It sounds like you will be making  major
bug bounty savings. Even if you offered $40 per bug.

Although an IT professional who had the where abouts to tackle a bug
probably wouldn't swat a real fly for 40 bux let alone a virtual  bug.



Z.

https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2021, 17:28 Som Lima, <somplastic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-JSF-Java-Applications/dp/1484233867
>
> This book is on par with any professional $3000 per week course.
>
> for example He explains broken  IDE setup errors and solutions  which are
> relevant even with latest software versions,  three years later.
>
> With this book he has left no excuse to log on to an emailing list like
> this and ask why the right compiler isn't compiling.
>
> He has everything covered and it really does take you from novice to
> professional.
>
> Even the helloworld  uses features I have not seen anywhere else in the
> intros.
>
> Thanks mate ! for the heads up.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 07:25 nikita.zinov...@gmail.com, <
> nikita.zinov...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Will, that is a really interesting read, thank you!
>>
>> Speaking of modern JSF, I really enjoyed reading a 2018 book:
>> "The Definitive Guide to JSF in Java EE 8: Building Web Applications
>> with JavaServer Faces 1st ed. Edition"
>> by  Scholtz, Bauke, Tijms, Arjan
>> Here's one of the links to it
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-JSF-Java-Applications/dp/1484233867
>>
>> It covers modern enhancements and quite a bit of complicated history of
>> JSF.
>>
>> ---
>> In one of our projects we nicely used a combination of
>> https://freemarker.apache.org/ as a templating engine
>> and JAX-RS, but I didn't like the fact that freemarker does not
>> support Expression Language (JSR 341,
>> https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=341),
>> I think this fits into the action framework concept.
>>
>> But I also tend to think JSF 2.1+, especially 2.3+ is a good choice,
>> although it takes some time to learn but there are nice textbooks on
>> it!
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> Nikita
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 18:50, Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:31 AM Som Lima <somplastic...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> My concerns layed to rest with my direction set.
>> >>
>> >> I feel I must ask one more question from this knowledge pool. A bonus
>> question if you please.
>> >>
>> >> It is my understanding struts is a competitor to spring but I don't
>> believe
>> >> It is part of EE.
>> >>
>> >> Where does struts1 + 2 fit into the Big picture you guys  painted   ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Formally, Struts in any form has nothing to with JEE. It's only a
>> competitor to a portion of Spring.
>> >
>> > Struts 1 needs to die in a fire. It should remain only to be held up as
>> an example of things not to do, especially today. It's single claim to fame
>> back in the day was simply that it arrived first. Struts 1 is awful, IMHO.
>> Modern JSP and Servlets alone are far better, and there are much better
>> frameworks. Struts II is a vast improvement and related to Strut 1 in name
>> only. I would put them both aside, frankly.
>> >
>> > In JEE, you have JSP 2.x + Servlets and JSF. JSP 2.x is, IMHO, one of
>> the finest web application templating systems out there. JSP + Tag files +
>> Expresion Language is really powerful. If you want a templating language
>> for other things, JSP is a rough fit. But if you want one for web pages,
>> it's really remarkable.
>> >
>> > That said, modern JSF is really amazing. It's really powerful, but it
>> certainly comes with complexity. JSF is a true modular and component based
>> framework that scary powerful abstractions can be laid upon. Most people
>> don't take it there, but the underlying capability is there. If you were to
>> go with a more server side rendering system, JSF is very viable.
>> >
>> > There's been calls for a JEE standard MVC framework. Struts II was
>> considered an MVC framework. The term "Action Framework" is another term of
>> art for it. That effort stalled and derailed when Oracle dumped JEE on to
>> the world. I don't know the current status. Spring has an action/MVC
>> framework as well. JAX-RS with a little work is a pretty usable action
>> framework.
>> >
>> > Today, most folks seem to trend to javascript heavy, single page apps
>> with JSON backend services. In that case, you don't need much of anything
>> server side. I can not speak to those, as that's not my area of expertise.
>> As a rule, I find most modern webapps to be not very good. There needs to
>> be a balance between the heavy pages and static pages with live controls.
>> In that realm, I think JSF is a better fit, but I have not worked on such
>> an app in some time.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Will Hartung
>>
>

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