Re: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread John Rudd
Christopher Martin wrote: The convention of assuming that the non country coded domains are US domains is simply a result of American hubris. Your statement is simply the result of historical ignorance on your part. The fact is, non-country coded domains were created when the internet was st

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, October 16, 2006 05:23, Billy Huddleston wrote: > Won't work for my use.. Running SA for ISP.. Way too many people.. Way too > much volume.. People upset at the time delays already.. which ar under 2 - > 10 minutes.. Go Figure. same people use upto 2 - 10 minutes to delete spam, Go Figu

Re: Any suggestions for 'postmaster' spams?

2006-10-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, October 16, 2006 00:16, Brian S. Meehan wrote: > It appears that my email address is now being used as a from address in > many spam emails to many addresses. Over the past week, I have gotten 150+ > "postmaster: mail delivery failure" -each day-. is it with enveloppe from [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Bookworm
Christopher Martin wrote: And, lastly, as much as US citizens hate to hear it, .org is NOT a US domain, .org.us is. The .com, .org, etc domains are international domains. The convention of assuming that the non country coded domains are US domains is simply a result of American hubris. It would a

Re: Should I upgrade to 3.1.6?

2006-10-15 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* On 15/10/06 21:11 -0800, John Andersen wrote: | On Sunday 15 October 2006 19:08, John Thompson wrote: | | > If you have 3.1.5 working well I wouldn't bother. Besides, 3.1.7 is out | > already to address some 3.1.6 "oops" issues, but it hasn't made it into | > the FreeBSD ports tree yet. | | Wh

RE: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Christopher Martin
Really, the idea that a US courts can order an international organisation, like InterNIC (that's the Inter- bit of InterNIC), to deregister a domain is farcical. The only pressure the US courts can place on InterNIC is "Do what we say or you get shut down". Well, go ahead. Somehow I think that the

Re: Should I upgrade to 3.1.6?

2006-10-15 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 15 October 2006 19:08, John Thompson wrote: > If you have 3.1.5 working well I wouldn't bother. Besides, 3.1.7 is out > already to address some 3.1.6 "oops" issues, but it hasn't made it into > the FreeBSD ports tree yet. Why does it have to be in the ports tree? Does the CPAN version

Re: Increase in Spam

2006-10-15 Thread John Thompson
On 2006-10-15, Steve Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, this sounds spectacular. One question. Is there a port on > Freebsd for this? I don't see one offhand. If there is, then that would > assume that all the other necessary ports are present as well. If not, > it'll be a roya

Re: Should I upgrade to 3.1.6?

2006-10-15 Thread John Thompson
On 2006-10-15, Steve Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just looked over the bug fix list for 3.1.6 and it doesn't seem > like anything *major* that would suggest that I should make the leap. I'm > right now running 3.1.5 on my box. Is there other improvements, such as > rules and the

Re: Any suggestions for 'postmaster' spams?

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
Not much you can do about it other than find a shotgun, go find the owner of the botnet sending the spam and the spammer generating them, and shot the both of them in the groin. (That is to say, I know how frustrating being on the incoming for a joejob can be. You could also send email to the post

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Billy Huddleston
Won't work for my use.. Running SA for ISP.. Way too many people.. Way too much volume.. People upset at the time delays already.. which ar under 2 - 10 minutes.. Go Figure. - Original Message - From: "John Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:59 PM S

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread John Thompson
On 2006-10-15, Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Billy Huddleston wrote: >> >> Someone want to explain Greylisting? > It delays any email for up to 45 mins. > If the sender is running a REAL server[sic] like aol or yahoo, it will > retry it. > > Ok if you don't mind waiting a log ti

Any suggestions for 'postmaster' spams?

2006-10-15 Thread Brian S. Meehan
It appears that my email address is now being used as a from address in many spam emails to many addresses. Over the past week, I have gotten 150+ "postmaster: mail delivery failure" -each day-. Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? They're all semi-standard 'delivery failure' or 'co

Re: Increase in Spam

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
As beta it works very well. No crashes etc. It needs fine tuning to make it more effective, though. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Steve Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh, beta. Hmm, I guess I'm going to have to hold off on installing it then. I can't risk putting betas on a pr

A problem with AWL

2006-10-15 Thread Chuck Payne
Hi, I got a problem with a lot spam coming thru and it looks like the main reason is that AWL is on every test and when that is no there it give the e-mail negative points. How can I turn of AWL?And if I turn it off will effect domain and users on my list that I have that are whitelisted?Payne-

Re: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 23:25 -0700, John Rudd wrote: > Jason Haar wrote: > > I've been waiting for anyone else to bring it up - but no-one has. > > > > If Spamhaus lose this lawsuit (which they are ignoring as they are > > UK-based and this is some judge in Chicago), they may very well lose > > the

Re: Increase in Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Steve Lake
Oh, beta. Hmm, I guess I'm going to have to hold off on installing it then. I can't risk putting betas on a production server, even if it is a small one. Do you know if they'll make an announcement about it when it's released? At 11:25 PM 10/14/2006 -0700, jdow wrote: It's a few li

Re: Should I upgrade to 3.1.6?

2006-10-15 Thread Steve Lake
Ok, well I only see 3.1.6 on the site. Not unless I'm looking in the wrong place. At 11:26 PM 10/14/2006 -0700, jdow wrote: 3.1.7. Skip 6. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Steve Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 20:14 Subject: Should I upgrade to

Re: Scanning aliases for spam

2006-10-15 Thread Dave Funk
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Michael Fenimore wrote: Hi. I hope this question isn't beyond the scope of this group or hasn't been answered already. I maintain a site that runs Majordomo v. 1.94.5. We have over 55 groups and close to 4800 members. Some of these groups have been in existence for a while a

Re: Does re-learning really work?

2006-10-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Sunday 15 October 2006 21:38, jdow took the opportunity to say: > From: "Magnus Holmgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:55, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to say: > > Indeed, when I did "spamassassin -D bayes < testmessage" the debug output > > reported learning fro

Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Robert Braver
On Sunday, October 15, 2006, 5:21:38 PM, R Lists06 wrote: >> Blame the plaintiffs, blame what some might consider to be >> less-than-stellar legal advice given Spamhaus, but don't blame the >> court for following the law. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Robert Braver RL> Why blame the plaintiffs?

RE: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread R Lists06
> > Someone want to explain Greylisting? Here is an example that references a coupla websites http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/jgreylist.shtml - rh -- Robert - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net

RE: Re[2]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread R Lists06
> > Blame the plaintiffs, blame what some might consider to be > less-than-stellar legal advice given Spamhaus, but don't blame the > court for following the law. > > -- > Best regards, > Robert Braver Why blame the plaintiffs? Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, law is subject to

RE: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 09:23 -0400, Coffey, Neal wrote: > [snip] > SpamHaus took on more responsibility than they'd like to admit. > Unfortunately, this bit of the story isn't widely reported. Here's the > best reference I could find, from the blog of an Illinois lawyer: > > http://blogs.securite

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
From: "Michael Scheidell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Billy Huddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone want to explain Greylisting? It delays any email for up to 45 mins. If the sender is running a REAL server[sic] like aol or yahoo, it will retry it. Ok if you don't mind waiting a log time f

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
(Long answer in email sent direct.) Short answer - SARE. Check the "Other Rules" in the side bar. Fred's rules are generally useful. And Jennifer's are timeless and useful. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What I meant to say is that, eventhough they do

Re: senders domain has MX or not?

2006-10-15 Thread mouss
Suhas (QualiSpace) wrote: Hello, Which rule will help me in checking if senders domain has MX record or not. E.g I am getting email from [EMAIL PROTECTED], then the rule should check whether domain.com has an MX record or not. Fix your DNS: # host -t mx domain.com domain.co

RE: Scanning aliases for spam

2006-10-15 Thread Michael Fenimore
Title: Message Majordomo uses aliases in the /etc/alias file that matches a list of members. Some of these lists have 100s of email addresses. So to answer your question, yes. Local users being those that are users on the network and have FQDN email addresses to this machine. Aliased n

Re: Scanning aliases for spam

2006-10-15 Thread qqqq
>>Hi. I hope this question isn't beyond the scope of this group or hasn't been >>answered already. >>I maintain a site that runs Majordomo v. 1.94.5. We have over 55 groups and >>close to 4800 members. >>Some of these groups have been in existence for a while and have found >>themselves in spamm

RE: Scanning aliases for spam

2006-10-15 Thread Michael Scheidell
Title: Message 'scan' aliases? what do you mean?   is what you meant to say is that spamd only scans LOCAL users and that email to an alias that is NOT LOCAL DESTINATION is not run through SA?    

RE: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: Billy Huddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:58 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages > > > Someone want to explain Greylisting? It delays any email for up to 45 mins. If the

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Simon
What I meant to say is that, eventhough they do get filtered, these spam messages do not get scored high enough to offset threshold so they get marked as spam. I will check on greylisting, but what I was really hoping for is a ruleset which helps score these high enough so they are marked a

Scanning aliases for spam

2006-10-15 Thread Michael Fenimore
Hi. I hope this question isn’t beyond the scope of this group or hasn’t been answered already. I maintain a site that runs Majordomo v. 1.94.5. We have over 55 groups and close to 4800 members. Some of these groups have been in existence for a while and have found themselves in spammer da

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
Google for it. LOTS OF information lives out there to find. - Original Message - From: "Billy Huddleston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:58 Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages Someone want to explain Greylisting? - Original Message - Fr

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks! Here are the latest spam I'm rec

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Billy Huddleston
Someone want to explain Greylisting? - Original Message - From: "Micke Andersson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages Try Greylisting if you are admin on your own e-mail server!

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Micke Andersson
Try Greylisting if you are admin on your own e-mail server! That will filter most of those e-mails. /Micke Simon wrote: Hello, I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in my co

Re: Been getting alot of these lately.. anyone else?

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
From: "Scott Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone figured a good recipe for blocking these type of spam yet? I get 3-5 per day to each user on my mail server. Thanks Original Message Subject: Re: Work has been closed permanently Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:28:50 +0600 Fr

Re: Does re-learning really work?

2006-10-15 Thread jdow
From: "Magnus Holmgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:55, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to say: Indeed, when I did "spamassassin -D bayes < testmessage" the debug output reported learning from a different "@sa_generated" message ID than "sa-learn -D bayes --forget" said

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Billy Huddleston
Yea, I was getting ready to post about the same kind of spam.. Very obnoxious. Anyone ideas? - Original Message - From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: How to filter these spam messages Hello, I'm trying to figure out what to do to f

Re: Been getting alot of these lately.. anyone else?

2006-10-15 Thread Micke Andersson
Scott Friedman wrote: Has anyone figured a good recipe for blocking these type of spam yet? I get 3-5 per day to each user on my mail server. Thanks Original Message Subject: Re: Work has been closed permanently Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:28:50 +0600 From: Leslie

RE: Been getting alot of these lately.. anyone else?

2006-10-15 Thread Gary V
Has anyone figured a good recipe for blocking these type of spam yet? I get 3-5 per day to each user on my mail server. Thanks Original Message Subject:Re: Work has been closed permanently Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:28:50 +0600 From: Leslie Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Does re-learning really work?

2006-10-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:55, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to say: > Indeed, when I did "spamassassin -D bayes < testmessage" the debug output > reported learning from a different "@sa_generated" message ID > than "sa-learn -D bayes --forget" said it was trying to forget (but didn't > fi

Re: How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Samples
I have adopted the following policy, I run commercial free email. If it is unsolicited it gets blacklisted. If they want to run commercials through my email site, I will let them, provided they use a mailing list and the user can opt out. Random, unsolicited emails go in the blacklist. This

How to filter these spam messages

2006-10-15 Thread Simon
Hello, I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks! Here are the latest spam I'm receiving: http://optinet.com/spam.txt

Re[2]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Robert Braver
On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:16:18 AM, hamann.w wrote: hwtod> As a non-american, I can see this as a "vote with your feet" hwtod> case stop buying US products I'm squarely on the side of Spamhaus and sensitive to these issues, as I myself have been sued by a ROKSO-listed spa^H^H^H elect

RE: Fuzzy cannot read this

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Henderson
I got a couple of words at grey level 60-70 gocr -d 2 -l 60 k.gif _ _ _ _ ' '' \code(01d0).h\_ _ L_,^_ _,__'_ h __rrdcms osEsrn a \ _ \ _ 5uppN_Es dppErIm uRE _0 Dr_E* pRDo_cr _ l OOW ff*Tu_dL _No Um _ PuRE, UnnocEssED pRoDun _ ffo FrcLERs _ PRomTEs s*rE, _p7D rRr rw

Re: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 06:16 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > quite frankly: mis-listings occur but if a domain remains blacklisted > after a court case, it > must be for a reason :) > As an email user, I dont want to have to find out that reason :( > As a non-american, I can see

Re: Which release of spamassassin should I use on a Debian sarge system?

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Purves
On Sunday 15 October 2006 04:10, Matthias Haegele wrote: > Chris Purves schrieb: > > I definitely recommend that you upgrade your spamassassin. The version > > currently in volatile is 3.1.5. I can't comment as to the differences > > ^ > it seems that currently "only

RE: Increase in Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Larry Rosenman
Steve Lake wrote: > Oh, this sounds spectacular. One question. Is there a port > on Freebsd for this? I don't see one offhand. If there is, then > that would assume that all the other necessary ports are present as > well. If not, it'll be a royal b trying to get the nix versions

Been getting alot of these lately.. anyone else?

2006-10-15 Thread Scott Friedman
Has anyone figured a good recipe for blocking these type of spam yet? I get 3-5 per day to each user on my mail server. Thanks Original Message Subject:Re: Work has been closed permanently Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:28:50 +0600 From: Leslie Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Fuzzy cannot read this

2006-10-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, October 15, 2006 12:11, Spamassassin List wrote: > gocr -d 2 -l 90 k.gif try gocr -d 2 -l 85 k.gif now DIET commes :-) > D_o nor clIck,)usrrype In your browser hnp ((hoper_ ner or add some words from there -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled spam mails."

Does re-learning really work?

2006-10-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
I'm worried. Whenever I feed a message with "autolearn=spam" or "autolearn=ham" to sa-learn --forget, I get "Forgot tokens from 0 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)" back. That's bad, because it means that the net effect of re-learning a spam incorrectly learnt as ham is one spam occurrence and

Re: Which release of spamassassin should I use on a Debian sarge system?

2006-10-15 Thread Matthias Haegele
Chris Purves schrieb: On October 13, 2006 06:42 am, Bart Veltman wrote: Currently I am using spamassassin version 3.0.3 on a Debian 3.1 sarge (stable release) linux system. According to Debian this version is stable but is more than a year old. Which version should I use, or must I use, to main