Research wanted: age of spam gang URI domains

2005-04-21 Thread Jeff Chan
Does anyone have research or references for the age profiles of domains appearing in the URIs of spam gang (i.e. Ralsky, Lindsay, Richter, etc.) spams? In other words, how old are the domains of sites being spamvertised *by spam gangs*? (By age I mean how long ago they were (most recently) create

Re: Meta Rule Evaluation Order?

2005-04-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:05:40PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > >body __sub_meta_a some-not-costly-eval > >body __sub_meta_b a-costly-eval > >meta meta_rule (__sub_meta_a && __sub_meta_b) > > > >under this example, which of the following happen? > > > >a) __sub_meta_a AND __sub_meta_b are evalu

Re: Meta Rule Evaluation Order?

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Rocky Olsen wrote: >I'm wondering what the order of evaluation is for the following scenario. > >body __sub_meta_a some-not-costly-eval >body __sub_meta_b a-costly-eval > >meta meta_rule (__sub_meta_a && __sub_meta_b) > > >under this example, which of the following happen? > >a) __sub_meta_a A

Meta Rule Evaluation Order?

2005-04-21 Thread Rocky Olsen
I'm wondering what the order of evaluation is for the following scenario. body __sub_meta_a some-not-costly-eval body __sub_meta_b a-costly-eval meta meta_rule (__sub_meta_a && __sub_meta_b) under this example, which of the following happen? a) __sub_meta_a AND __sub_meta_b are evaluated f

Re: how to filter on invalid local users

2005-04-21 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Thursday 21 April 2005 22:45), Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 03:37:02PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: > > 1) Don't accept mail for invalid users. > > Well, I often tought about not accepting Mail *FROM* locally-illegal-Users. > The 'To' is done by the MTA,

Re: how to filter on invalid local users

2005-04-21 Thread Brian R. Jones
Michael Parker wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:38:01PM -0700, Brian R. Jones wrote: I'm looking a way to create a rule that will allow me to filter on [EMAIL PROTECTED] where invalid_user is anything that isn't in my alias or password files. At the moment the only way I can think of doing thi

Re: how to filter on invalid local users

2005-04-21 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 03:37:02PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: > 1) Don't accept mail for invalid users. Well, I often tought about not accepting Mail *FROM* locally-illegal-Users. The 'To' is done by the MTA, but the 'From' would be nice also. It would drop all the spams faking random local User

Re: how to filter on invalid local users

2005-04-21 Thread Michael Parker
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:38:01PM -0700, Brian R. Jones wrote: > I'm looking a way to create a rule that will allow me to filter on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] where invalid_user is anything that isn't in > my alias or password files. At the moment the only way I can think of > doing this is to add an

how to filter on invalid local users

2005-04-21 Thread Brian R. Jones
I'm looking a way to create a rule that will allow me to filter on [EMAIL PROTECTED] where invalid_user is anything that isn't in my alias or password files. At the moment the only way I can think of doing this is to add an eval rule to EvalTests.pm, but this is obviously not a preferred meth

Re: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Alex Pleiner
* Francis Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-21 17:21]: > >67.67.32.202www.rulesemporium.com > >in your /etc/hosts file until the server is back up and > >running. > Thanks for that, it works for me. I was having trouble even viewing the > web site with a browser so never got a cha

Re: Problem with Bayes SA/spamass-milter interaction?

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Steven W. Orr wrote: >On Thursday, Apr 21st 2005 at 10:46 -0700, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >=>Steven W. Orr wrote: >=>> I have just recently noticed that I don't seem to have Bayes working >=>> and I don't know why. I'm on Fedora Core 3/sendmail-8.13.1/SA-3.0.2 >=>> and spamass-milter-0.3.0-1.1 >

RE: Problem with Bayes SA/spamass-milter interaction?

2005-04-21 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Thursday, Apr 21st 2005 at 10:46 -0700, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: =>Steven W. Orr wrote: =>> I have just recently noticed that I don't seem to have Bayes working =>> and I don't know why. I'm on Fedora Core 3/sendmail-8.13.1/SA-3.0.2 =>> and spamass-milter-0.3.0-1.1 =>... =>> Any suggestions wou

Re: Bayes issue

2005-04-21 Thread Jay Ehrhart
Thank you, even though over 3,000 emails have gone through I only have: debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 133 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200 that Bayes I am not training Bayes manually so Bayes just hasn't collected enough messages to train on. Thanks - Original Message - From:

Re: Bayes issue

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Jay Ehrhart wrote: >The Bayes score is not being used in the overall spam score. > >My MailScanner/SpamAssassin has been working fine. I wanted to wipe out the >Bayes files and have them recreate and learn again. I did a rm bayes_* and >it removed the files. I restarted MailScanner and the fil

RE: Bayes issue

2005-04-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Jay Ehrhart wrote: > The Bayes score is not being used in the overall spam score. ... > I did a rm bayes_* and it removed the files. > I have had over 3,000 emails through since I did the rm ... > How do I get it to start using the Bayes score again? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesNotWo

Bayes issue

2005-04-21 Thread Jay Ehrhart
The Bayes score is not being used in the overall spam score. My MailScanner/SpamAssassin has been working fine. I wanted to wipe out the Bayes files and have them recreate and learn again. I did a rm bayes_* and it removed the files. I restarted MailScanner and the files were recreated and the

RE: Problem with Bayes SA/spamass-milter interaction?

2005-04-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Steven W. Orr wrote: > I have just recently noticed that I don't seem to have Bayes working > and I don't know why. I'm on Fedora Core 3/sendmail-8.13.1/SA-3.0.2 > and spamass-milter-0.3.0-1.1 ... > Any suggestions would be very welcome. > > TIA http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SiteWideBayesSe

Problem with Bayes SA/spamass-milter interaction?

2005-04-21 Thread Steven W. Orr
I have just recently noticed that I don't seem to have Bayes working and I don't know why. I'm on Fedora Core 3/sendmail-8.13.1/SA-3.0.2 and spamass-milter-0.3.0-1.1 Lots of spam gets caught and properly tagged but none of it is getting any of the BAYES tags. If I save a message after reception

Problem with Bayes SA/spamass-milter interaction?

2005-04-21 Thread Steven W. Orr
I have just recently noticed that I don't seem to have Bayes working and I don't know why. I'm on Fedora Core 3/sendmail-8.13.1/SA-3.0.2 and spamass-milter-0.3.0-1.1 Lots of spam gets caught and properly tagged but none of it is getting any of the BAYES tags. If I save a message after reception

Re: Is there a new source of spam?

2005-04-21 Thread JamesDR
jdow wrote: Has a new source of spam come on line today? My spam count is up at least 33% over typical days last week. This is unreal. (At least SA got 'em all. I'm just surprised at the dramatic increase from about 150 to 170 a day up to about 220 today.) {^_^} Could be your domain is so popular

Re: Which number of children spawn is best?

2005-04-21 Thread JamesDR
Monty Ree wrote: Hello, all. I have operated some mail dedicated server using redhat 9.0. About over 4,000 users use this mail server with pop3. But it is so slow and some spamd seems that spamd can't process well. So I raise the number of children spawn like below. SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -m9 ==> SPAM

Re: amavisd-new

2005-04-21 Thread Alan Munday
Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote the following on 21/04/2005 16:05: The expected results of this, as I say, is that ALL emails will be tagged as spam; will have SA headers inserts; will have a copy placed into the the quarantine folder; and finally will be passed on back to the MTA for delivery. This s

[OT] More mirrors needed for New URIBL lists

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Santerre
We are almost ready to go live with the new lists. However we need more mirrors...err...about 8 more to be safe! Please contact me offlist if you would like to provide a mirror. The more we get , the less traffic for everyone. :) Semi-public Submissions for the black and gray lists are coming soon

RE: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Francis Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:20 AM >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: rulesemporium.com availability > > >Todd Adamson wrote: >> There is apperantly a server problem. The 209.218.125.112 >> server is

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Jeff Chan wrote: >On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 5:12:37 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > >>why would SA >>time it out? The system should use the hostfile in preference to DNS >>(e.g., in nsswitch.conf), but for some bizarre reason this lookup isn't. >> >> > >BIND does the forwarding to rbldnsd. > >

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 10:19 -0500, Stuart Johnston wrote: > Mike Grice wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 04:37 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > > > > This I know (I'm a sysadmin ;-)), what I'm getting at is why would SA > > time it out? The system should use the hostfile in preference to DNS > > (e.g., i

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Stuart Johnston
Mike Grice wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 04:37 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: This I know (I'm a sysadmin ;-)), what I'm getting at is why would SA time it out? The system should use the hostfile in preference to DNS (e.g., in nsswitch.conf), but for some bizarre reason this lookup isn't. SA uses Net::DNS

Re: Spamassassin book

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
SPF -K

Re: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Francis Stevens
Todd Adamson wrote: There is apperantly a server problem. The 209.218.125.112 server is no longer responding to requests or pings. There was a suggestion in the faq on the rulesemporium web site to temporarily place the entry 67.67.32.202www.rulesemporium.com in your /etc/hosts file

Re: amavisd-new

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Alan Munday wrote: Tried posting a variation of this to the amavis list earlier, as I had no response I thought I'd try here. I'm currently configuring my 1st install of amavisd-new, and while I'm setting up and testing I would like to be able to send a copy of all mail that is scanned by SA to

Re: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-21 Thread Vivek Khera
On Apr 15, 2005, at 2:06 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: Wow! 12%! Damn! Thank goodness for those SARE and SURBL guys! ;) If my two inbound servers deliver more than 10% each per day, I'm shocked. Each currently processes about 13-14k message attempts inbound per day. And I've not even implemented an

RE: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Todd Adamson
There is apperantly a server problem. The 209.218.125.112 server is no longer responding to requests or pings. There was a suggestion in the faq on the rulesemporium web site to temporarily place the entry 67.67.32.202www.rulesemporium.com in your /etc/hosts file until the server is

amavisd-new

2005-04-21 Thread Alan Munday
Tried posting a variation of this to the amavis list earlier, as I had no response I thought I'd try here. I'm currently configuring my 1st install of amavisd-new, and while I'm setting up and testing I would like to be able to send a copy of all mail that is scanned by SA to be saved into a local

RE: Spamassassin book

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Alistair McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:25 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Spamassassin book > > >Hello, > >I am the author of a book on SpamAssassin, published by Packt >Publishing. >Sample chapters of the

RE: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Doug Johnson
My RulesDuJour script sometimes will get the first rule but fails on the rest in the list. But the rest of the time I get the following: The following rules had errors: TripWire had an unknown error: --08:05:56-- http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf => `99_FVGT_Tripwi

[Fwd: Re: rulesemporium.com availability]

2005-04-21 Thread Martin Hepworth
Francis Stevens wrote: Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.com still very difficult to connect to? I don't seem to have been able to collect rules for a week or more. FAS From - Thu I think maybe the abuse stopper is a bit enthusiastic. I'm trying to avoid anyone here going to the site but i

Re: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Ed Kasky
At 06:16 AM Thursday, 4/21/2005, you wrote -=> Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.com still very difficult to connect to? I don't seem to have been able to collect rules for a week or more. And I thought it was just me Ed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Randomly Generated Quote (777 of

Re: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Tim Donahue
I'm getting through on one of the IP addresses that DNS returns, but not 209.218.125.112 so I would guess someone is having server problems. Tim Donahue On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 14:16 +0100, Francis Stevens wrote: > Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.com still very difficult to > connect to? I d

Re: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Thursday 21 April 2005 08:34 am, Chris Santerre wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: Francis Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:17 AM > >To: spamassassin-users > >Subject: rulesemporium.com availability > > > > > >Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.

Re: Is there a new source of spam?

2005-04-21 Thread Menno van Bennekom
> Has a new source of spam come on line today? My spam count is up at > least 33% over typical days last week. This is unreal. > The same number here. Yes it could well be that the latest viruses (Worm.Mytob.*) are quite succesful and created new zombies. Some countries seem to send much more spam

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 05:16 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 5:12:37 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > why would SA > > time it out? The system should use the hostfile in preference to DNS > > (e.g., in nsswitch.conf), but for some bizarre reason this lookup isn't. > > BIND does the

Re: Which number of children spawn is best?

2005-04-21 Thread Eugene Kurmanin
Hello, Monty. > Hello, all. > I have operated some mail dedicated server using redhat 9.0. > About over 4,000 users use this mail server with pop3. > But it is so slow and some spamd seems that spamd can't process well. 1. Which MTA do you use? 2. How SpamAssassin is involved in process of scann

RE: rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Francis Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:17 AM >To: spamassassin-users >Subject: rulesemporium.com availability > > >Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.com still very difficult to >connect to? I don't seem to have been able t

rulesemporium.com availability

2005-04-21 Thread Francis Stevens
Is it just me or is www.rulesemporium.com still very difficult to connect to? I don't seem to have been able to collect rules for a week or more. FAS

Re[2]: suggestions on optimizing SA check

2005-04-21 Thread Rich Chiuppi
Hello all, thanks you for your time and suggestions. I have tried the -D which shows a slight delay from Bayes.. I've turn Dspam off an added 2 more amavis servers. In doing this I was able to empty my the queued 2700 emails. Dspam is now back on. I will upgrade razor and will share my results w

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 5:12:37 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > why would SA > time it out? The system should use the hostfile in preference to DNS > (e.g., in nsswitch.conf), but for some bizarre reason this lookup isn't. BIND does the forwarding to rbldnsd. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 04:37 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 4:26:46 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:55 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > >> On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 3:46:35 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > >> >>From /etc/hosts: > >> > 127.0.0.2 dnsbl-so

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 4:26:46 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:55 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: >> On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 3:46:35 AM, Mike Grice wrote: >> >>From /etc/hosts: >> > 127.0.0.2 dnsbl-sorbs-net.dnsbl.plus.net >> >> Use named.conf instead of /etc/hos

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:55 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 3:46:35 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:01 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > > >> Did you remember to forward the queries for your local zones to > >> the rbldnsd server? E.g.: > > > Yeah. All the othe

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 3:46:35 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:01 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: >> Did you remember to forward the queries for your local zones to >> the rbldnsd server? E.g.: > Yeah. All the other zones are working, just not SORBS by the looks of > it, which is

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 03:01 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 2:40:49 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > > I then began to mirror the RBLs that we use (and SURBLS) to speed things > > up, but for some reason I'm now getting an RBL timeout. The way I did > > the RBL mirroring is to run rb

Re: Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, April 21, 2005, 2:40:49 AM, Mike Grice wrote: > I then began to mirror the RBLs that we use (and SURBLS) to speed things > up, but for some reason I'm now getting an RBL timeout. The way I did > the RBL mirroring is to run rbldnsd locally, with zones (e.g., > dnsbl.sorbs.org), and set

New rules, could someone please check?

2005-04-21 Thread Matthew Newton
Hi, Would someone with a decent size corpus please be kind enough to check the following rules for me? I think these are all new ones since last time I asked. I'm interested in the top five, mainly. The entire rule set is at http://www.le.ac.uk/cc/mcn4/spam/uolcc.cf (and includes one or two that

Interesting RBL problem

2005-04-21 Thread Mike Grice
Hi there, I'm trialling SA for use in our customer spamfiltering. I'm concerned about it's speed (due to the amount of mail we handle), so I ran in debug mode. As I suspected, the greatest delay is when the app has to callout to the net, e.g., RBL lookups and the like. I then began to mirror

Spamassassin book

2005-04-21 Thread Alistair McDonald
Hello, I am the author of a book on SpamAssassin, published by Packt Publishing. Sample chapters of the book can be downloaded from http://www.spamassassinbook.com/. I intend to update the book (which already covers SA 3). I wondered if there were any subjects that you (the SA user community) fee

Re: about spoofed email header(Received From field)

2005-04-21 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:51 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Andersen wrote: > > The top most received from usually IS reliable, (assuming you are > > running your own Mail Transfer agent (sendmail or postfix of some > > such). > > If you're running your own MTA, this will have the IP of th

Re: Which number of children spawn is best?

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:44 AM 4/21/2005, Monty Ree wrote: I have operated some mail dedicated server using redhat 9.0. About over 4,000 users use this mail server with pop3. But it is so slow and some spamd seems that spamd can't process well. So I raise the number of children spawn like below. SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -

Re: maybe a beginner's question

2005-04-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:11 PM 4/20/2005, Luca wrote: i am getting tons of mail (spam) addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] into my inbox. there's no cc or bcc headers or any other email address in the message. (my address is NOT in msg) 1. what exactly is happening here, step-by-step? Mail is delivered by the envelope

Which number of children spawn is best?

2005-04-21 Thread Monty Ree
Hello, all. I have operated some mail dedicated server using redhat 9.0. About over 4,000 users use this mail server with pop3. But it is so slow and some spamd seems that spamd can't process well. So I raise the number of children spawn like below. SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -m9 ==> SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c

maybe a beginner's question

2005-04-21 Thread Luca
joined this group today as i wasn't lucky getting help from my ISP, who aired a "cant' do nothing about spam" attitude, want's to keep a zero false positive level so does nothing. my mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am getting tons of mail (spam) addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] into my inbox.

Pyzor not scoring?

2005-04-21 Thread Ed Kasky
All of a sudden I am not getting any pyzor hits scoring. I went from hundreds of spams getting scored based on hits from pyzor check to none at all starting last week. I ran discover and checked to be sure pyzor is functioning properly but am still not getting a positive hit to add to the sco

Re: suggestions on optimizing SA check

2005-04-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:08:24PM -0400, Rich Chiuppi wrote: > I have noticed a 1-3 second pauses during the process of messages at SA check > when tailing the Amavis > log. This has not been the norm. Sounds like network lag/timeouts. I believe someone else suggested it, but run with -D to get