This is turning into a "I don't understand why everyone doesn't do everything themselves" thread. Face it: by being on this list we have all decla

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 15:54 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > RW wrote: > > Incidently the point about backscatter is wrong. The traditional > > approach of classifying, and then discarding or filing to a spam folder, > > produces zero backscatter from spam. Backscatter is actually caused by > > rej

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 23:36 +0100, RW wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) wrote: > > > Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. Indeed, it is. A *year* old. > > MagicSpam is NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been Thanks for poi

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
RW wrote: On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) linuxmagic wrote: Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. MagicSpam is NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been developing Anti-Spam solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for quite some time, focusing on the

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread RW
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) linuxmagic wrote: > > Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. > MagicSpam is NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been > developing Anti-Spam solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for > quite some time,

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 23.09.09 10:40, linuxmagic wrote: Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. MagicSpam is NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been developing Anti-Spam solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for quite some time, focusing on the

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.09.09 10:40, linuxmagic wrote: > Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. MagicSpam is > NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been developing Anti-Spam > solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for quite some time, focusing on the > SMTP trans

Re: MagicSpam

2009-09-23 Thread linuxmagic
Slightly old thread, but we should clear any misconceptions. MagicSpam is NOT anything like SpamAssassin. LinuxMagic has been developing Anti-Spam solutions for the ISP and Telco markets for quite some time, focusing on the SMTP transaction layer. This approach gives a more 'Zero Day&#

RE: MagicSpam

2008-09-16 Thread Koopmann, Jan-Peter
Well, since many guys are recommending "what they use" (IronPort, Barracuda) I thought I might bring BarricadeMX from Fort Systems into the game. Have a look at them. It is _very_ efficient and can be configured to use SpamAssassin as well. Comes with a very easy install for CentOS 5.2. Kind reg

RE: MagicSpam

2008-09-14 Thread Michael Hutchinson
en they shouldn't be running it. "no clue how to use it and what it's designed to do" - sounds like they need some education, these naïve people that you give Spamassassin to. Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-14 Thread Michael Scheidell
> At 09:44 12-09-2008, Jesse Stroik wrote: > There is SpamAssassin the project and SpamAssassin the software. The > project, under the aegis of the Apache Software Foundation, provides > a framework to support open source software development to deliver an > enterprise-grade, freely available so

RE: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Brent Kennedy
I have heard that the sonicwall email security appliance is pretty good. It gets expensive per user, but they have desktop controls in outlook. The other one is the service offered by mcaffee enterprise... I don't remember the name, but its essentially a service they host and your mail server o

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Jesse Stroik
Mouss, mouss wrote: It's more than a "common user" question. while I can build an *BSD/Debian/Centos box to do what I want, I did buy "COTS" firewalls, backup servers, ... etc. You're not talking about ease of setup, you're talking about quality and reliability of product. Spamassassin doe

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread SM
At 09:44 12-09-2008, Jesse Stroik wrote: setups if they want the largest possible customer base. Consider the difference between the primary goals of spamassassin and arbitrary commercial anti-spam solution: Spamassassin: To facilitate a community effort with the primary goal of accurate red

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread mouss
Jesse Stroik wrote: Karl, Ease of setup and use are not the primary reason for purchasing any product, IMO. Yes, but you aren't the common user. Many commercial products *must* have oversimplified setups if they want the largest possible customer base. It's more than a "common user"

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Karl Pearson
Excellent points. I'm glad I'm not a 'common user'... KLP On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jesse Stroik wrote: Karl, Ease of setup and use are not the primary reason for purchasing any product, IMO. Yes, but you aren't the common user. Many commercial products *must* have oversimplified setups if

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Jesse Stroik
Karl, Ease of setup and use are not the primary reason for purchasing any product, IMO. Yes, but you aren't the common user. Many commercial products *must* have oversimplified setups if they want the largest possible customer base. Consider the difference between the primary goals of sp

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Karl Pearson wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, fchan wrote: Hi, Sorry I don't have experience with this product. I do have limited experience with Barracuda Networks appliance and I think is a great product for an e-mail filter which I had experienced with my friend to set up

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Karl Pearson
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, fchan wrote: Hi, Sorry I don't have experience with this product. I do have limited experience with Barracuda Networks appliance and I think is a great product for an e-mail filter which I had experienced with my friend to set up on their network & email server. It is easy

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Schetterer
ram schrieb: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:25 -0700, fchan wrote: Hi, Sorry I don't have experience with this product. I do have limited experience with Barracuda Networks appliance and I think is a great product for an e-mail filter which I had experienced with my friend to set up on their network

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-12 Thread ram
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:25 -0700, fchan wrote: > Hi, > Sorry I don't have experience with this product. > I do have limited experience with Barracuda Networks appliance and I > think is a great product for an e-mail filter which I had experienced > with my friend to set up on their network & em

RE: MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread Martin.Hepworth
he.org Subject: Re: MagicSpam Rob, Spamassassin is more difficult to configure because commercial products don't have the luxury of requiring more sysadmin configuration. They have to be easy or no one would buy them. The disadvantage of them being easier is that they have less flexib

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread fchan
Hi, Sorry I don't have experience with this product. I do have limited experience with Barracuda Networks appliance and I think is a great product for an e-mail filter which I had experienced with my friend to set up on their network & email server. It is easy to set up, configure and maintain

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with this product? > It appears *noone* has any experience with it... Google finds only 2 links and they are on the company's own homepage. > My company wants to replace SpamAssassin with this product,

Re: MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread Jesse Stroik
Rob, Spamassassin is more difficult to configure because commercial products don't have the luxury of requiring more sysadmin configuration. They have to be easy or no one would buy them. The disadvantage of them being easier is that they have less flexibility, less information and less sit

RE: MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread Martin.Hepworth
ROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:12 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: MagicSpam Does anybody have any experience with this product? My company wants to replace SpamAssassin with this product, due to SpamAssassin being not being up to par other products. My argum

MagicSpam

2008-09-11 Thread robb
Does anybody have any experience with this product? My company wants to replace SpamAssassin with this product, due to SpamAssassin being not being up to par other products. My argument is that people we give SpamAssassin to have no clue how to use it and what it's designed to do, therefore