Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-23 Thread Zahid Rahman
It sounds like you will be making major bug bounty savings. Even if you offered $40 per bug. Although an IT professional who had the where abouts to tackle a bug probably wouldn't swat a real fly for 40 bux let alone a virtual bug. Z. https://www.backbutton.co.uk/ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶ On Sat,

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-23 Thread Som Lima
https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-JSF-Java-Applications/dp/1484233867 This book is on par with any professional $3000 per week course. for example He explains broken IDE setup errors and solutions which are relevant even with latest software versions, three years later. With this book h

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-14 Thread Will Hartung
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:27 AM HRH wrote: > > However, an observation that caught my attention on StackOverflow is that > the highest percentage of the activities (post and replies) on the > technologies I mentioned earlier took place between 2009 to 2015, followed > by a drastic drop onward, so

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-14 Thread HRH
Recently (using the COVID downtime)I started to look at Java EE (JSF, EJB, CDI, JPA, and so on) using the Java EE7 tutorial. I am so amazed by the drastic improvements to the technologycompared to the time I used to develop web applications with Java, JDBC, J2EE,and JSPs technologies before I

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-12 Thread nikita.zinov...@gmail.com
Will, that is a really interesting read, thank you! Speaking of modern JSF, I really enjoyed reading a 2018 book: "The Definitive Guide to JSF in Java EE 8: Building Web Applications with JavaServer Faces 1st ed. Edition" by Scholtz, Bauke, Tijms, Arjan Here's one of the links to it https://www.a

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-12 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:31 AM Som Lima wrote: > > My concerns layed to rest with my direction set. > > I feel I must ask one more question from this knowledge pool. A bonus > question if you please. > > It is my understanding struts is a competitor to spring but I don't > believe > It is part

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-12 Thread Will Hartung
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:13 PM nikita.zinov...@gmail.com < nikita.zinov...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm really amazed that Payara finally made it to a fully clustered App > server setting, people say they have seamless green/blue deployments there > with a cluster of 2-3 payara servers. I wish we cou

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-12 Thread Som Lima
My concerns layed to rest with my direction set. I feel I must ask one more question from this knowledge pool. A bonus question if you please. It is my understanding struts is a competitor to spring but I don't believe It is part of EE. Where does struts1 + 2 fit into the Big picture you guys p

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-11 Thread nikita.zinov...@gmail.com
Laszlo and Will, Thank you so much for sharing! Its great to know I am not alone with my love to JavaEE. I fell in love with it in 2003 while reading Mastering EJB II (2nd edition), XML didn't scare me at that time as I knew XPATH 2.0/XSLT and XMLSchema. By the way, there's a third edition update

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-11 Thread Will Hartung
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:54 PM Som Lima wrote: > > Nevertheless why is there a popularity tilt towards spring.io ? > Because it's popular. Popularity breeds popularity. JEE being standards based has always been hindered by the standards process. You can't do anything "quickly" by committee,

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-11 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Java EE had bad reputation as it was over designed. Big companies trying to sell pricey support for their bloated "good for everything" Application Servers which required high level of knowledge as entry point for developers. Then Spring came with it's bean context. It run on Tomcat and if you

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-11 Thread Som Lima
The journey with EE leads to success ! So jakarta EE and Spring.io are the two leading competitors in the same paradigm with popularity d) between the two 20:80 in favour of spring.io. Two of the popular opensource IDEs NetBeans and Eclipse IDE for java EE developers cater specifically

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-11 Thread nikita.zinov...@gmail.com
Josh, thank you very much for your answer! Could you please elaborate more on the benefits of using Netbeans with Jakarta EE compared to Intellij Idea? I suspect that Netbeans supports hot deploy features well for example. I'm mainly planning to use it with Payara (former Glassfish) for my and my

Re: Java EE8 Status

2021-01-08 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Som, Great to meet you, and thanks for the post. I believe that if you were to invest time into learning how to develop Java EE 8 and “Jakarta EE” applications with NetBeans, then you would be on a path to success. Java EE 8 is still modern, although it will be outdated within the coming y