about as well. I think some of that will apply to the EL6-based OpenVZ kernel
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RPCHECK=\"no\"
You have to add it twice as seen here:
http://git.openvz.org/?p=vzctl;a=commitdiff;h=24a0a40277542fba;hp=f4d35dde74fd74ab068e34748919ac0b9a6a21aa
I noticed it with the Fedora 21 beta OS Template... and then when I upgraded my
contributed Oracle 7.1 OS Template. I guess Cen
t rsync.
I'm guessing you have already looked at it but here's the wiki page:
https://wiki.openvz.org/Ploop/Backup
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t; be needed?
I don't think so... but even if one is started, it shouldn't really use up much
resources. I believe they are actually started on demand if and when one
switches over to a virtual console.
> 2) to Ola Lundqvist , what do you think, is it worth to fill the bug
> to Debi
e info see: http://src.openvz.org/
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the best of my knowledge, it will not... but I don't think it is
systemd related. There is a new mainline kernel release approximately very 3
months and big changes are fairly common.
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ntainer that has no free disk space.
Kir, that link gives me a 404 error... maybe because I'm not logged in to
github?
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. How
long before OWL goes to EL6 or is that not going to ever happen?
My solution? x2go... which is available in EL6 and EL7 EPEL... but not EL5.
EL5 is just too old I think... but then again, with some effort, you might be
able to shoehorn x2go onto EL5.
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of being able to access remote machines and not just the local system like Unix
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too... BUT the flavor of the X11 protocol it is transmitting is much more
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a command it seems like a lot of work
without much gain. I'm definitely against the idea.
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epo file. So, how do you make it work with non-rpm files?
> > I'm definitely against the idea.
>
> why?
Well, unless you can tell me how to make it work without changing anything, the
tool we have works fine.
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un two commands instead of only one: "yum update".
> this also is not fine.
Umm, we really do NOT want to encourage people running older kernels and
versions of the vz utils. Everyone is recommended to run the latest stable
releases.
I just use rsy
re anyway.
Then just pull the directory or directories that interest you.
I would ssh to the remote system I have my rsync script on but I'm guessing you
can figure out out fairly quickly. If not, just ask.
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5, 6 and
7. The OpenVZ Project distributes a number of other official OS Templates
including Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian... but those aren't listed... so it seems
like a partial dump of materials rather than a complete one.
But I better not forget... "Thanks Odin for releasing those!".
ols for those... but then again I haven't looked too hard.
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and what
it takes to actually start using it... and would just love to see some
enterprising OpenVZ user get it figured out for me and write up a wiki post all
about it. So far that hasn't happened.
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traveling at the moment) to see if it contains all of the same material:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Mz0XElYXk
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it can be made to work on Debian 7 as well.
Yes, the future direction is the EL7-based kernel and the migration to the
recently open sourced virtuozzo management tools... but that is down the road
some.
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and EL6... and it remains to be
seen how that will turn out for EL7. If the commercial oriented side of the
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can't get good docs for the EL7 stuff done... then of course it is up to the
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iminish Debian nor systemd with that statement. I'm a big
supporter of both... but my preferred platforms are Fedora (desktop) and EL
(RHEL and clone) for server. Fedora has been on systemd for a couple of years
now... and RHEL switched to it with EL7 which is a bit older than Debian 8.
ctory... does some rudimentary clean up and
optimization (turning off undesired / unworking-in-a-container services,
etc)... and then just tar.gz's it up. It probably put some effort into
abstracting how to specify repo URLs and package lists... but other than
that... that fancy stuff is
ween official OS Template releases... so they
are current.
Yeah, that's all some work... and you are a busy guy... servicing your own
customers and all... and while donating containers to people who already use
containers isn't anything to scoff at... it probably isn't going to
oop-based container when it
isn't running... simply by mounting it. Is there an issue with that?
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nother thing
is that some applications don't like it when their inodes changes during
migration with simfs. That isn't an issue with ploop.
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rgument is basically, "because it was already there and
people don't have to learn anything to use them". While that is true, it
doesn't sound too compelling to me.
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ok... but lots of people do use it... and if ZFS means it can't be used... that
is just another reason (for me) not to use ZFS.
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say "possibility are equals" tihs means what OpenVZ container code
has no errors at all.
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I certainly wasn't trying to twist your
arm and make you use migration... but surely you realize a lot of people do use
it and it is an important feature.
On my work setup I can migrate but on my hobby / home setup I can't... because
I only have one OpenVZ host node. I wish I had two th
ocess.
Again, thanks for the ongoing discussion.
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ndful of GBs I might potentially save in
disk space.
Your statement about "And ext4 with derivative file systems should be avoided
everywhere if possible" is just grossly exaggerated if not completely false.
It is like saying the Lamborghini Countach is the only car everyone should
I mentioned it... I
guess I should duplicate the URL:
https://openvz.org/Virtuozzo_7_Technical_Preview_-_Containers
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"Containers online migration between Virtuozzo 7 nodes using the CRIU project"
>From what you wrote and the coming soon blurb I'd assume the existing thing is
>left over from Virtuozzo 6 and hasn't been replace
, the amount and
variety of them grew.
Of course people who weren't using OpenVZ the first few years of its life are
only familiar with pre-created OS Templates.
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get lost in the multiple translations... but whatcha' gonna' do?
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tuff and give advice... but I imagine the folks making the
decisions are a few levels above the employees reading your posts. Perhaps
they will be able to act on some of your suggestions but if not, don't suffer
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g components work... and opens
the door to contributed OS Templates. Ideally though, the number of ez
meta-data packages will grow but given the current complexity of vztt and the
ez meta-data packaging... I see much less potential for contributed ez OS
Templates.
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istinct and different commands that operate
differently. Why in the world would I want one to pretend to be the other?
Rather than fight change, I prefer to embrace it.
Thanks for thinking of me though (fingers crossed).
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of prlctl it would have been renaming.
Any other mysteries of life I can clear up for you?
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rovides a tool for setting the hostname
(hostnamectl which stores the FQDN in /etc/hostname) and typically (on a
physical host anyway) NetworkManager is used. Since EL7 containers don't use
NetworkManager, putting the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network and/or
/e
File a bug if one does not exist already.
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lict with an existing
container on the Proxmox VE host) you do that too. If you are a master of the
config structure and it isn't too complicated, it should be fairly easy.
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h the methodology BUT there are
factors I'm missing that I'm currently unaware of. :(
Anyway, the good news still is that I can "prlctl clone {ctid}" and then remove
the inherited IP address, set a new IP address... start the container... and
eeing as how I don't have a PCS6 server setup... I
didn't test that.
They would really like to get some feedback on ovztransfer.sh so please,
everyone who is trying out V7 now... who has a OL server setup... please give
it a try and give feedback.
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OS Template. The process of making an EZ OS Template requires the creation of
a metadata package. They are in the process of simplifying vztt or at least it
is on the roadmap I believe.
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ined.
> I guess the template creation facility one of those things we'll have
> to wait for.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Joe
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Scott Dowdle <
> dow...@montanalinux.org > wrote:
>
>
> Gre
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> have it working now. thank you.
So what was the issue exactly? Just curious.
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with "{hostname}"
but it walks through all mirror hosts and gives the same error. Looking at the
mirrors, there doesn't seem to be a directory named "factory".
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.repo was not changed.
So the URLs returned by the mirrorlist has to be fixed/updated? That is to
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Working for me when I just checked now. Perhaps it was down early.
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nder /vz/private that doesn't show up in prlctl list -a. I guess it's a
template but would have expected it to be placed somewhere under
/vz/template/cache/. I'm not sure how to use it as a template.
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> is it possible to view this ticket public? Jira is prompting for a
> login.
No, you have to create a OpenVZ Jira account.
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system he said that an account was required. Maybe I imagined that... or maybe
they found a way around that. Anyway, good to know.
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mean. If you are going to be off topic, do a better job. :)
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> Is this the most current beta release ?
> virtuozzo-release-7.0.0-11.vz7.x86_64
My system has virtuozzo-release-7.0.0-16.vz7.x86_64
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> Would you share your repo source please ?
You can find the package here:
https://download.openvz.org/virtuozzo/factory/x86_64/os/Packages/v/
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>
> Honestly, if you had to choose one to deploy today, what would you
> choose?
>
> What if it were 6 months down the road?
I would go with OpenVZ legacy for now... and when VZ7 is done, setup a V7 host
and migrate existing containers to it.
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2.6.32-based
OpenVZ kernel on the hostnode running systemd is the problem... and one of the
things that Virtuozzo 7 addresses.
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think they supported ploop except
in the 4 series that uses a 3.x kernel and LXC rather than OpenVZ... but I
haven't really been keeping up with it.
I don't think with that kernel you can get any help from this mailing list.
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ajor changes.
So far as CentOS not addressing it in their release notes, why should they?
They mostly pretend OpenVZ doesn't exist although they do seem fairly Docker
friendly these days.
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Greetings,
A lot of Virtuozzo 7 Beta package updates are being held back since before
"16/Nov/15 8:07 AM" per this bug:
https://bugs.openvz.org/browse/OVZ-6584
Should people just install it from a third-party repo?
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say... a
stock CentOS install and I am not.
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ssing/hoping that on newer builds of the install
media, it includes that by default.
Thanks for your assistance. Now I have a ton of updates.
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POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.1/24 -o br0 -j SNAT --to
{host-ip-address}
I put that rule in /etc/rc.local and rebooted... but it doesn't seem to take
affect unless manually run post boot.
Anyway, it sorta works now.
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Rs 13:19 0:00
> vzctl
> stop 111 --fast
If you can get a pid list of what remains within the container, you can try to
kill -9 it from the host node. You can use vzpid to map container pid
references to host node pid references.
If that doesn't work for you... it would be inte
soft
limit, second is hard limit.
Note that this parameter is ignored for ploop layout.
- - - - -
I seem to remember some form that allowed you to do math in the parameter
value... but darn if I can find an example of that now.
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yeballing those two it appears RHEL
6.7 supports all E3-12XX V5 CPUs.
Does that answer the questions you had?
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performance with SSDs. I don't have an SSDs myself... but maybe others can say
how they might be using them?
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that will interest
you for future logging info.
The people to contact would be, and I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you
don't already know, the hosting provider... to have them troubleshoot for
you... since they had root access to the host node. They may have had some
issu
-7-2-systemd-does-not-work.336379/
DUH. Ok. I always run the latest kernel and I haven't had any problems. Go
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bitrotted with changes in Python and got discontinued.
After the container is created then you can prlctl set whatever config
parameters you need.
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ate. It really isn't that difficult, but if we are lucky, they can
just add the 32-bit version to their list.
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> I believed that OpenVZ team was releasing scripts and/or procedures of
> their supported templates generation.
Yes for Virtuozzo 7 but not, so far as I know, for OpenVZ Legacy. I hope I'm
wrong on that.
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u fan / user but I'm guessing some people are... and
wanted an OS Template. Anyone who is good at Ubuntu can certainly improve it
and contribute back... until an official one comes out... at which point I'm
sure interest will shift to the official OS Template.
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ell, but at this point,
> I'm interested in testing VM creation and management.
https://docs.openvz.org/
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given you a complete
answer, but there are some of the pieces.
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nvert even on day one of a GA? Who
even advises doing so even if it is convenient? I'm fairly confident that the
transition from OL to V7 with container migration should be fairly smooth...
even without live migration it shouldn't be too much trouble if planned for.
't really used.
Maybe someone here has used systemd cgroup based user resource controls within
OpenVZ and can tell us all about it?!?
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denyhosts (that only works with rsyslog logs so far as I know) works for EL6
hosts just fine by putting/removing lines in /etc/hosts.deny... so it works
completely without iptables much less ipset.
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m all eyes/ears.
Or if someone wants to take all of the code and built packages on their own for
other distros that's fine... but expecting Virtuozzo to do it I think is asking
too much.
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If they are configured that way, and they aren't starting, then we'll have to
look into it.
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r rebooting.
2) Not shutting down the container before reboot. The container was running
after rebooting.
For #2 I see in my /var/log/vzctl.log that it suspended the container prior to
reboot and then restored upon boot.
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time with two containers (one ploop and
one simfs) and got the same results as before. They started up after reboot if
they were manually shutdown prior or even if they weren't.
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Greeting,
- Original Message -
> Just to be clear, you're testing with legacy openvz, right?
Right. The kernel version should tell you.
2.6.32-x = OpenVZ Legacy
3.10.x = Virtuozzo / OpenVZ 7
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e usually helps to decrease the reboot time.
If a container fails to suspend, it will be stopped anyway.
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currently have any containers on it. Will have
to check. Probably needs a bit of updates too.
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One more test:
Shut the containers down and reboot: results - They automatically started up.
Nope, I'm not getting the results you are.
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after kernel update on Skylake systems
https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/07/07/psa-failure-to-boot-after-kernel-update-on-skylake-systems/
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use the default venet interface. You are obviously using veth interfaces...
but to answer your question, not that I know of.
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like a stock OpenVZ 7 would provide.
That could be a little hairy to setup for a notice.
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with a - don't seem
to be available anyway so I'm guessing they aren't important... so no loss in
omitting the QEMU group so far as I can tell.
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wiki pages in there too.
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igured it out either... and I'm already so used to
virt-manager from KVM systems past.
I wonder if SPICE will become an option in OpenVZ 7 at some point? SPICE may
work fine but I haven't tried it... and I don't see it in the documentation.
ontrol-f search for NVMe to see the relevant
updates. I'd expect to see RHEL 7.3 in two months or so and an OpenVZ 7 kernel
rebase to the 7.3 kernel update at some point thereafter.
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containers.
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