Re: Unsubscribe?

Richard Ozer wrote: Oh good! Can I buy a service contract too? Hopefully it's priced per spam! Jeez, I knew I was forgetting something. :-)

Re: Unsubscribe?

My company is very cheap in the products it buys, some of the commercial products we have are HORRIBLE (read: Microsoft office and alpine view.) However, since they are so cheap, I can offer one commercial product verses an open sourced one, and it will always win. Cheap = good? Not really. Ope

Re: Unsubscribe?

snowjack wrote: I have an anti-spam product I, ah, we, ah, my COMPANY, (yeah, that's the ticket) call "Snowjack Scanner" which is at least as effective as any other... commercial solution. It has a Bayes filter, score averaging by sender, whitelisting capabilities, many effective individual rule

Re: Unsubscribe?

Oh good! Can I buy a service contract too? Hopefully it's priced per spam! RO - Original Message - From: "snowjack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? > William Holman wrote: > > I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills,

Re: Unsubscribe?

William Holman wrote: I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you! I have an anti-spam product I, ah, we, ah, my COMPANY, (yeah, that's the ticket) call "Snowjack Scanner" which is at least as

Re: whitelist_to parametr question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2004 23:44 schrieb Thomas Arend: > Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2004 12:54 schrieb boka: > > Hi ! > > > > I have few users which if the email is spam it has to be delivered to > > theirs mailboxes. > > > > I used "whitelist_to" p

Re: whitelist_to parametr question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2004 12:54 schrieb boka: > Hi ! > > I have few users which if the email is spam it has to be delivered to > theirs mailboxes. > > I used "whitelist_to" parametr but there are some meassages which are > blocked. > > From docs:

Re: [OT] Making two machines talk to one another

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2004 20:43 schrieb email builder: > Hello, > > I am attempting to offload SA to a machine that is not my main MX server. > I have two machines, two NIC cards and a crossover cable, but after that I > get very lost. I believ

Re: Unsubscribe?

> I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use > SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Effective immediately: employees will not be allowed to drink tap water, because it's free. Company policy mandates that only Coca-Cola and other commercially-bottled beverages are permitted.

spamass-milter vs user_prefs

I'm trying to get spamass-milter with user_prefs to work, the only solution what i found yet is to use a global user_prefs with the spamd virtual-config-dir option. Is there a configuration possible which allows individual user_prefs with spamass-milter ? go

RE: Unsubscribe?

Ironically, that's one thing that Joel said in his email (regarding some of the venders using SA). It's got to be said. Dude, tell your management that they are stupid and if they still need help we can offer the clueX4 to assist in their learning... This was just referenced only 7 emails ago.

RE: Unsubscribe?

>-Original Message- >From: shane mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:52 PM >To: Peter P. Benac >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? > > >I know what you mean Pete, > >I work for a public school system, and it is a major fight

Re: Unsubscribe?

Yes... God forbid that you wouldn't have to pay a bill. Those bill payers would be out of work. Be sure to let us all know what company you work for so that we can divest our stock as soon as possible ;-) RO - Original Message - From: "William Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tue

Invalid local.cf options

There was a discussion a little while back (couple weeks at most) where a lot of people were having problems with SA not working properly and the culprit was invalid options in local.cf. Particularly "auto_learn" instead of "bayes_auto_learn". I forget who, but someone asked if there was a pr

Re: Unsubscribe?

I know what you mean Pete, I work for a public school system, and it is a major fight whenever I introduce an OpenSource solution. By using OpenSource solutions, I have provided better solutions to problems, and saved much money. But, it has not been easy, and there have been few, if any tha

Re: Unsubscribe?

Good afternoon, William, On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, William Holman wrote: I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" In all sincerity, why not recommend McAfee SpamKiller? It's commercial, I'm sure it has paid support available, all the things

RE: Unsubscribe?

Happens all the time at all levels of gov't. And maybe worse with DOD stuff. I've worked with small government and DOD contractors. When it comes to Perl v. $30,000 the $30,000 wins. Or MySQL v. Microsofts SQL Server... Microsoft wins. A combination of "not my money", and nobody wanting to put

RE: Unsubscribe?

If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the taxpayers money on something they already have for free. Don't they have a better way of spendi

RE: Unsubscribe?

>Anyone else not surprised, but completely aggravated by this statement? They >are most likely going to go pay for a package that is SA in the background >anyway. >Good luck William! >--Chris Actually SA was the one that has given us more ammo to use open source. Our management saw how good it

Re: Unsubscribe?

Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:08 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Any

RE: Unsubscribe?

>-Original Message- >From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:08 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Unsubscribe? > > >I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use >SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Anyone else

RE: Unsubscribe?

>From the headers of every message sent through the mailing list: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, Decem

Problem with ClamAV plugin.

Hi. I'm running CGPSA 1.4f4 under Communigate 4.2.7 and SpamAssassin 3.0.1. I've installed ClamAV 0.8 and the SpamAssassin ClamAV plugin as described here: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ClamAVPlugin I get the following error in my mail headers: X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to 'local

Unsubscribe?

I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!

RE: OT Boincing Spam

>-Original Message- >From: ChupaCabra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >First he wanted that. I did it but actually kept em all. So then his >partner didn't get an urgent email so it was turned back to >the users to >decide. I get a different kneejerk each week. What fun >dealing with an

[OT] Making two machines talk to one another

Hello, I am attempting to offload SA to a machine that is not my main MX server. I have two machines, two NIC cards and a crossover cable, but after that I get very lost. I believe there should be a way to make them aware of one another using this direct connection w/out the need for DHCP or a

Re: Interesting spam

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:25 -0500, Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just got a spam with NO url, no address, and no phone number. Looks like a >simple throw away account with a sbcglobal drop box: > >What I found interesting was the opt-out clause at the end :) Which is it? >I also li

Re: Interesting NW article

On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 02:09:47PM -0500, Chris Santerre wrote: > > Managment still considers open source software to not be good enough. They > want to waste money to get a box and a phone number. > If that's all it takes, I can put "something" in a box and ship it to them. *grin* Michael

RE: Interesting NW article

>-Original Message- >From: Gary W. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:34 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Interesting NW article > > >Here is the thread. The word "very" should have been underlined and >bolded, but the mail ready seemed

Re: 70_sare_spoof.cf vis a vis paypal

jdow wrote: PayPal seems to have started using PostDirect for their email service. So the PayPal spoof test is breaking, rather dramatically. It looks like this has already been taken care of at PostDirect's end. Reverse DNS for 206.165.246.85 now resolves to email-85.paypal.com. Once the DNS cha

Re: Interesting NW article

Here is the thread. The word "very" should have been underlined and bolded, but the mail ready seemed to change it to clear text. I know there are more than 15, but I was just mentioning the very active ones such as Theo and Chris. I know I'm less active (more or less lurching now a days... Gar

Re: Interesting NW article

On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:08:50AM -0800, Gary W. Smith wrote: > I just got an email back from Joel. At least he is responsive. > Apparently he did reach out and touch the community. He apparent asked > the core development team. Unfortunately it was a narrow vision > community skipping everyone

RE: Interesting NW article

I just got an email back from Joel. At least he is responsive. Apparently he did reach out and touch the community. He apparent asked the core development team. Unfortunately it was a narrow vision community skipping everyone else. But there isn't much more that can be done about it now. Gary

whitelisting "lists"

RE: whitelisting "lists" Does anyone have suggestions about whitelisting messages from "lists". I know that a lot of FPs come from List messages getting blocked (for a number of reaons). Also, there is obviously no way to whitelist ALL lists. However, I was thinking that maybe there is a way to

Re: Interesting NW article

While I don't actually use SA, I recently subscribed to the SA list because I recognize SA as a leading product and I like to get ideas from this list. Also, I understand (and agree with) the frustration on the part of those here who think that SA should have had better inclusion and coverage in

Re: bayes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2004 14:06 schrieb Rodney Green: > Hello. I have more than the required 200 spam/200 ham in my bayes db. > When I add a spam message with sa-learn should SA now tag as spam, > any message that comes in with the same content? I

Re: Interesting NW article

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 16:41 schrieb Jerry Bell: > There's a big review of anti-spam products at nw fusion here: > http://www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2004/122004spampkg.html?ts > Here's a bit on spamassassin: > http://www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2004/1

Re: Interesting NW article

Gary W. Smith wrote: The article mentions that they reached out to the SA community to request submission. Which community did they read out to? I would have been glad to throw an environment together just for their testing purposes. I also wonder how many vendors on that list use SA as a backe

RE: Interesting NW article

The article mentions that they reached out to the SA community to request submission. Which community did they read out to? I would have been glad to throw an environment together just for their testing purposes. I also wonder how many vendors on that list use SA as a backend to their custom s

Re: Interesting spam

At 11:05 AM 12/21/2004, Chris Santerre wrote: Also has anyone seen this header, X-ELNK-Trace: ? Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22X-ELNK-Trace%22&btnG=Google+Search Appears to be a header added by the ISP earthlink.net.

Interesting spam

I just got a spam with NO url, no address, and no phone number. Looks like a simple throw away account with a sbcglobal drop box: What I found interesting was the opt-out clause at the end :) Which is it? I also like the 'hello' messege in the header. How did the spammer know I was a hottie? ;)

Re: whitelist_to parametr question

At 12:54 PM 12/21/2004 +0100, boka wrote: I have few users which if the email is spam it has to be delivered to theirs mailboxes. I used "whitelist_to" parametr but there are some meassages which are blocked. From docs: There are three levels of To-whitelisting, "whitelist_to", "more_spam_to" and

RE: SA Score

Sorry, I was away from the office unexpectedly. This is what is in my config file minus the quotes: "***SPAM(_SCORE_)***" I typed it in manually before and mistyped it in the email. Any ideas? Thanks much. Scott -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S

Re: custom rules

Andy Hester wrote: Hello all, I’m setting up a new spam gateway with amvisd-new and spamassassin. Where do I need to put custom rules/scoring in order to be used correctly. I would like to use for example rules from sare and weight it so that some things such as the adult rules wil

custom rules

Hello all,     I’m setting up a new spam gateway with amvisd-new and spamassassin.  Where do I need to put custom rules/scoring in order to be used correctly.  I would like to use for example rules from sare and weight it so that some things such as the adult rules will be visibly

bayes

Hello. I have more than the required 200 spam/200 ham in my bayes db. When I add a spam message with sa-learn should SA now tag as spam, any message that comes in with the same content? Is there a way to reinject the message into the smtp system (I'm using postfix) to see if the message is tagged?

whitelist_to parametr question

Hi ! I have few users which if the email is spam it has to be delivered to theirs mailboxes. I used "whitelist_to" parametr but there are some meassages which are blocked. From docs: There are three levels of To-whitelisting, "whitelist_to", "more_spam_to" and "all_spam_to". Users in the first

whitelisting problems

Hi, I use spamd with -c -a -m5 -H -d switches. I have in my global local.cf, whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] But still when a client sending mail using the From address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets marked as SPAM. The client's IP is in rbl and he is in process of removing it but ti

Re: relays.visi.com down, how to deactivate a single rbl?

Martin Hepworth wrote: score RCVD_IN_VISI 0 turns off the rule.. ah, tnx, I should have read the manpage more carefully... btw, I had the wrong rule name, it's score RCVD_IN_RSL 0 According to some postings in news.admin.net-abuse.email, relays.visi.com will not go online again, so it should be ta

RE: OT Boincing Spam

> If you're not already, consider using the RBL > sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org at the MTA level. It's quite safe and > rejects a lot of spam before it's even seen by SpamAssassin, etc. I'd have to disagree with you Jeff. A lot of the Irish and UK ISP netblocks end up in there as well, so you run a higher

Re: Interesting NW article

Interesting article... Did anyone actually see the 'invite' they talk about??? I didn't see anything on this list, or others. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Jerry Bell wrote: There's a big review of anti-spam products at nw fusion here: http

Re: relays.visi.com down, how to deactivate a single rbl?

Jakob score RCVD_IN_VISI 0 turns off the rule.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Jakob Hirsch wrote: Hi, as some of you may know, relays.visi.com is down since a while now. I wondered what would be the best way to tell SA not to use it any more

relays.visi.com down, how to deactivate a single rbl?

Hi, as some of you may know, relays.visi.com is down since a while now. I wondered what would be the best way to tell SA not to use it any more (to speed up network tests) through local.cf. Is there something like an "undefine RCVD_IN_VISI"? regards, Jakob

Re: MIT Spam conference

Daniel Quinlan wrote: William Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ...snip... If you're ever in the SF Bay Area and would like to get together, drop me a line. I've met with Jeff a few times. if any of you are ever in tokyo, i'd be down for meeting up for drinks or something. alan

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: MIT Spam conference

On Monday, December 20, 2004, 11:34:34 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > William Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year, Jan 21st, >> 9-5. Details at http://www.spamconference.org/ . The registration is >> free, but they suggest an early registrati

Re: OT Boincing Spam

On Monday, December 20, 2004, 12:49:59 PM, ChupaCabra ChupaCabra wrote: > My boss is twisting off today because he got 350 messages marked [SPAM] > over the weekend. His Reaction is to "Bounce em all, Let the isps sort > it out." I tried explaining about forged headers and the myriad of > othe

Re: MIT Spam conference

William Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year, Jan 21st, > 9-5. Details at http://www.spamconference.org/ . The registration is > free, but they suggest an early registration before the conference fills > up. Last year, it was awesome to me

70_sare_spoof.cf vis a vis paypal

PayPal seems to have started using PostDirect for their email service. So the PayPal spoof test is breaking, rather dramatically. = Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (XXX [127.0.0.1]) by XXX (Post

Re: Bayes question

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:28:45PM -0800, Jon Drukman wrote: > also bayes won't learn the *exact* same message repeatedly. if it's > already seen a message it won't process it at all. i'm not sure if it > works off the message-id or a hash of the message content. Just for clarification, it's a

Re: Bayes question

Chuck Campbell wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 12:56:43PM -0600, Steve Bondy wrote: For example, the default score in 2.6.x for BAYES_90 is either 2.454 or 2.101. If that's the only rule you hit, and your threshold is above those numbers, it will come through. But what if you repeatedly learn the m

Re: Spam processing errors

From: "Joe Zitnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I know I saw this in a previous thread, but for the life of me I can not > find it. I saw some postings where people were reporting that SA was > only processing every other e-mail, or not processing all e-mail. Was > this the correct list, and if so, can

Re: OT Boincing Spam

From: "ChupaCabra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > First he wanted that. I did it but actually kept em all. So then his > partner didn't get an urgent email so it was turned back to the users to > decide. I get a different kneejerk each week. What fun dealing with an > 80 yo ex military man. This am

Re: OT Boincing Spam

So true. If the boss wants to make an effort, then submit the spams to spamcop -- or personally go to the upstream providers with individual abuse complaints--- But attempting to bounce spam to likely bogus servers and users is futile, with results about the same as him going outside and pissing

Re: OT Boincing Spam

From: "Evan Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Evan Platt said: > > I don't have a link for you, but tell your boss to imagine if someone > > decided to dictionary attack every ISP they could find, using not only > > dictionary words, but every combination of letters up to 9 letters, i.e. > > a,

Re: OT Boincing Spam

From: "Evan Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ChupaCabra said: > > My boss is twisting off today because he got 350 messages marked [SPAM] > > over the weekend. His Reaction is to "Bounce em all, Let the isps sort > > it out." I tried explaining about forged headers and the myriad of > > other method

Re: OT Boincing Spam

Let your boss know that this policy he suggests WILL get him blocked at many sites permanently and spammers will find him such a convenient bounce spam relay that he'll end up on every blacklist in the world. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "ChupaCabra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My boss is

Re: Interesting NW article

SA plus SARE rules, even the only very conservative batch, is closer to 99% with few if any false positives. And with the Bayes scores on 3.x I figure "why bother to Bayes?" (So I doctored my rule values.) {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Carnegie, Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, fro

Re: trying to install 3.0.2 via CPAN

On Monday 20 December 2004 05:22 pm, Robert Menschel wrote: > I found a month or so ago, during a system rebuild, that for some > reason I was getting errors like this for 3.0.1, from a CPAN install, > but I then did a download of the tar and installed from that, and > "make test" came out clean.