Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:32:23 Scott Rouse wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM, "KC8LDO" wrote: > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to > > a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind > > a company firewall, which I have no contro

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:42:03 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/14/2011 07:26 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > > A firewall cannot protect a network against its own internal users, and > > should not even try to. > > > > > > So, if the OP asks his admin to

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:33:25 Reindl Harald wrote: > peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing > other ones I am not enforcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice. > to break policies which you and we do not understand > from outside and there is only one person

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 16:28:17 Ed Greshko wrote: > All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views > on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry. Oh, I understand you completely! :-) The opinion that I have comes from the experience of being

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 14:02:25 Ian Malone wrote: > On 14 October 2011 13:16, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to > > break the rules. If instead you teach people why they should uphold the > > rules, it *is* *not

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 23:18:17 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/14/2011 03:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize > > to make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them. > > This made absolutely no sense at

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 17 October 2011 02:34:47 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:20:35 -0500 > > Chris Adams wrote: > > Define "first". Hint: that's not a solvable problem on general PC > > hardware (thus, biosdevname). There have been many problems over the > > years where the ordering changed on

Re: Firefox 7 on Fedora 14

2011-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 17 October 2011 16:13:36 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/17/2011 07:37 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 07:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> On 10/17/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>> It is already available on F14. I am running it. That happened when I > >>> op

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 18 October 2011 00:57:42 jdow wrote: > On 2011/10/17 06:50, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Monday 17 October 2011 02:34:47 Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:20:35 -0500 > >> > >> Chris Adams wrote: > >>> Define "first

Re: Gdm removed when sugar WM removed

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 23 October 2011 19:17:54 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/23/2011 07:20 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > > A simple solution would be not disinstall GDM by default in any WM group > > disinstallation: I guess that many people want to try different WM's and > > in case they decided to disinstall som

Re: Gdm removed when sugar WM removed

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 23 October 2011 21:14:17 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/23/2011 12:55 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > How do you determine whether or not a given wm needs gdm? Any wm can > > equally well use kdm instead of gdm, so it is actually a conditional > > dependency --- &qu

Re: Gdm removed when sugar WM removed

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 23 October 2011 21:19:57 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/23/2011 12:55 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Sorry to be sending this to the list, but as you'll see, it's the only > way I can do this. Please remove your own email address from the Reply > To: field until you&#

Re: Unable to ssh nodes with global IP

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 24 October 2011 02:18:39 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/24/2011 02:04 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 10/23/2011 02:09 AM, Abu Attar Musharih wrote: > >> The customer service said that ssh is not allowed. So, what to do > >> then? I badly need a server with global IP for experimenting grid > >> co

Re: Unable to ssh nodes with global IP

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 24 October 2011 03:35:12 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/24/2011 10:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > P.S. Sorry folks, just couldn't resist... :-D No hard feelings, Ed! :-) > > No hard feelings But. > > ISP ≠ Employer Oh, so if they are paying you, i

Re: Unable to ssh nodes with global IP

2011-10-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 24 October 2011 04:07:35 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > P.S. For the OP: in case you missed that previous thread I reffered to, > here's the link: > >http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-October/406090.html It appears that the thread was lousy threa

Re: Unable to ssh nodes with global IP

2011-10-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 24 October 2011 12:15:03 Abu Attar Musharih wrote: > I tried INCOMING ssh several times and check file /var/log/secure > No entries related to login attempt found. > Now, it becomes even worse. Yesterday I could do OUTGOING ssh, but not > anymore. The following site is inaccessible > >

Re: Unable to ssh nodes with global IP

2011-10-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 13:28:05 Abu Attar Musharih wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > > Can you ping the machine? If yes, then are there traces in the logs > > that show the connection attempts? (You can make iptables log those.) > > Above is another important poi

Re: Who to ask about old Red Hat Linux ISOs I've uncovered

2011-10-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 28 October 2011 09:25:10 Andre Robatino wrote: > The site http://legacy.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/ has some old Red Hat > Linux content. Unfortunately, it's very incomplete. I have archives of the > install discs going back at least to RH 7.0. (I started on RH 6.0 so might > have someth

Re: Constructing Grid on Fedora

2011-11-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 01 November 2011 09:11:01 Abu Attar Musharih wrote: > I have a cluster of several PCs, each is running Fedora, either 14 or 15. > I want to make this PCs grid enabled, so I installed globus ( > http://www.globus.org/ ) and made a server with a global IP and with > a subdomain. My main

Re: How can the system be bumped-up to the next evolution of RAM-processing..?

2011-11-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:56:13 Linda McLeod wrote: [snip] > Why is there RAM..? Why can't the OS > run its RAM off'n the hd..? RAM exists because I/O of a HD is waaay too slow. You can get a feeling just how slow it can get when you open too many apps simultaneously, thus exhausting ava

Re: How can the system be bumped-up to the next evolution of RAM-processing..?

2011-11-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 18:47:25 Rick Stevens wrote: > Uhm, Marko, I think Linda was trying to be facetious. Good info from > you, though. :-) Oh, well, English is not my native language, so often I fail to recongize anything other than face-value meaning of what is written, especially on

Re: windows migrant: choosing linux distribution

2011-11-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 12:37:15 Linux Tyro wrote: > i am new in this world of linux. getting confused seeing a lot of linux > distro. I just want to use linux distro to learn linux from the scratch > level. please suggest me if fedora is the best place to start with. other > details are as f

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 03 November 2011 07:33:33 Linux Tyro wrote: > Inserted the CD in the CD-ROM (yes it was the first boot option). > Everything was going on smooth but after some time I came to the windows > where I have to do something regarding 'partitioning'. The CD, by default > showed with the follow

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 03 November 2011 14:14:46 Linux Tyro wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > What earlier I used to think is that, "BIOS only send the instructions to > the boot-loader (probably or whatever it sends the signal to) to just boot, > BIOS has

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 04 November 2011 11:11:56 Linux Tyro wrote: > Well, since (now) /home is a separate partition, but we cannot boot from > /home only because it is not containing the required file to get booted and > it is only for storing the data.? In principle one probably could tweak a system into

Re: Installing Fedora 16 from USB

2011-11-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 11 November 2011 18:44:31 Miguel Cardenas wrote: > I've download Fedora 16 to install in onto my new notebook that comes with > no dvd drive... so I used liveusb to create a bootable USB with the ISO... > It starts the installation but then it says it does not detect a DVD drive > and it

Re: chksystemd Re: SystemD - F-16

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 13 November 2011 07:22:51 T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Yay for unicode bugs! Fixed in chksystemd-2 (along with a brown paper > bag bug that made the "reset" action not work), which is now available > at http://tchol.org/chksystemd/ > > > Hope this helps. > > > > PS: I think this is a ve

Bios boot partition question

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Hi folks! :-) After a successful installation of F16 on my machine with (of course) custom partition layout, I decided to read the F16 release notes. ;-) And there I found this passage: Starting in Fedora 16, on non-EFI x86 (32 and 64 bit) systems, anaconda will default to creating GPT diskl

Re: Bios boot partition question

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 13 November 2011 19:24:19 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:11:03 +0000 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Now, I gather from the text above that the boot partition is necessary > > only for "non-EFI" systems with a "GPT-labelled" disk. What does thi

Re: Right click on window title bar in KDE

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 November 2011 11:26:19 Zhangsan wrote: > I've just upgraded to Fedora 16 from 15. The menu of > window-titile-right-click in KDE always appears on the top screen edge. Is > this a feature or a bug? Yup, it happens on a clean install of F16 as well. If you ask me, it's a bug. I wouldn

Re: Skype

2011-11-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 November 2011 20:40:34 Mike Dwiggins wrote: > On 11/14/2011 8:33 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > > On 11/14/2011 8:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 11/15/2011 11:13 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > >>> Anyone know where the config files for Skype are located? > >>> > >>> I have it installed on F

Re: Skype

2011-11-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 November 2011 22:51:34 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 11/14/2011 10:45 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Monday 14 November 2011 20:40:34 Mike Dwiggins wrote: > >> On 11/14/2011 8:33 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > >>> On 11/14/2011 8:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Re: F16 KDE desktop effects - incomplete

2011-11-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 15:25:16 mike cloaked wrote: > I have two machines running f16 x86_64 fully up to date with a KDE > desktop. > [snip] > > This machine runs KDE desktop effects beautifully - the cube for > virtual desktops switches wonderfully and wobbly windows works as I > woul

Re: Fedora 16 and switchable graphics - ATI Radeon HD 6600M video(Sony VAIO SA25GB)

2011-11-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 17 November 2011 19:20:49 ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: > - The VAIO notebook doesn't have a BIOS option to turn off the ATI video. > But it has a "stamina/speed" tootle on the keyboard. Under Windows, > changing the toogle makes the screen go blank for a few seconds and back, > suppose

Re: F16: second monitor is not detected.

2011-11-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 19 November 2011 07:36:45 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: > On 11/18/2011 01:46 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote: > > On 11/17/2011 07:23 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: > >> What is the keyboard shortcut to toggle mirrored mode? I was not > >> aware that there was one. > > > > It is vendor-dependent. M

Re: Having a large desktop. (Font, icon and application sizes)

2011-11-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 21 November 2011 20:43:07 linux guy wrote: > No replies to this ? Am I asking the question wrong ? All I want is > everything on the desktop to be larger. Decrease monitor resolution? The xrandr will tell you what resolutions are supported by your monitor. You can make a custom xorg

Re: How to make temperature applet report in celsius

2011-11-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 21 November 2011 23:33:46 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The KDE temperature panel widget on my system reports the temperatures > in degrees F. I would prefer it to report in degrees C, since all the > literature about max safe temperature, etc. gives values in degrees C. > How can the thermo

Re: Having a large desktop. (Font, icon and application sizes)

2011-11-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 14:57:19 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/22/2011 01:00 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 20:43:07 linux guy wrote: > >> No replies to this ? Am I asking the question wrong ? All I want is > >> everything

Re: mount command absurdly verbose?

2011-11-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 16:25:06 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.11.2011 16:09, schrieb Andras Simon: > > Hmmm. I wonder why /dev/sdb8 is mounted to 3 different places? > > I see here something like this too: > > > > /dev/sda1 on / type ext2 > > (rw,noatime,nodiratime,seclabel,errors=continue) >

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 09:57:35 JB wrote: > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results: > > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html Oh, come on JB, do you really think quoting that guy makes any sense? If you ever bothered to look around his blog entries, you would easily

Re: Can't increase screen resolution (F16, KDE)

2011-11-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 24 November 2011 10:10:43 John Aldrich wrote: > I have Fedora 16 with a 19" flat-panel screen capable of 1280x1024, > however, Fedora / KDE seems to not realize my monitor is capable of this > resolution, and only offers a max resolution of 1024x768, which is > freaking HUGE on my monit

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 25 November 2011 15:40:37 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 13:30 -0500, Matt Rose wrote: > > As well, KDE's track record on this is not exactly stellar. KDE4 was > > basically unusable up until 4.3 or so. > > I'd dispute that. I've used KDE 4 since it came out and neve

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 25 November 2011 20:03:58 Antonio Olivares wrote: > --- On Fri, 11/25/11, Craig White wrote: > > ah but it was exactly licensing issues that caused the fork > > of cdrtools into wodim... > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html

Re: Display resolution problems

2011-11-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 26 November 2011 15:41:08 John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu November 24 2011 6:07:46 PM Craig White wrote: > > > > no reason to ask essentially the same question just 2 hours after the > > last time you asked and a most reasonable suggestion was made. > > Craigare you sure I asked

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 26 November 2011 13:02:03 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Are you kidding? You'd have thought Fedora was eating > > people's babies - without salt - the way this list blew up when > > KDE4 came out in Fedora. > > +1 > > Some folks saw this coming! Turns out that now other desktops are fo

Re: Top posting in a meandeing thread was: Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 27 November 2011 20:00:20 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 27.11.2011 19:32, schrieb Maurizio Marini: > > A. Because people read from top to bottom. > > Q. Why should I not top post? > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad th

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 November 2011 09:43:05 Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 11:41 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Developers have already made up their minds and released their new > > innovations, and "not" what the research is asking for. You want to > > look at new small screens like tablets, pho

Re: Top posting in a meandeing thread was: Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 November 2011 20:03:02 Ed Greshko wrote: > Sorry POC for inserting here. > > I just want to congratulate all the participants in this thread and > resulting tangents. You've manged to hit at least 3 most often > recurring themes. > > > > A. GNOME 3 is the most hated desktop

Re: passwordless sudo

2011-11-30 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 30 November 2011 10:49:40 Mike Chambers wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 13:38 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > Hi, list! > > I'm trying to set up passwordless sudo for myself. It's a shiny brand > > new fresh-installed F16. During first boot I had been asked to create > > a new user and put him

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 03 December 2011 07:37:21 Scott Doty wrote: > If you want to have your ideas respected, I suggest you come up with > respectable ideas. "Stop using Fedora" is not one of them. "Linus' > opinion doesn't matter" is not one of them. Respect on this list is obtained by providing high-qua

Re: Hacking Xorg.conf

2011-12-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 03 December 2011 18:50:57 John Aldrich wrote: > Ok, for some reason (probably because I'm using an old KVM switch) my Fedora > 16 system is not detecting what monitor I have and is refusing to give me a > usable resolution. I have a Dell E2210H wide-screen monitor and it's > capable of

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 04 December 2011 19:59:38 Reindl Harald wrote: > all this counts will not change the fact that workstations and > powerusers will exist in 10 years as they do now > > and this is why it is wrong to design defaults only having > smartphones and tabs in mind - ther are people which do much

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 04 December 2011 12:21:44 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/04/2011 11:26 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Gnome3 provides a desktop for that vast majority of ignorant people who > > want a zero-slope learning curve between the smartphone, TV, computer, > > car and microwave

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 13:19:13 Misha Shnurapet wrote: > 05.12.2011, 21:06, "Andrew Haley" : > > Ah, it's the *users'* own fault, for not spending enough time reading > > the GNOME 3 mailing lists. How stupid of them. > > It looks like you prioritize knowlege of science fiction comedy over t

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 22:16:40 JB wrote: > Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > > ... > > SELinux relabeling is caused by booting a rescue mode kernel. As soon > > as you boot a system with SELinux disabled, the init system creates > > the /.autorelabel file, so the next time it boots with

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

2011-12-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 14:39:45 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 07.12.2011 07:50, schrieb Craig White: > > out of curiosity, what is the requirement for having uidNumbers starting > > at 500 instead of 1000? > > because people usually migrate their whole systems from one hardware > to the next an

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

2011-12-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 20:19:31 Alan Cox wrote: > > > did you ever work in an environment with a lot of servers and > > > users and used rsync / nfs? > > > > Why would you even consider using Fedora in such an environment? If you > > have a server farm with shared users and use rsync/nfs/wh

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

2011-12-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 23:48:58 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 07.12.2011 16:50, schrieb Marko Vojinovic: > > On Wednesday 07 December 2011 14:39:45 Reindl Harald wrote: > >> did you ever work in an environment with a lot of servers and > >> users and used rsync /

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 13:34:48 Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm starting Yet Another Thread here because things have changed enough > that it seems reasonable. On my desktop, I ran this: > > yum --releasever=16 --skip-broken distro-sync > > and let it do what it wanted, including downgrading severa

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 20:29:21 Joe Zeff wrote: > The log is at > http://www.zeff.us/xorglog.txt right now. Ok, this is funny... Judging by the log, for all intents and purposes X seems to be actually running without any trouble. How exactly did you start the X session? From telinit 3, u

Re: FC16 newbe questions

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 09:10:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the > 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges > adjusting th GNOME in FC16 > > Like where are my workspaces? I work with 4 of them for my

Re: gnome 3

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 15:18:59 Patrick Dupre wrote: > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? No, there isn't. W

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 14:23:14 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > From the above I would say that the X session is up and running, using > > 1280x1024, on virtual terminal 7. > > An ignorant question, but do the terms "virtual terminal", &

Re: Historical Question - dracut

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 22:57:51 Ed Greshko wrote: > Bit of a brain freeze > > What was the command used prior to dracut? Was that mkinitrd? Or is my brain frozen as well? ;-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opt

Re: FC16 newbe questions

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 10:58:27 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or > > LXDE. ;-) > And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I kind of grew up with

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 14:40:52 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/08/2011 02:05 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > I guess you'd give it multi-user.target or runlevel3.target if you > > wanted to boot it as a one-off. Also the old runlevel numbers still > > work; you can just add '3' to the kernel arguments and

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 09 December 2011 01:37:06 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > In order to debug the above faulty-GDM scenario, try the following: > > * boot into runlevel 3 and login (not as root) > * startx > // this should start X and then GDM, which should fail only once and put you > back

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 December 2011 17:47:20 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/08/2011 05:37 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > This scenario assumes that there are no hardware malfunctions and that > > the nVidia driver is working correctly. All this is plausibly true, > > based on the Xorg l

Re: Boot-time messages under Fedora 16

2011-12-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 09 December 2011 12:18:30 Alan Stern wrote: > Under Fedora 14 and earlier, boot-time messages get stored in > /var/log/boot.log. Things like "Welcome to Fedora" and "Starting > udev:" would appear there. > > After I upgraded to Fedora 16, this no longer works. Nothing gets > written to

Re: Unable to get into X

2011-12-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 10 December 2011 19:52:43 Joe Zeff wrote: > Good news: I borrowed my sister's (PS2) keyboard, put it on my desktop > and tried it. It worked. I booted directly into a CLI and posted my > xorg.conf at http://www.zeff.us/xorg.conf The xorg.conf seems ok, nothing wrong AFAICS. > and lo

Re: VNCViewer not starting anymore

2011-12-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 11 December 2011 14:33:42 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > When I first installed f16, I tried out VNCViewer and it started up, but > the address I was using was blocked from my VNCServer; no problem really > > So I move my new notebook to the proper VLAN and copied all the files > from the

Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...

2011-12-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 15 December 2011 16:36:43 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 12:29 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I was under the impression that codecs were executables and as such, OS > > specific. I presume that a Windows codec/trojan could run under wine if > > you have it installed, b

Re: VirtualBox installation question.

2011-12-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 16 December 2011 23:54:10 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 16.12.2011 23:50, schrieb Erik P. Olsen: > > I have installed VirtualBox-4.0-4.0.14_74382_fedora14-1.x86_64 and have > > been running it for quite some time. I have now noticed that a new > > version VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.6_74713_fedora14-1

Re: F16 unusable while writing to pendrive

2011-12-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 17 December 2011 19:41:38 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to a > pendrive, the system would become a little sluggish. Now it essentially > freezes until the write terminates. What I mean is that the UI is almost > completely

Re: F16 unusable while writing to pendrive

2011-12-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 17 December 2011 21:17:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 01:37 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Saturday 17 December 2011 19:41:38 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to

Re: Progress on getting my desktop working properly

2011-12-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 18 December 2011 20:00:25 Joe Zeff wrote: > I've cleaned up all of the problems reported by package-cleanup. > Checking for dupes reported over 1400 duplicate packages; but telling it > to clean them hung the program. I've spent the last several days > hacking away at this, little by lit

Re: Missing icon from KDE System Tray

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 19 December 2011 05:02:52 Craig White wrote: > On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 12:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I think maybe I didn't make it clear in the original post. The "IBus > > Panel" *is* in the systray. It even shows in the "System Tray Settings" > > under "Entries". I even marked it

Re: Graphical file search tool

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 19 December 2011 14:14:56 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/19/2011 02:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > I'm running GNOME on Fedora 14, and under the "Places" menu, there's > > an option called "Search for Files..." > > With XFCE, it's under Accessories. In KDE, it is called "Find Files/Folders", in t

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 19 December 2011 18:32:56 Kevin Martin wrote: > > From the driver page on the nVidia website for your laptop video card: > > Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver > > Version: 290.10 > > So after working on this all afternoon with Lawrence, it turned out that we > needed to fall back to

Re: Missing icon from KDE System Tray

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 04:35:44 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/20/2011 02:25 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > First, the cryptic stuff IBus means Intelligent Input Bus. It is an > input framework for Linux. > > To enable IBus on KDE, GNOME probably has a similar setting (I think i

Re: Graphical file search tool

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 19 December 2011 21:02:45 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/19/2011 05:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> Is there a file search tool similar to the Win file search? > >> > >> For text-based I have used updatedb/locate. The search i

Re: Graphical file search tool

2011-12-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 19 December 2011 21:02:45 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/19/2011 05:09 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> Is there a file search tool similar to the Win file search? > >> > >> For text-based I have used updatedb/locate. The search i

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 21 December 2011 06:58:08 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Still take for example the Android platform which is Linux/GNU/Linux. Wait, is there really any GNU in the Android? I thought that Android was a textbook example of a Linux-based non-GNU OS... ;-) // And now the *real* flame war

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 22 December 2011 09:35:59 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/2011 09:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > // And now the *real* flame wars will begin... Me ducks for cover, > > smiling in a diabolic way... // > > Does that mean you are openly admitting to status of "t

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 22 December 2011 17:28:59 Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 01:05 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Me ducks for cover > > Ducks don't provide much cover. You need something larger, like an > albatross. LOL! :-D Best, :-) Marko -- u

Re: Openfoam is available!!!

2011-12-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 22 December 2011 10:09:16 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:27 +0100, Antonio M wrote: > > Openfoam is available for F15 and F16, both 32 bit and 64 bit. > > > > On the download page http://www.openfoam.com/download/fedora.php I > > think that the instruction module

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 22 December 2011 12:47:56 Steven Stern wrote: > With tech, it will always be faster, cheaper, and better next year. If > you can use the benefit now and it's hit your price point, buy it. If > it's not at your price point, wait a bit. Forgive my ignorance, what is a "price point"? Be

Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Please someone explain me the following --- [root@Yoda ~]# updatedb [root@Yoda ~]# locate teraipo /dev/disk/by-label/teraipo [root@Yoda ~]# ll /media/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x. 17 vmarko vmarko 4096 Nov 15 00:49 teraipo In addition, nothing under /media/teraipo/ can be located using "locate". Not a s

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 23 December 2011 10:36:47 G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On 12/23/2011 10:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > [root@Yoda ~]# cat /etc/updatedb.conf > > PRUNE_BIND_MOUNTS = "no" > > PRUNEFS = "9p afs anon_inodefs auto autofs bdev binfmt_misc cgroup cifs >

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 23 December 2011 10:49:57 jdow wrote: > On 2011/12/23 08:57, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> Also, give it time... > > > > How much? We're still waiting for signs of major mutations from > > Hiroshima and Nagasaki to show up. > > > >> Fukushima ra

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 24 December 2011 01:13:56 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/23/2011 11:34 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > That's not exactly true. The radiation is quite easy to measure, and > > there is no need for increased sensitivity of the detectors. > > It all depends on whic

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 24 December 2011 00:13:34 jdow wrote: > On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I'd say that uncontrolled nuclear pollution is the single most > > irresponsible thing that humans could ever do to this planet (bar a > > global thermonuclear war). Oi

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 23 December 2011 17:12:35 JB wrote: > Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > ... > --debug-pruning > Write debugging information about pruning decisions to > standard error output. > > Try it with manual entry or /etc/cron.daily/mlocat

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 25 December 2011 02:20:48 夜神 岩男 wrote: > Going on vacation to Hiroshima next month. Planning on taking the wife > and kids. Anything special I should be worried about? Not that I know of. AFAIK, the WW2 bomb residues have been cleaned up pretty thoroughly years ago, in both Hiroshima a

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 24 December 2011 12:44:58 G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > looking at the output of the mount command on F16, it lists tmpfs on > /media. This is different from F14 and Gentoo, where /media is a regular > directory. Thanks for pointing this out! :-) Indeed, /media is explicitly mounted, rathe

[SOLVED] Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 24 December 2011 13:33:57 T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want > > /media to be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know >

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 24 December 2011 20:07:20 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 24.12.2011 19:58, schrieb Marko Vojinovic: > > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want > > /media to be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know > > I could re

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 25 December 2011 02:14:01 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/25/2011 12:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_customize_a_unit_file.2F_add > _a_custom_unit_file.

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Wow, look, another OT thread to contribute to! :-D On Sunday 25 December 2011 23:35:15 Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> We're mostly sensitive to green, then red, then blue. > > Joe Zeff: > > Not quite, AIUI. The wavelength the human eye is most sensitive to is > > in the "greenish yellow" range, much mo

Re: Listings Question About Ping

2011-12-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 26 December 2011 10:31:02 les wrote: > On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 17:12 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Wow, look, another OT thread to contribute to! :-D [snip] > > [me loading extension_Relativity... skipping: already hard-coded] > > > > In any discussion rela

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