Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-05 Thread Robert Menschel
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting From:"jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Sun, 4 Jun 2006 17:43:46 -0700 To: From: "Evan Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: IncrediMail (5002253) is not a real e-mail client. You'

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-05 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Duane Hill wrote: > Sorry for blowing this thread way off its topic. :-| alt.spamassassin.recovery? -- John Hardin KA7OHZICQ#15735746http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Evan Platt
At 05:43 PM 6/4/2006, you wrote: Top Posting is putting the textAnd fubars who complain of your reply above the quoted text. excessively about top posting Bottom posting (as I am doing) is get replies that are side putting your reply below the original posted. quo

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Duane Hill
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, jdow wrote: From: "Duane Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, jdow wrote: Wayne, it would be heartily appreciated if you stopped sending the cutsie-pie trash to this mailing list. Use plain text. You have NO IDEA how much I despise those "incredimail" smilies and

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread jdow
From: "Duane Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, jdow wrote: Wayne, it would be heartily appreciated if you stopped sending the cutsie-pie trash to this mailing list. Use plain text. You have NO IDEA how much I despise those "incredimail" smilies and the trash they usually accompany.

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (05.06.2006/02:52 Uhr) schrieb Duane Hill, > On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, jdow wrote: >> Wayne, it would be heartily appreciated if you stopped sending the >> cutsie-pie trash to this mailing list. Use plain text. You have NO >> IDEA how much I despise those "incredimail" smilies and the trash >> th

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (05.06.2006/02:42 Uhr) schrieb jdow, > And YOU are trying to be a system administrator, Wayne? > Give me a BREAK! > {+_+} You are right @jdow - LOL -- Viele Gruesse, Kind regards, Jim Knuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #277289867 -- Zufalls-Zitat -- Man umgebe mich mit Luxu

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Duane Hill
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, jdow wrote: Wayne, it would be heartily appreciated if you stopped sending the cutsie-pie trash to this mailing list. Use plain text. You have NO IDEA how much I despise those "incredimail" smilies and the trash they usually accompany. {+_+} That's why I love Pine. Strictl

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread jdow
From: "Evan Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:43 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: The HTML must be from my email client. It doesn't send out any other way. There is nothing I can do about that. Top posting... I can only presume that means replying to one of the emails that were sent before?? Do I ha

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread jdow
Do I have control over where they post to? How do I control that? Wayne ---Original Message--- From: Jim Knuth Date: 06/04/06 13:58:51 To: WFGB Team Cc: Peter P. Benac; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting Heute (04.06.2006

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread jdow
A checking. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230 html#a4704507 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com. Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project M

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On 4 Jun 2006, at 18:35, WFGB Team wrote: Yes, we have someone looking into that this Wednesday to give us a quote on that. However the original issue was SPAM assassin detecting our own emails as SPAM. That issue has been resolved and therefore closing out the thread. All uppercase "SP

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jo
WFGB Team schreef: Hi, Please reread some of the comments you got. Your mails are delivered to other mail servers. These servers may also employ SpamAssassin. If your mails were being stopped or flagged on their way out by your own setup, think about their fate on the other side... Thunderbir

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (04.06.2006/20:43 Uhr) schrieb WFGB Team, > The HTML must be from my email client. It doesn't send out any other way. > There is nothing I can do about that. > Top posting... I can only presume that means replying to one of the emails > that were sent before?? > Do I have control over wh

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Evan Platt
At 11:43 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: The HTML must be from my email client. It doesn't send out any other way. There is nothing I can do about that. Top posting... I can only presume that means replying to one of the emails that were sent before?? Do I have control over where they post to? How

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread WFGB Team
Wayne       ---Original Message---   From: Jim Knuth Date: 06/04/06 13:58:51 To: WFGB Team Cc: Peter P. Benac; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   Heute (04.06.2006/19:35 Uhr) schrieb WFGB Team,   > Yes, we have someone looking i

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (04.06.2006/19:35 Uhr) schrieb WFGB Team, > Yes, we have someone looking into that this Wednesday to give us a quote on > that. However the original issue was SPAM assassin detecting our own emails > as SPAM. That issue has been resolved and therefore closing out the thread. > > Wayne

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread WFGB Team
. Benac Date: 06/04/06 13:28:48 To: spectacularstuff Subject: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   That is not solved.. All you did was mask the symptom!!   Your DNS is screwed up and screwed up bad.   > > Thank you everyone for your quotes, efforts and time involved.  We > actually &g

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread spectacularstuff
Thank you everyone for your quotes, efforts and time involved. We actually have this issue resolved now. Created a batch to interface in with Smartermail to bypass the SA checking. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230

Re: SPAM: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
WFGB Team wrote on Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:22:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time): PLEASE STOP SENDING PICTURES AND HTML TO THE LIST. > 0.8 EXTRA_MPART_TYPE Header has extraneous Content-type:...type= entry > 0.1 HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY BODY: HTML has "tbody" tag > 1.0 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28 BODY:

Re[3]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Wayne, Pro bono, here's the way to get SmarterMail to bypass SpamAssassin for authenticated users. BACKGROUND after playing around with SM for a few minutes -- Like many/most MTAs, SM writes two spool files for every e-mail. One is the message header/body, the other is the message

Re[2]: SPAM: Re: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I usually don't top quote, but folks, this is a troll.. No, it's not. Difficult to distinguish between people totally out of their depth and people here to cause harm. Wayne came to get help with what is a totally foreign system (as he is a hardware repair guy) and was promptly gi

Re: SPAM: Re: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Craig Morrison
t may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. ---- Subject: Re: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting From: "WFGB Team" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:22:07 -0400 (

SPAM: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
n attempting to join.  It kept telling me communication error so I figured I would wait until later to see if it was an issue on my end or on their end.   Wayne     ---Original Message---   From: Sanford Whiteman Date: 06/03/06 20:09:26 To: WFGB Team; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subjec

SPAM: Re: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
n attempting to join.  It kept telling me communication error so I figured I would wait until later to see if it was an issue on my end or on their end.   Wayne     ---Original Message---   From: Sanford Whiteman Date: 06/03/06 20:09:26 To: WFGB Team; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subjec

Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I have talked to the SM tech support and have searched through their > forum but they believe this is SA issue. P.S. You didn't start *a new thread* on their forum, which is as much community-supported as vendor-supported. This is not being thorough, for what seems like an urgent issue. --Sa

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
13:47:18 To: WFGB Team; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   > I have talked to the SM tech support and have searched through their > forum but they believe this is SA issue.   It  is  and  it  isn't.  The fact that they don't

Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> If SMFilter adds its own headers, couldn't you just write a custom > rule for SA that gives any message with those headers a negative > score? SMFilter doesn't add anything; SM does add an "authenticated" header. But rather than plunge Wayne into SA rules -- which are still the wrong

Re[2]: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I have talked to the SM tech support and have searched through their > forum but they believe this is SA issue. It is and it isn't. The fact that they don't have a simple way of skipping their external test (and they have had many, many bugs over the past few years relating to incom

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
ssage---   From: Stephen Sloan Date: 06/03/06 13:20:48 To: WFGB Team Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   If SMFilter adds its own headers, couldn't you just write a custom rule for SA that gives any message with those headers a nega

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Stephen Sloan
t: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting Wow Thanks Sandy, I have talked to the SM tech support and have searched through their forum but they believe this is SA issue. That makes a lot of sense. Yes, I am familiar with writing batch files. I am not a god at writing them but I can rea

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
org Subject: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   > We already have SA setup and working with Smartermail.   Well, not really. I'd say part and parcel of any SA-MTA integration is finding  a way to whitelist messages _before SA is launched_, thus (a) saving   you   SA's  CPU  a

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> We already have SA setup and working with Smartermail. Well, not really. I'd say part and parcel of any SA-MTA integration is finding a way to whitelist messages _before SA is launched_, thus (a) saving you SA's CPU and disk time (esp. since you're using process-based spamassassin a

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread spectacularstuff
LMAO ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Now that's funny! Hey, no monkeying around... here. (|(ô)Y(ô)|) <~~~ You like my self portrait? o (-) v Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread WFGB Team
Wayne    ---Original Message---   From: Jo Date: 06/03/06 03:01:36 To: spectacularstuff Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting   spectacularstuff wrote: > We already have SA setup and working with Smartermail. We would like > to hire some

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread Jo
elist Froms and Trusted Networks. I still cannot get rid of SA reporting that we do not have that and tacking on 2.6 points onto our emails because of it. View this message in context: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-03 Thread jdow
told you. No, we do not need onsite service for this. You can do it remotely. No, you are not approved for that. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t17 26230.html#a4690812 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 6/3/2006 2:39 AM, spectacularstuff wrote: Hi again Daryl, I just need to know what you are asking to fix it. You know more than anyone what is going on with it. I can bring your bid back to corporate on Monday. Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if I was going to hear from you. :) I'd

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230.html#a4691040 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.

RE: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
ttp://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230.html#a4691004 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 6/2/2006 11:44 PM, spectacularstuff wrote: We already have SA setup and working with Smartermail. We would like to hire someone that is familiar with SpamAssassin and a Windows 2003 server system in order to come set this thing up so that our own emails are not being detected as SPAM. Is any

RE: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread Greg Allen
, 2006 1:43 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting > > > > If you are going to make remarks, please state all of the facts, > > 1. We do not require onsite service. > 2. Guarantees are accepted. > 3. Trying to j

RE: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
that back to corporate, they will tell me the same thing I told you. No, we do not need onsite service for this. You can do it remotely. No, you are not approved for that. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230.html#a4690812

RE: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread Greg Allen
-- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230.html #a4690717 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
ow them to come through. That can be cumbersome however. I would much rather fine someone to hire at a reasonable cost to come in and fix the errors that are making SA detect our own emails as SPAM. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troub

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread jdow
ng on 2.6 points onto our emails because of it. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726230.html#a4690327 Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
be there and some of the things that you mentioned. Daryl has also mentioned some other things to me as well, once again, greek but I am sure they will be helpful in completing the setup. Wayne -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hiring-for-Spam-Assassin-Troubleshooting-t1726

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread List Mail User
You have a bunch of problems; You have no PTR record for your MXs except to the dead end of worldfamousgiftbaskets.net - That domain has bogus Whois/registration data (i.e. "Not Given" is invalid). Also that domain has no 'A' or 'MX' records. Your NS records in the TLD zone files don't m

Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread spectacularstuff
usted Networks. I still cannot get rid of SA reporting that we do not have that and tacking on 2.6 points onto our emails because of it. View this message in context: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.