https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-JSF-Java-Applications/dp/1484233867
This book is on par with any professional $3000 per week course. for example He explains broken IDE setup errors and solutions which are relevant even with latest software versions, three years later. With this book he has left no excuse to log on to an emailing list like this and ask why the right compiler isn't compiling. He has everything covered and it really does take you from novice to professional. Even the helloworld uses features I have not seen anywhere else in the intros. Thanks mate ! for the heads up. On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 07:25 nikita.zinov...@gmail.com, < nikita.zinov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will, that is a really interesting read, thank you! > > Speaking of modern JSF, I really enjoyed reading a 2018 book: > "The Definitive Guide to JSF in Java EE 8: Building Web Applications > with JavaServer Faces 1st ed. Edition" > by Scholtz, Bauke, Tijms, Arjan > Here's one of the links to it > https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-JSF-Java-Applications/dp/1484233867 > > It covers modern enhancements and quite a bit of complicated history of > JSF. > > --- > In one of our projects we nicely used a combination of > https://freemarker.apache.org/ as a templating engine > and JAX-RS, but I didn't like the fact that freemarker does not > support Expression Language (JSR 341, > https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=341), > I think this fits into the action framework concept. > > But I also tend to think JSF 2.1+, especially 2.3+ is a good choice, > although it takes some time to learn but there are nice textbooks on > it! > > My 2 cents, > > Nikita > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 18:50, Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:31 AM Som Lima <somplastic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> My concerns layed to rest with my direction set. > >> > >> I feel I must ask one more question from this knowledge pool. A bonus > question if you please. > >> > >> It is my understanding struts is a competitor to spring but I don't > believe > >> It is part of EE. > >> > >> Where does struts1 + 2 fit into the Big picture you guys painted ? > > > > > > Formally, Struts in any form has nothing to with JEE. It's only a > competitor to a portion of Spring. > > > > Struts 1 needs to die in a fire. It should remain only to be held up as > an example of things not to do, especially today. It's single claim to fame > back in the day was simply that it arrived first. Struts 1 is awful, IMHO. > Modern JSP and Servlets alone are far better, and there are much better > frameworks. Struts II is a vast improvement and related to Strut 1 in name > only. I would put them both aside, frankly. > > > > In JEE, you have JSP 2.x + Servlets and JSF. JSP 2.x is, IMHO, one of > the finest web application templating systems out there. JSP + Tag files + > Expresion Language is really powerful. If you want a templating language > for other things, JSP is a rough fit. But if you want one for web pages, > it's really remarkable. > > > > That said, modern JSF is really amazing. It's really powerful, but it > certainly comes with complexity. JSF is a true modular and component based > framework that scary powerful abstractions can be laid upon. Most people > don't take it there, but the underlying capability is there. If you were to > go with a more server side rendering system, JSF is very viable. > > > > There's been calls for a JEE standard MVC framework. Struts II was > considered an MVC framework. The term "Action Framework" is another term of > art for it. That effort stalled and derailed when Oracle dumped JEE on to > the world. I don't know the current status. Spring has an action/MVC > framework as well. JAX-RS with a little work is a pretty usable action > framework. > > > > Today, most folks seem to trend to javascript heavy, single page apps > with JSON backend services. In that case, you don't need much of anything > server side. I can not speak to those, as that's not my area of expertise. > As a rule, I find most modern webapps to be not very good. There needs to > be a balance between the heavy pages and static pages with live controls. > In that realm, I think JSF is a better fit, but I have not worked on such > an app in some time. > > > > Regards, > > > > Will Hartung >
