Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Nsubuga Ronald Tash
On Friday 13 January 2006 01:25, Loren Wilton wrote: > Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more > of a bother. > Trust me going to 3.1.0 should so cool. :-) > Loren -- --- Ronnie Tash Everything can be achieved as long you can do what it t

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
ssassin" and "spamd" files floating around in various /usr/bin directories. (I'd look in /usr/local/bin, for example.) {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Robert Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Matt Kettler'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate > to feed it emails I think is ham or spam. Personally I violently detest "starter" bayes databases, and feel that in t

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
obert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the > 3.0.5 one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no > errors. It still shows 3.0.5 in the l

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Please don't top-post, it ruins the formatting and flow of the thread!) Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
y, January 12, 2006 3:30 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the > 3.0.5 one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no > err

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the 3.0.5 > one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no errors. It still > shows 3.0.5 in the logs but not in the email headers. Any idea where to look > to see what Im pumping into spamc? I a

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more of a bother. Loren

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Jan 12 15:01:35 milkyway spamd[17235]: Can't write to PID file: Too many > levels of symbolic links > > I look in the directory for the pid file and its highlighted red, so now the > link is not working? And it still shows as 3.0.1 in the header of emails. Did you mean t

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Bartlett wrote: Hello, Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email heade

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
day, January 12, 2006 3:20 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Robert Bartlett wrote: >> Since finding out the trusted_network i

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
-scanner on Fedora core 2. Robert -Original Message- From: Robert Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:04 PM To: 'Matt Kettler' Cc: 'users@spamassassin.apache.org' Subject: RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Looks like it was erroring out tryi

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Bartlett wrote: Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes turned off. My question is does SA bene

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > I start SA by using service spamassassin start which is a file that pipes > stuff to spamc. Erm.. No. service spamassassin starts up spamd. Nothing else. Period. I assume you separately pump things into spamc? Where?

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
w the link is not working? And it still shows as 3.0.1 in the header of emails. Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:42 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes R

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
I start SA by using service spamassassin start which is a file that pipes stuff to spamc. Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:42 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Hello, > Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still > shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually > remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email > headers? No, there shouldn't be. SA ad

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
, still shows 3.0.1. Or does it really matter? I just want to make sure 3.0.5 is running. Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:16 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Need to upgrade heh? I installed it from source and am very weary of doing > any updates as it's a "production" server. But I guess I don't have a > chance. Any documents out there you suggest reading on steps to upgrade it? > Being a production box, I'd suggest doing an

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
ttler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:04 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Robert Bartlett wrote: > Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my > local.cf setup. Right now

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:51 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > Jim Knuth wrote: >> Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), >> >> >Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham >learning threshold. The default of 0.5 >>

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Jim Knuth wrote: > Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > > Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham learning threshold. The default of 0.5 > > > I see as default 0.1 Yeah, my bad. I thought it was 0.5, but it's not that

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), >>>Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham >>>learning threshold. The default of 0.5 I see as default 0.1 >> >> how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V >> 3.1.0 > See

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Craig McLean wrote: > Jim Knuth wrote: > [snip] > >>>how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V >>>3.1.0 > > > http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning_options > > Specifically, bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam and > bayes_au

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Jim Knuth wrote: > Heute (12.01.2006/20:04 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > > > >>The AWL can be poisoned by a slightly clever spammer, but at best this gets >>them >>a "half off your score" for the real spam. For this reason, I keep it >>disabled. > > >>Bayes autolearning ca

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Knuth wrote: [snip] > > how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V > 3.1.0 http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning_options Specifically, bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam and

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:04 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > The AWL can be poisoned by a slightly clever spammer, but at best this gets > them > a "half off your score" for the real spam. For this reason, I keep it > disabled. > Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd sugge

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my > local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of > course I would clear out AWL and bayes and sta

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of You are in opinion territory. Some people like AWL and some don't much care for it. I personally have it turned off, and don't feel any lack

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Bartlett wrote: > Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my > local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of >

AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of course I would clear out AWL and bayes and start from scratch if I did. But w