Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
Mikkel L. Ellertson gmail.com> writes: > > On 11/23/2011 03:57 AM, JB wrote: > > > > The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain > > a test system OS), with implied quality, and for a user. > > > > It is time to blink.

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > > On Wednesday 23 November 2011 09:57:35 JB wrote: > > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results: > > > > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html > > Oh, come on JB, do you really think quoting that guy m

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
te in any other Internet discussions except Fedora lists ... > ... > I offended him? Really? I offered him a simple solution to his problem > and he insulted me. And I left the thread with a pleasant goodbye. > > Same here for you. Have a great evening. And enjoy your Trolling. >

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
David gmail.com> writes: > ... > My "political axes to grind" are with those like the user that started > this thread who calls himself JB. It was a waste of bandwidth. This is > supposed to be a *help* list for those that have a problem or a question > and not a *c

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
David gmail.com> writes: > ... > For the moment... peace? I am sorry if I took you for someone else. Please forward my impersonator's email then. Peace as well :-) JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-23 Thread JB
d miserably. There is an opinion piece on Ubuntu and Unity, but could be on GNOME as well. http://www.h-online.com/open/features/HealthCheck-Ubuntu-The-search-for-unity-1377292.html JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread JB
vice. The so called "smart money" has already left, the other half of the herd is running towards the cliff, making themselves irrelevant as a product (Fedora). That's why I said it here and in the other (stats) thread it is time to blink and reconstitute RH-controlled Fedora projec

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread JB
Craig White azapple.com> writes: > > On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote: > > The above mentioned stats (see other thread) reflect that; that they show > > almost half of Fedora sites migrated to other distros/OSs is not so > > surprsising considering its

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-25 Thread JB
Craig White azapple.com> writes: > > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 06:34 +, JB wrote: > > > > > > > You are largely irrelevant, somewhat absurd and probably best ignored - > > > sorry, I tried. > > > ... > > > > But you are not sure ..

Re: Occasional panel freeze under Fedora-16

2011-11-25 Thread JB
x as well as it was the only app active at the time, but with average number of tabs (less than 10), one youtube, etc. No proof of what's causing it as well - random occurrence, no dumps, no error messages in a log. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Occasional panel freeze under Fedora-16

2011-11-25 Thread JB
port and let the LXDE maintainer know about it. He will check things out and package them if approved. He made one substitution that I know of in a recent release so he is open to that provided all other things are OK. > ... JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread JB
r else you wish. When you finish you can leave by: # shutdown -Fr now or # exit On boot, this time stop as above once again and change that kernel boot option to: systemd.unit=multi-user.target which should bring you to non-GUI login. After that your system should be yours (debug

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-28 Thread JB
g of this distro. Restore meaning to "OS product" (as opposite to a "test system OS"). Say "yes" to UNIX (it is your friend), features that enhance (evolve) what is already there, embrace stability as a goal. Avanti ! But I am actually not here ... JB Opera &q

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-03 Thread JB
this or any discussion, > > your whimpers are laughable. I don't recall seeing you post on this list > before tonight. Are you a longtime Fedora user? Been using a different > name? > > Craig > You are a clueless troll. Educate yourself. JB -- users mailing list users@

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread JB
lick how will anyone logically deduce this and > try it ? Yep, that's the most sensible critique so far in this thread (after mine) - it almost matches "The Linus view of GNOME 3.2" ... > ... JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread JB
n it is a double whammy ! This is not only about programming and designing skills. Your mindset has been polluted by IT players, marketing, companies you work for, your peers. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
e "*kernel*3.1.1-1.fc16*" Now, reboot your system to your latest F16 kernel and see what happens. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorapro

Re: fedora 13 to 14

2011-12-06 Thread JB
up-tunnel ifdown-isdn ifup-aliases ifup-plip ifup-wireless $ cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain $ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*-eth0 ... Hope this will jump start you. There is plenty of official RH/Fedora docs and info on the Internet. JB -- us

Re: Major upgrade failure

2011-12-06 Thread JB
o a separate partition or elsewhere (cd-rw, for example). Why fight if you can start fresh ? In this upgrade path it is preferable. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
relabeling (potential interference/change to system state as described above, it may not even finish its job, and so I am stuck and unable to fix the system, now and possibly on next attempt as well). Do you see a problem here ? JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Major upgrade failure

2011-12-06 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 12/06/2011 12:39 PM, JB wrote: > > I think you should download and burn F16 live-cd (XFCE I guess is safest for > > you) and start with a clean install. > > Why? Wouldn't it be even better to create a kickstart file so that all

Re: Major upgrade failure

2011-12-06 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 12/06/2011 03:15 PM, JB wrote: > > That's why I suggested a clean start. > > Yes, I understand all of that, at least as well as you do. (Hint: I > started using computers in 1968, and Linux in 1998.) You still haven'

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
else you are in for a very fun ride with your > rescue operation... That may be true on the surface, but as I already stated there is a danger in selinux not finishing or getting stuck, altering system state to be "rescued" (investigated or fixed). > ... Y

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... To make my point clear. In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose of preserving the original troubled environment (machine state) and preventing any worsening of it until it can be investigated or fixed. So it seems a rescue mode shou

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread JB
Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > > > On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote: > > JB gmail.com> writes: > > > >> ... > > > > To make my point clear. > > > > In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose > &

Re: Can RedHat get-into an OS to determine an OS's intentional faults via the Net..?

2011-12-09 Thread JB
Ian Malone gmail.com> writes: > ... > I'm finding an email blacklist is useful for protecting my sanity. > 'Better the devil you know than the devil you don't". JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: tmpwatch

2011-12-11 Thread JB
ad of 30d where appropriate according to tmpwatch format. - add or create or modify a crontab file for a user to be run by cron cron(1), crontab(1) # ls -l /var/spool/cron # crontab -u jb -e < edit it by adding a job; see examples in crontab(5), e.g. SHELL=/bin/sh MAILTO=root #

Re: Fedora 16's Performance

2011-12-14 Thread JB
awrence Graves All things are workable but > don't all things work. gmail.com> > > I think we should consider outsourcing the Fedora project to our Chinese friends. They would know what to do ... :-) http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2011/12/12/chinas-

GNOME 3 Classic on the way

2011-12-22 Thread JB
Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-gnome2.html JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines

Re: GNOME 3 Classic on the way

2011-12-22 Thread JB
nt, me thinks (I hope it will attract even more users to them). JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Ha

Re: Script for testing all files on a drive ?

2011-12-23 Thread JB
into a text file for > further processing. > > What is the easiest way to do this ? > > Thanks What exactly is the output of 'stat' on a corrupted file (do not edit it) ? $ stat JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscri

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-23 Thread JB
ut. ... Try it with manual entry or /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron . JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-23 Thread JB
esent - anything lese unusual/dangerous to manipulate JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
ks good (see above) you can perform your installation once again with custom layout. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gu

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install?issue?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 22:28:20 PM +, JB wrote: > > > > Reboot to BIOS (F2 key): > > - restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart > > I had already tried before my first post everyt

Re: BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
BIOS if needed. You can boot thru F10 to cd/dvd drive, so it should be not a problem. Be careful not to interrupt such an update, also stable AC/DC and battery. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Understanding logwatch

2011-12-24 Thread JB
y a > network name, but a WINS server should have been queried, instead. > ... Explanation here as well. http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-43676.html JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
less for them and "updatedb" runs forever > on slow temporary mounts with a hughe amount of files > > > The place to prune /media is as under F14, that is by path and NOT by fs: # cat /etc/updatedb.conf-orig ... PRUNEPATHS = "/afs /media /net /sfs /tmp /udev /v

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
a (but not of /media/NETBSD_51) due to its path. CONCLUSION: Due to /media being a *generic* (top level) qualifier, having fs types as its sub-qualifiers when /media is actually populated (mounted), the updatedb should process PRUNEPATHS *before* PRUNEFS for it to work correctly. It is a bug, up

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote: > > Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media. > > Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent

Re: Why updatedb doesn't traverse my external HD?

2011-12-24 Thread JB
Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes: > ... > >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media. > >>> Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represent

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