Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/21/18 23:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:06 +0930, Tim via users wrote: >> There are >> programs that just don't terminate every time when I log out. Various >> system/desktop daemons, sometimes web browsers. > Possibly unrelated, but I sometimes - not always - find

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 22 May 2018, Ed Greshko sent: > FWIW, if you investigate a little I think you'd find that for every > user that logs-in for a GUI session there will be about 9+ processes > that are left running and remain running. It seems these processes > are then reused on subsequent log

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 07:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > There are programs that just don't terminate every time when I log > > > out. Various system/desktop daemons, sometimes web browsers. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Possibly unrelated, but I sometimes - not always - find that after

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 15:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/21/18 23:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:06 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > > There are > > > programs that just don't terminate every time when I log out. Various > > > system/desktop daemons, sometimes web b

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rex Dieter
Ed Greshko wrote: > I was considering asking on the KDE list if there is anyway to tell the > system to end all users processes after logout. Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: KillUserProcesses=yes -- Rex ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorapr

Is glibc busted?

2018-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
Just saw this confidence inspiring message go past during dnf update: Running scriptlet: glibc-2.27-8.fc28.i686 59/73 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.lnbjPP: line 5: /sbin/sln: No such file or directory ___ users mailing list -- users@l

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/22/18 19:28, Rex Dieter wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> I was considering asking on the KDE list if there is anyway to tell the >> system to end all users processes after logout. > Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: > > KillUserProcesses=yes > Thanks -- Conjecture is just a conclusion

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 May 2018 06:28:21 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote: > Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: > > KillUserProcesses=yes Does that get all the "user mode daemon" stuff that runs under the "/usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user" process? Those hanging around forever always seemed to make a reboot take foreve

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/22/18 20:26, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2018 06:28:21 -0500 > Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: >> >> KillUserProcesses=yes > Does that get all the "user mode daemon" stuff that runs under the > "/usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user" process? Well, like any good tec

localhost refuses connection

2018-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Leach
New fedora 28 install. What have I forgotten? root@puget[74]->mail -vv -s test root https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 May 2018 20:42:30 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Well, like any good tech, I just tried it and it did kill all of those.  No > traces of > the logged-out user remain. Cool. I'll have to configure my system with that. Of course I'll still need my reboot script to umount -l nfs filesystems

Re: Gnome keyring and ssh passphrase

2018-05-22 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/21/2018 06:37 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > >> I was in Mate up to some days ago and the ssh passphrase was in need to >> be inserted only once in mater-terminal, because I had this in my .bashrc >> (I think) >> >> export SSH_ASKPASS="

Re: localhost refuses connection

2018-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 May 2018 06:21:05 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > New fedora 28 install. What have I forgotten? I don't believe fedora installs any kind of mail daemon by default any longer, so perhaps you just don't have anything that can process mail on your system? I usually install postfix, but the

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 06:28 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > I was considering asking on the KDE list if there is anyway to tell the > > system to end all users processes after logout. > > Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: > > KillUserProcesses=yes I already have that set, a

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/22/18 19:12, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 15:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/21/18 23:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:06 +0930, Tim via users wrote: There are programs that just don't terminate every time when I log out. Variou

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 22 May 2018, Tom Horsley sent: > Of course I'll still need my reboot script to umount -l nfs > filesystems to keep systemd from spending 5 hours timing out trying > to talk to systems that have gone down :-). That's why I went with autofs, rather than fstab entries. They're

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/22/18 22:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 06:28 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> >>> I was considering asking on the KDE list if there is anyway to tell the >>> system to end all users processes after logout. >> Set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: >> >> K

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 23:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> So, those processes may potentially keep copies of libraries that have > >> been updated > >> and (guessing) clashes happen with new processes with new libraries. > > Yes, I'm aware of that. However 'tracer' supposed to detect this, > > eit

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 23:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/22/18 22:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 06:28 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > > > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was considering asking on the KDE list if there is anyway to tell the > > > > system to end a

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 09:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 23:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: So, those processes may potentially keep copies of libraries that have been updated and (guessing) clashes happen with new processes with new libraries. >>> Yes, I'm aware of th

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an > XFCE polkit error popup, which is singularly useless in telling you > anything you can troubleshoot with. Then, I had no access to the sound > hardware on my machine, nor

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-22 Thread Howard Howell
The guidelines quoted are also a bit dated. Modern charge controllers do a lot of control of the battery conditions based on temperature. If you look at your battery, you will see that there are 4 contacts. two are the charge current and two are to a temperature sensor. The charge controller mo

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Not sure if it is related. I've seen messages about /run/user/1000 directory not existing for a number of things in the message log. Have found that if I open a terminal and ssh into the same machine with the same user id, the directory is created and the error messages don't show up. Thought o

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > > On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > >> And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an >> XFCE polkit error popup, which is singularly useless in telling you >> anything you can troubleshoot wit

Open with ,or launching with dnfdragora package manager.

2018-05-22 Thread Ger van Dijck
Hi all, 1)When I try to install with dnf install a downloaded .rpm version I get the massage dnf client error occurred: g-io-error-quark: GDBus.Error.org.baseurl.DnfSustem.LockedErrors: dnf is locked by another application (36) 2)In some cases I get the message ""transaction build err

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 01:24 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >> >> On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an >>> XFCE polkit error popup, which is singularly useless in

Re: Open with ,or launching with dnfdragora package manager.

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 02:00 PM, Ger van Dijck wrote: > > Hi all, > > > 1)When I try to install with dnf install a downloaded .rpm version  I > get the massage dnf client error occurred: > > > g-io-error-quark: > > GDBus.Error.org.baseurl.DnfSustem.LockedErrors: > > dnf is locked by another applicati

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/18 04:24, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >> On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an >>> XFCE polkit error popup, which is singularly useless in telling

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/23/18 04:24, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: >>> And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an XFCE polkit er

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/18 06:45, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/22/2018 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/23/18 04:24, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > And I just had lightdm screw up royally.

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/22/2018 03:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/23/18 06:45, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 05/22/2018 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 05/23/18 04:24, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:56:25 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:

Re: Gnome keyring and ssh passphrase

2018-05-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/22/2018 06:41 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: Do you have number of bugzilla? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795699 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1568895 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

vsftpd stopped allow logins after fc28 upgrade

2018-05-22 Thread Todd Chester
Hi All, After upgrading to FC 28 from FC 27, my customer's vsftpd server stopped allowing ftp logins from anywhere. # systemctl status vsftpd shows it running and happy (I tried stopping and restarting several times) There is no complaining in # journalctl -f when I attempt to make a

Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)

2018-05-22 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:07:22 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/22/2018 03:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/23/18 06:45, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 05/22/2018 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/23/18 04:24, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/22/2018 10:32 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: