Re: should I upgrade?

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> to be pretty recent. Or are they saying that both ham and spam collected > should be from the same time period. If so, do you know what the maximum > time discrepancy could be? Should I worry about it at all? Spam needs to be recent. Ham should be recent if convenient. But ham usually doesn't

Re: Bugzilla dead?

2006-04-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
Yes, there was a MySQL issue with the bugs table. I think I fixed it and BZ seems to be back up and running now. :) On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:17:18PM -0700, jdow wrote: > Software error: > DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Can't open file: 'bugs.MYI'. (errno: 145) > [for Statement "SELECT bug_id F

Bugzilla dead?

2006-04-11 Thread jdow
Software error: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Can't open file: 'bugs.MYI'. (errno: 145) [for Statement "SELECT bug_id FROM bugs WHERE bug_id = 3838"] at Bugzilla/DB.pm line 62 Bugzilla::DB::SendSQL('SELECT bug_id FROM bugs WHERE bug_id = 3838') called at CGI.pl line 171 main::Validate

Re: sa missed to scan some of email

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
martin wrote: > Matt Kettler comcast.net> writes: > > >> martin wrote: >> >>> using spamassassin-3.0.4-2, spamass-milter-0.3.0, clamav-0.88, >>> clamav-milter-0.88, sendmail-8.13.1 under FC3. All parts seem work fine, but >>> found some mails had dropped to mbox directly and seem not sca

Re: sa missed to scan some of email

2006-04-11 Thread martin
Matt Kettler comcast.net> writes: > > martin wrote: > > using spamassassin-3.0.4-2, spamass-milter-0.3.0, clamav-0.88, > > clamav-milter-0.88, sendmail-8.13.1 under FC3. All parts seem work fine, but > > found some mails had dropped to mbox directly and seem not scanned > > by sa (X-Spam head

Re: spamassassin --lint error

2006-04-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:32:33PM -0400, Robert Swan wrote: > I am stumped with a lint error I am getting below, everything is running > ok but when I run -lint I get this error, anybody know what the problem > might be? > > config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: \ As it says, you

spamassassin --lint error

2006-04-11 Thread Robert Swan
All,   I am stumped with a lint error I am getting below, everything is running ok but when I run –lint I get this error, anybody know what the problem might be? I have pasted the debul log entries that are close to it. I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.1 running on Perl version 5.8.6

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Dan
Thanks for the follow-ups guys, its much appreciated. I'm building and testing furiously :) On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:05, Matt Kettler wrote: Dan wrote: Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as exceptions, ma

Re: Web page scraping software

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Kenneth Porter wrote: > On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:19 PM -0700 List Mail User > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is anyone here familiar with the web page email address scraping >> software sold at: http://newsman.asp.be/featuresu.jsp ? > >> From that page: > >> NewsMan Pro sends one messag

Re: Web page scraping software

2006-04-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:19 PM -0700 List Mail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone here familiar with the web page email address scraping software sold at: http://newsman.asp.be/featuresu.jsp ? From that page: NewsMan Pro sends one message per recipient and shows the mem

RE: greetpause was Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:37 PM -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. Spammers have access to all the free CPU bandwidth and processing time they can steal - legitimate MTAs are limited to a budget. Any anti-spam solution that simply rewards CPU and bandwidth spent* is playing into the hand

Web page scraping software

2006-04-11 Thread List Mail User
Hi, Is anyone here familiar with the web page email address scraping software sold at: http://newsman.asp.be/featuresu.jsp ? I only found this because one of their programmers, subscribed to this list (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), is running an "out-of-office" auto-responder a

RE: bayes db issue

2006-04-11 Thread Gary V
I recently switched to using mysql bayes. I am getting a [1135] dbg: bayes: unable to initialize database for root user, aborting! When I do spamassassin -d --lint any idea what I need to change? Best regards, JD Smith You possibly have not learned a message as root yet. As root, try this:

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Mark Martinec
On Tuesday April 11 2006 23:17, Kelson wrote: > mouss wrote: > > - multiple "internal" hops at either sender or receiver (I have N > > Received headers added by my own MTA. and for mail fetched from an MSP, > > there are still more). > > Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of I

Re: bayes db issue

2006-04-11 Thread Michael Parker
JD Smith wrote: > I recently switched to using mysql bayes. I am getting a [1135] dbg: > bayes: unable to initialize database for root user, aborting! When I do > spamassassin -d --lint any idea what I need to change? > Its kind of a bad warning message. Bayes will not attempt to initialize

Re: Spam and the Internet [Was: xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
mouss wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> >> Why anyone in Guatemala thinks I'll visit their store to spend "Q. 22" >> on a >> patio log fake fire log or "Q. 85" on a generic brand weed and feed >> fertilizer >> is beyond me. >> > > dunno, but I can tell you that the net if full of people who love me

Re: bayes db issue

2006-04-11 Thread Dhawal Doshy
JD Smith writes: I recently switched to using mysql bayes. I am getting a [1135] dbg: bayes: unable to initialize database for root user, aborting! When I do spamassassin -d --lint any idea what I need to change? Try a "select id,username,spam_count,ham_count from bayes_vars" on your bate

RE: SpamAssassin Woes

2006-04-11 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 08:13 -0500, JD Smith wrote: > Does amavisd-new happen to have a pre-built front-end similar to > MailWatch? If not then it's no use to me as I don't have time to build > one from scratch, especially not after the time I've already spent > customizing MailWatch. Do you mean

Spam and the Internet [Was: xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler wrote: There's only one spammer that's done this to me. There's some group of stores in Guatemala that sends me high-res scans of their newspaper. Consejeros en Finanzas Empresariales, some kind of bank La Cuacao - some kind of electronics shop? or an eye doctor? cefesa hardware -

bayes db issue

2006-04-11 Thread JD Smith
I recently switched to using mysql bayes. I am getting a [1135] dbg: bayes: unable to initialize database for root user, aborting! When I do spamassassin -d --lint any idea what I need to change? Best regards, JD Smith

RE: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kelson wrote: > Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of IP hops > between the sending server and the receiving server -- in other > words, how many lines you'd see if you were on the receiving server > and ran traceroute to the sending MTA. Ah... that makes much more sense :) --

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Mathias Homann
Am Dienstag, 11. April 2006 22:28 schrieb mouss: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > mouss wrote: > >> I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops > >> (the sending MTA and the receiving MTA). > > > > That would be one hop. > > depends on how you count: > > MUA -> my MTA1 -> y

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Kelson
mouss wrote: - multiple "internal" hops at either sender or receiver (I have N Received headers added by my own MTA. and for mail fetched from an MSP, there are still more). Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of IP hops between the sending server and the receiving server -

RE: greetpause was Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
mouss wrote: > so greetpause will certainly stop some ratware spam, but is not a > "full" solution. Agreed. Spammers have access to all the free CPU bandwidth and processing time they can steal - legitimate MTAs are limited to a budget. Any anti-spam solution that simply rewards CPU and bandwi

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss wrote: I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops (the sending MTA and the receiving MTA). That would be one hop. depends on how you count: MUA -> my MTA1 -> your MTA -> your mailbox that's two MTAs, so that's two hops. I prefe

Re: greetpause was Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
Mike Jackson wrote: You can also impose this cost on spammers by enabling the GreetPause feature in the more recent versions of sendmail. This tells sendmail not to answer right away when receiving a connection, and to drop the connection if anything is received before the greeting is sent out. T

Re: greetpause was Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Mike Jackson
You can also impose this cost on spammers by enabling the GreetPause feature in the more recent versions of sendmail. This tells sendmail not to answer right away when receiving a connection, and to drop the connection if anything is received before the greeting is sent out. This punishes "slammer

greetpause was Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Kenneth Porter wrote: > You can also impose this cost on spammers by enabling the GreetPause > feature in the more recent versions of sendmail. This tells sendmail not > to answer right away when receiving a connection, and to drop the > connection if anything is received before the greeting is se

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:14 PM -0400 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've not seen it with dummy text, but I have seen the large image spam. However, it's very rare. The problem being that if you're a large-volume spammer, large messages take a longer time to send, and thus reduce y

RE: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
mouss wrote: > I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops (the > sending MTA and the receiving MTA). That would be one hop.

relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
Mark Martinec wrote: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/fig1.gif Spam score vs. IP distance in hops (our server is in European academic network Geant) This one is amazing. there seems to be an empty space (most mail has nhops <= 10 or => 14). I would "guess" that most ham wih large

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Mark Martinec
mouss wrote: > since most filters skip large messages, it may be tempting for spammers > to send large messagess: I did some statistical analysis few weeks ago with SA 3.1.1 (SA called from amavisd-new, but that is beside the point). Please see: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/fig4.gif

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 02:46:41PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: >> Of course, this can't work if you're using any kind of encapsulation options >> in >> report_safe, but since MailScanner does all the markup itself, it doesn't >> hurt >> it to send Mail::SpamAssassin a trun

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 02:46:41PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > Of course, this can't work if you're using any kind of encapsulation options > in > report_safe, but since MailScanner does all the markup itself, it doesn't hurt > it to send Mail::SpamAssassin a truncated version. Converting this to

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 02:14:26PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: >> Well, SA automatically ignores attachments in recent versions. However, >> hash-based plugins like razor, dcc, and pyzor work best when seeing all the >> attachments. > > For completeness, the first sentence

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 02:14:26PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > Well, SA automatically ignores attachments in recent versions. However, > hash-based plugins like razor, dcc, and pyzor work best when seeing all the > attachments. For completeness, the first sentence isn't exactly true. SA "automati

Re: xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
mouss wrote: > since most filters skip large messages, it may be tempting for spammers > to send large messagess: > > - using a large but "invisible" part (either by using mime and putting a > large text part in an alternative mime, or using "invisible" chars > before their own text). > > - using

Flag corressponding to x-spam-*

2006-04-11 Thread sakceesakcee
I am very new to qmail and spamassassin We have qmail with spamassassin installed, the spaassassin adds the following flags to header X-Spam-Score: X-Spam-Checker-Version: X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status Now in the UI of email client , we would like to mark a message as Not Spam, and change the lo

xxxl spam

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
since most filters skip large messages, it may be tempting for spammers to send large messagess: - using a large but "invisible" part (either by using mime and putting a large text part in an alternative mime, or using "invisible" chars before their own text). - using a large image - large

Re: Internal email marked as spam...

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
jdow wrote: That's true, but you'd still be over 5.0 even without it. Why did you modify it? Bayes zero should typically have a fairly hefty negative score. It seems that the art of "error and ignore" has replaced the art of trial and error. Given the OP From display, we can only say: s

Re: installing custom rulesets from rulesemporium

2006-04-11 Thread Sergei Gerasenko
> antidrug.cf is unnecessary on SA 3.0.0 and higher. The rules have > been incorporated into the default set. Your "drug" message probably > doesn't trigger any of the rules. Take a look at the file and see > what it is looking for. Cool! Thank you!

RE: "Rawbody" fooled by line breaks?

2006-04-11 Thread Eric Hart
>> The problem seems to be that rawbody looks at the message "one line at >> a time". I won't bore you with every way I've tried to create a rule >> that spans this line break, but none of them have worked. >> >> Has anyone enountered/resolved this issue? >stemming from >http://issues.ap

Re: SpamAssassin Woes

2006-04-11 Thread Stuart Johnston
Although I am not specifically familiar with MailWatch, there is Maia Mailguard which uses a customized version of amavisd-new 2.2.0. There is also MailZu but it only does quarantine management. http://www.maiamailguard.com/ http://www.mailzu.org/ JD Smith wrote: Does amavisd-new happen to

Re: Sending spam with Mailman

2006-04-11 Thread Mike Jackson
I suppose I shouldn't be shocked by this but it surprised me to receive some spam sent with Mailman. I have a folder for catching all mailing list mail that doesn't yet have its own procmail rule. The catch-all procmail rule looks for anything with a List-Id header and dumps it in ~/mail/Lists/Un

Re: installing custom rulesets from rulesemporium

2006-04-11 Thread Rick Macdougall
Sergei Gerasenko wrote: I just downloaded antidrug.cf from drugemporium and dropped it in the rules directory. spamassassin -D says that it's reading it but running a "drug" message through doesn't trigger the rules. Should I rename antidrug.cf to say 35_antidrug.cf or it doesn't matter? Is there

Re: sa-update fails with "SHA1 verification failed"

2006-04-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 10:15:45AM -0400, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > # sa-update > error: can't verify SHA1 signature > channel: SHA1 verification failed, channel failed > > At this point the > /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001001/updates_spamassassin_org directory was > empty, but SpamAssassin was st

RE: installing custom rulesets from rulesemporium

2006-04-11 Thread Bowie Bailey
Sergei Gerasenko wrote: > I just downloaded antidrug.cf from drugemporium and dropped it in the > rules directory. spamassassin -D says that it's reading it but > running a "drug" message through doesn't trigger the rules. Should I > rename antidrug.cf to say 35_antidrug.cf or it doesn't matter? Is

installing custom rulesets from rulesemporium

2006-04-11 Thread Sergei Gerasenko
I just downloaded antidrug.cf from drugemporium and dropped it in the rules directory. spamassassin -D says that it's reading it but running a "drug" message through doesn't trigger the rules. Should I rename antidrug.cf to say 35_antidrug.cf or it doesn't matter? Is there anyway I can test the rul

Re: sa-blacklist

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Having process load issues, I found that removing my two sa-blacklist > rules took care of it. If fact, very good processing times now that > they're gone. My question is, what I'm I missing? Spam filtering is > doing a fine job since changes applied 24 hours ago. > s

RE: "Rawbody" fooled by line breaks?

2006-04-11 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> The problem seems to be that rawbody looks at the message "one > line at a time". I won't bore you with every way I've > tried to create a rule that spans this line break, but > none of them have worked. > > Has anyone enountered/resolved this issue? stemming from http://issues.apac

"Rawbody" fooled by line breaks?

2006-04-11 Thread Eric Hart
Hi folks,   Let's say that I want to recognize this HTML tag in a rawbody rule: It's easy to write a rule that recognizes this.  I use "rawbody" because "full" and "body" ignore html.   Now suppose  that there's a line break in the html tag.  This is legal, and is still recognized by mai

sa-blacklist

2006-04-11 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
Having process load issues, I found that removing my two sa-blacklist rules took care of it. If fact, very good processing times now that they're gone. My question is, what I'm I missing? Spam filtering is doing a fine job since changes applied 24 hours ago. I run Postfix 2.2.8 with amavisd-new 2.

sa-update fails with "SHA1 verification failed"

2006-04-11 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
I upgraded a Solaris 9 system from v3.1.0 to v3.1.1. The upgrade went fine, but when I attempted to run sa-update, I got the following error: # sa-update sa-update: importing default keyring to '/etc/mail/spamassassin//sa-update-keys'... error: can't verify SHA1 signature channel: SHA1 verificati

Re: should I upgrade?

2006-04-11 Thread Sergei Gerasenko
Hi Richard, Thank you for a thoughtful reply. I'm ok with collecting spam. The only thing is that I read in the docs somewhere that this collected spam has to be pretty recent. Or are they saying that both ham and spam collected should be from the same time period. If so, do you know what the maxi

Re: sa missed to scan some of email

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
martin wrote: > using spamassassin-3.0.4-2, spamass-milter-0.3.0, clamav-0.88, > clamav-milter-0.88, sendmail-8.13.1 under FC3. All parts seem work fine, but > found some mails had dropped to mbox directly and seem not scanned by sa > (X-Spam > header had not added, spam.log can't found related

RE: SpamAssassin Woes

2006-04-11 Thread JD Smith
Does amavisd-new happen to have a pre-built front-end similar to MailWatch? If not then it's no use to me as I don't have time to build one from scratch, especially not after the time I've already spent customizing MailWatch. Best regards, JD Smith -Original Message- From: Sipos Gabor [

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: > Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): > > I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as > exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark > messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? > > I realize this is

Re: Trusted Hosts

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm wanting to test SA's SPF implementation here by running a test > message through a "sandbox" machine that > is configured like our production environment. > > Our domain has an SPF record, and I've made sure that it's reflected > on our internal network. I've teste

Re: Internal email marked as spam...

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > > >> Screaming Eagle wrote: >> >> >> >>> All, >>> Emailing with outlook and from internal network is marked as spam: >>> pts rule name description >>> -- >>>

RE: sa-update problem

2006-04-11 Thread Martin Hepworth
Max You're right - sometimes I'm such an idiot.. I did as you suggested and it now works fine (once I'd deleted the sa-update-keys directory) -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 > -Original Message- > From: Max Matslofva [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: sa-update problem

2006-04-11 Thread Max Matslofva
Hi Martin I think you are missing gpg If you try this.. delete the directory /etc/mail/spamassassin/sa-update-keys and run sa-update -D /Max Martin Hepworth skrev: Hi all Running SA 3.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.10 (installed via CPAN) When I run "sa-update" it's trying to make the directory /etc/mai

Trusted Hosts

2006-04-11 Thread leonard . gray
I'm wanting to test SA's SPF implementation here by running a test message through a "sandbox" machine that is configured like our production environment. Our domain has an SPF record, and I've made sure that it's reflected on our internal network.  I've tested SPF as a standalone implementation,

sa-update problem

2006-04-11 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi all Running SA 3.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.10 (installed via CPAN) When I run "sa-update" it's trying to make the directory /etc/mail/spamassassin/sa-update-keys, but on the second time around this fails as it's already there.. Am I missing a stage where I have to download the keys first or am I just

Re: should I upgrade?

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> I tried sa-learn, but don't you need a sizable spam collection for it to > work? The docs say that you need to collect about a thousand of ham and > spam messages before the training starts to work. That sounds like a > pain in the neck. Or am I missing something? By default you need 200 hams an

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as > exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark > messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? > > I realize this is unorthodox, but I would appreciate any suggestions. >From experience

Re: should I upgrade?

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> I installed SpamAssassin today for the first time and "The Ultimate > Online Pharmaceutical" (seems like a LOT of people get this one in If you don't have any SARE rules you should probably grab a handful. They help with these little nasties. www.rulesemporium.com Loren

Re: Internal email marked as spam...

2006-04-11 Thread jdow
From: "Philip Prindeville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Screaming Eagle wrote: All, Emailing with outlook and from internal network is marked as spam: pts rule name description -- -- -1

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> So you're saying 307 integers and 15 decimals?: 307 total digits if you happen to have the decimal point on the right. The first 15 of those will be non-zero, all the rest will be zero. Or alternately 280+ leading zeros and 15 trailing digits if you go to the right of the decimal point.

RE: SpamAssassin Woes

2006-04-11 Thread Martin Hepworth
Postfix and mailScanner work fine... http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:configuration:mta:pos tfix:politics yes it doesn't use the 'accepted' interface but it works fine and many many people have implemented PF and MS together with no problems. -- Martin Hepworth Snr System

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> The total range for the mantissa of a double-precision float is 52-bits, with 1 > bit for sign. This means that the range between your most significant and least Minor quibble: the number of mantissa bits stored is 52, but as the mantissa is assumed to be normalized except in some very special c

Re: SpamAssassin Woes

2006-04-11 Thread Sipos Gabor
Hello, If you are using postfix, don't use mailscanner, it uses a non-documented (and therefore not supported) access to the postfix queue files. Use amavisd-new instead to integrate postfix and spamassassin. Anyways, the default rules in spamassassin will NOT get you anything much than 70% in c

sa missed to scan some of email

2006-04-11 Thread martin
using spamassassin-3.0.4-2, spamass-milter-0.3.0, clamav-0.88, clamav-milter-0.88, sendmail-8.13.1 under FC3. All parts seem work fine, but found some mails had dropped to mbox directly and seem not scanned by sa (X-Spam header had not added, spam.log can't found related message). The system (P4,