Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/30/2011 03:09 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/29/2011 10:07 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't play period but

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 > Craig White wrote: > > I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think > you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome a broad range of users. I have not problem with e

[389-users] How to debug the 389 ds

2011-12-30 Thread 馬小布
Hi, guys: When I installed the 389 ds on Fedora 15 x64 via the rpm, but when I start the admin console , the screen did not display the login name . That's to say, it did not display the UserID and Password and Administration URL . The 389 console version is 1.1.7.1, and java version is 1.6.0

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread antonio montagnani
nomnex ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 30/12/2011 10:00: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig White wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is th

Re: F16 clean install issues.

2011-12-30 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 29 Dec 2011 at 15:27, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: From: "Michael D. Setzer II" To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:27:12 +1000 Subject:F16 clean install issues. Priority: normal > Ha

F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread mike cloaked
I know that recently some folk have posted of bad experiences with f16 - however I am running f16 on 6 machines (4 laptops and 2 desktops) with 4 x86_64 and 2 i686 - and all are now stable, and running with a responsive and crisp xfce desktop. I can do everything that I need to do, and one of the

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
+1 Em 30-12-2011 06:34, mike cloaked escreveu: > I know that recently some folk have posted of bad experiences with f16 > - however I am running f16 on 6 machines (4 laptops and 2 desktops) > with 4 x86_64 and 2 i686 - and all are now stable, and running with a > responsive and crisp xfce desktop.

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
+1 I love F16, it is the most stable and enjoyable release I have run to date, and I have been running since F8. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas < aa.luce...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > Em 30-12-2011 06:34, mike cloaked escreveu: > > I know that recently some folk have p

Re: "F14 is EOL, so why report something for a version of Fedora that is no longer maintained?.."

2011-12-30 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
What desktop manager are you running, if I may ask? On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: > Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora.. > > From: >"Patrick Lists" [Add] > To: >"Community support for Fedora users" > Date: >Wed, 28 Dec 2011 3:13 PM (23 hours

Re: "F14 is EOL, so why report something for a version of Fedora that is no longer maintained?.."

2011-12-30 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Environment, not manager. Typo. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Christopher Svanefalk < christopher.svanef...@gmail.com> wrote: > What desktop manager are you running, if I may ask? > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Linda McLeod > wrote: > >> Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up F

Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora..

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/30/2011 01:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > This will cause F16 to become unresponsive as well. Not sure if this is > an indication, but Fedora is at 0.10.1 of shotwell. openSUSE is at > 0.11.5 and doesn't have this problem. FWIW, I compiled and ran shotwell 0.11.6 on an F15 system and the probl

p21p1 is down after reboot

2011-12-30 Thread Hiisi
Hi, list. I've deleted NetworkManager and created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 with following content: DEVICE=p21p1 TYPE=inet ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp #IPADDR=10.7.0.200 #NETMASK=255.255.255.0 #NETWORK=10.7.0.0 #BROADCAST=10.7.0.1 NAME=p21p1 BRIDGE=br0 Whenever I reboot this system

Re: p21p1 is down after reboot

2011-12-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.12.2011 13:26, schrieb Hiisi: > Hi, list. > I've deleted NetworkManager and created > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 with following content: > DEVICE=p21p1 > TYPE=inet > ONBOOT=yes > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > #IPADDR=10.7.0.200 > #NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > #NETWORK=10.7.0.0 > #BROADCAST=10

Re: p21p1 is down after reboot

2011-12-30 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 15:26 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > Hi, list. > I've deleted NetworkManager and created > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 with following content: > DEVICE=p21p1 > TYPE=inet > ONBOOT=yes > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > #IPADDR=10.7.0.200 > #NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > #NETWORK=10.7.0.0 > #BR

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread John Austin
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 13:15 +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > +1 > > I love F16, it is the most stable and enjoyable release I have run to > date, and I have been running since F8. > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas > wrote: > +1 > > Em 30-

Re: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus?

2011-12-30 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> I've googled for close to a week to > >> resolve this. I know that inserting a usb disk > (depending on > >> setup and version) causes a knock on effect by > calling dbus, > >> hal, and maybe more depending. But *how* does > nautilus (or > >> any other file manager system) find out that the >

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:34:01 + mike cloaked wrote: > responsive and crisp xfce desktop. I can do everything that I need to but u are not using gnome 3 :) m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 06:44 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: > > On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those > > that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a > > computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor sy

Re: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus?

2011-12-30 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 23:00, Antonio Olivares wrote: I've googled for close to a week to resolve this. I know that inserting a usb disk (depending on setup and version) causes a knock on effect by calling dbus, hal, and maybe more depending. But *how* does nautilus (or any other file manager system)

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 18:00 +1100, Nermin Celik wrote: > Just looking at System Monitor > Resources > , it shows that CPU1 and > CPU2 > are 100% used, although l'm not running any programs. Hence it seems > that > my computer hardware is not compatible with F16 (default). Do you > agree? Unlikely,

Re: F16 - a good experience - except Zenbook trackpad + couple of other things

2011-12-30 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:41:58 -0500 From: Lucélio Gomes de Freitas To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: F16 - a good experience Message-ID: <4efdcdb6.4010...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 Em 30-12-2011 06:34, mike cloaked escreveu: I know t

Re: p21p1 is down after reboot

2011-12-30 Thread Hiisi
On 30 December 2011 16:31, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > did you enable network.service: > systemctl enable network.service > Thank you, Reindl and Louis. Guys, you did it! And I'm feeling dumb. What a shame! sudo systemctl enable network.service network.service is not a native service, redirecting to

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-30 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 12/29/2011 11:30 AM, Alan Cox wrote: which disk the initial load occurred from? I did run dmidecode and found nothing of value. dmidecode is the wrong interface. EDD provides the drive to BIOS mapping tables, DMI provides static configuration data. Your two hard drives are otherwise (I pr

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-30 Thread Alan Cox
> Agreed. But you have to *know* the drive serial number or UUID to do > that. And there is, of course, a high probability that you will not have > that information available. It's in procfs, sysfs, ioctls and via dmesg. It's not hard to get at ! and if you are doing it in advance you can also u

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread paul van der meij
Installation was fine, also extra installed packages via rpmfusion OK. However 2 remarks. - upgrade from F14 to F16 seems to work but is not perfekt in cleaning up old packages (I think this is not an intended upgrade path, but anyway) - selecting of test-updates is not flawless, there are some pac

Trouble with Burning Video DVD's

2011-12-30 Thread Charlie McVeigh
Not a Fedora problem exactly, but I am asking here anyways because there are so many people smarter than me on this board. I am using Fedora 14 as I describe my situation below. I created a photo sideshow using Imagination and rendered it as a .vob file such that it is suitable for a video DVD. Us

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/12/11 15:10, Alan Cox wrote: Agreed. But you have to *know* the drive serial number or UUID to do that. And there is, of course, a high probability that you will not have that information available. It's in procfs, sysfs, ioctls and via dmesg. It's not hard to get at ! and if you are doin

Re: Trouble with Burning Video DVD's

2011-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/12/11 15:13, Charlie McVeigh wrote: Lastly I used K3b to burn the .iso image to a DVD+R disk. This could be the problem. Retry with a DVD-R, they are better supported iirc. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote: Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when they definitely have their wires crossed. I solved that by advising my sister she should get a MacBook :) She could be

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Disabling adons has the same behavior as not disabling them. > > I can change the home page to Google and when firefox restarts it is > > still Google. However if I shut the machine down Bing is b

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 22:53 +, g wrote: > On 12/29/2011 09:36 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > > On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> Disabling adons has the same behavior as not disabling them. > > <> > > > Not sure if this is related but have you tried clicking in the search > > box on

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 07:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > [...] > >>> Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar. > >> > >> No idea there. > > > > Haven't checked yet to see if that's fixed. > > As Aaron indicates, Gnome i

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 17:35, Aaron Konstam wrote: Not sure if this is related but have you tried clicking in the search box on the logo/drop down arrow and then click on "Manage Search Engines"? Bing is mentioned there. Perhaps you could try to click on "Restore Defaults" or just remove Bing and everything

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 10:00, nomnex wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig White wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome a broad range of users

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 11:34 +, mike cloaked wrote: > I know that recently some folk have posted of bad experiences with f16 > - however I am running f16 on 6 machines (4 laptops and 2 desktops) > with 4 x86_64 and 2 i686 - and all are now stable, and running with a > responsive and crisp xfce

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 12:34, mike cloaked wrote: I know that recently some folk have posted of bad experiences with f16 - however I am running f16 on 6 machines (4 laptops and 2 desktops) with 4 x86_64 and 2 i686 - and all are now stable, and running with a responsive and crisp xfce desktop. I can do ever

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
2011/12/30 夜神 岩男 : > It should, but it doesn't. It only copies the first 9MB which, on checking, > copied the previews and ads from Disney (which were almost more annoying > than this problem in the first place). > > The way I usually do this is with brasero, just right-clicking and let it do > the

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/31/2011 01:56 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: 2011/12/30 夜神 岩男: It should, but it doesn't. It only copies the first 9MB which, on checking, copied the previews and ads from Disney (which were almost more annoying than this problem in the first place). The way I usually do this is with brase

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 09:02, 夜神 岩男 wrote: Any ideas? What happens if you use dd if=/dev/sr0 of=dvd.iso That should ignore the file system and just copy block for block. It should, but it doesn't. It only copies the first 9MB which, on checking, copied the previews and ads from Disney (which were almo

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread David
On 12/30/2011 11:35 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: >> On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> >> Not sure if this is related but have you tried clicking in the search >> box on the logo/drop down arrow and then click on "Manage Search >> Eng

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 04:42 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: <> > Have you tried stopping Firefox, renaming your Firefox profile and start > Firefox again to see if the problem persists? I think you could try that > with these steps after you have quit Firefox: -=- this is a good procedure and will show proble

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: <> > No bing search plugin is present. if you follow what Patrick suggested and find that problem is in your profile, you can use new profile and rebuild or... ok. now the 'long part'. with firefox closed, open a file browser, move to your firefox p

Re: [389-users] entryDN attribute

2011-12-30 Thread Rich Megginson
On 12/23/2011 01:57 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: Hi, The entryDN OID from the 389 schema (back-ldbm.h:#define LDBM_ENTRYDN_OID "2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.602") is different from that defined by RFC5020 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5020, "Object Identifier: 1.3.6.1.1.20"). Is it an intended differe

Re: [389-users] Adding an index: how is this achieved?

2011-12-30 Thread Rich Megginson
On 12/28/2011 02:18 PM, Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to add an index, and am currently epically failing at doing so. The only documentation I can find is the obsolete Why is it obsolete? Redhat Directory Server guide at http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server

Re: [389-users] How to debug the 389 ds

2011-12-30 Thread Rich Megginson
On 12/30/2011 02:05 AM, 馬小布 wrote: Hi, guys: When I installed the 389 ds on Fedora 15 x64 via the rpm, but when I start the admin console , the screen did not display the login name . How is it supposed to know the login name? That's to say, it did not display the UserID and Password a

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 10:31, antonio montagnani wrote: in this list a bunch of talebans (a list is easy to be prepared) think to have the truth and of course the right to say what is right and what is wrong. Wow a semi-Godwin. With the atrocities that the Taliban have inflicted upon many innocent men, w

Mybe OT? Grub2 themes

2011-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
I came across this for a good document on the grub2 stuff: http://www.4shared.com/file/lFCl6wxL/grub_guidetar.html Hope it's not too off topic. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subsc

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste everybody's tim

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. Doesn't it bother anybody else here that many people have to use a bunch of third-party extensions and mimic the way Gnome 2 wor

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:43:30 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees > wrote: > > [...] > >>> Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar. > >> > >> No idea there. > > > > Haven't checked yet to see if that's fixed. > > As Aaron indicates, Gnom

Re: Trouble with Burning Video DVD's

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 16:30, Frank Murphy wrote: On 30/12/11 15:13, Charlie McVeigh wrote: Lastly I used K3b to burn the .iso image to a DVD+R disk. This could be the problem. Retry with a DVD-R, they are better supported iirc. I recall having the same experience with DVD+R not working everywhere. A

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 12/30/2011 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. +1 Doesn't it bother anybody else here that many people have to use a bunch of third-p

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 30, 2011 11:00 AM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > > On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: >> >> Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on >> extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. > > > Doesn't it bother anybody else here that many people have to use a bu

Re: File copy errors on EXT4 SSD but fsck says its clean ????

2011-12-30 Thread linux guy
That is what I though, when I read it during the session. Thanks for confirming that I had it right the first time. Update: the drive went back to Intel this week. They are sending me a new replacement. The service rep was telling me all about the 1.2 million hour MTBF spec as we completed th

Re: Implementing a "sometimes" RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)

2011-12-30 Thread linux guy
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > A 17" laptop cuts an awfully large profile.   Are you sure there aren't two > SATA bays? My XPS 17 will have 2 SATA bays. One for the SSD with the OS and the other for a conventional HD with my data.I want to back both of these drives u

Re: OT: How much RAM should I get in a new laptop ?

2011-12-30 Thread linux guy
Update. After a bunch of order tuning, I ordered my XPS 17 with the 3D screen (which got me 4 DIMM slots) and 16GB of RAM. Yes, 16 GB. I don't feel I need that much right now, but as a package, it was cheap to add it. Not to advertise for Dell, but the complete system (i7, BD player, 16 GB, 3D

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/30/2011 07:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. Doesn't it bother anybody else here that many people have to use a bunch of third-party

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 10:42 AM, Pete Travis wrote: But! Have you looked at extensions.gnome.org ? No. As I've said here several times, when I found out what Gnome 3 was going to be like I migrated to XFCE and have no desire to go back again. As such, I'm on the outside

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/31/2011 03:25 AM, Roger K. Wells wrote: On 12/30/2011 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. +1 Doesn't it bother anybody else here

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Nermin Celik
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 18:00 +1100, Nermin Celik wrote: > > Just looking at System Monitor > Resources > , it shows that CPU1 and > > CPU2 > > are 100% used, although l'm not running any programs. Hence it seems > > that > > my computer

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 12:24 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: 1947 nermin20 0 12912 656 448 S 90.0 0.0 796:13.37 speech-dispatch 1935 nermin20 0 84488 20m 11m R85.4 0.6 798:50.77 python There's your culprit. I don't know what nermin is, but it's taking up almost

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 12:24 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: > >> 1947 nermin20 0 12912 656 448 S 90.0 0.0 >> 796:13.37 speech-dispatch >> 1935 nermin20 0 84488 20m 11m R85.4 0.6 >> 798:50.77 python >> > > There's y

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Nermin Celik
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 12:24 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: > >> 1947 nermin20 0 12912 656 448 S 90.0 0.0 >> 796:13.37 speech-dispatch >> 1935 nermin20 0 84488 20m 11m R85.4 0.6 >> 798:50.77 python >> > > There's yo

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 12:49 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: Joe, nermin is me the user. Well, you are taking up all of the CPU time, aren't you? Seriously, whatever those two processes are is what's wrong. And, it's probably best not to start out blaming your hardware for slowdowns instead of checking for

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Nermin Celik
> > > Try killing speech-dispatch and see what happens? > > It may be a bad install.. > > You could remove it and reinstall > > 1.I killed the speech-dispatch and also the python. CPU usage went to normal level. 2. Restarted the computer and CPU usage was normal. However the screen froze in both i

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > Still, it makes me wonder. > I wonder what Red Hat will do with it in RHEL? > In the shape Gnome 3 is currently in Fedora (comprising > Fedora 16), it doesn't have any future in the commercial > world, IMO. > > Ralf > > -- users mailing list The future is always uncertain. How many devices(

Preupgrade: Anaconda can't find upgrade root?

2011-12-30 Thread Richard Shaw
I tried using preupgrade to upgrade my F15 64bit to F16 and ran into an issue with anaconda. It gave me a somewhat confusion error: https://plus.google.com/photos/112912133662927916698/albums/5692032713007961425?authkey=CJmNmIWD6M7WHQ Or, if you want to skip the picture link: --- Title: Upgrade

Re: F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-30 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: > >> Try killing speech-dispatch and see what happens? >> >> It may be a bad install.. >> >> You could remove it and reinstall >> >> > 1.I killed the speech-dispatch and also the python. CPU usage went to > normal level. > 2. Restarted the comp

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 12:20 -0500, David wrote: > On 12/30/2011 11:35 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > >> On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> > >> Not sure if this is related but have you tried clicking in the search > >> box on the

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 01:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: There is no browser.startup.homepage inabout:config Try creating it then. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fed

Re: F16 - a good experience - except Zenbook trackpad + couple of other things

2011-12-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: > +1 from me too but has anyone got a solution to the Zenbook trackpad > hassles? (I am using XFCE) out and also: > What particular issues are you having with the trackpad - I don't have that particular machine but I have startup commands to

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:26 +, g wrote: > On 12/30/2011 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > <> > > > No bing search plugin is present. > > if you follow what Patrick suggested and find that problem is in your > profile, you can use new profile and rebuild or... > > ok. now the 'long part'. >

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread Kevin Martin
On 12/30/2011 04:05 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:26 +, g wrote: >> On 12/30/2011 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> <> >> >>> No bing search plugin is present. >> if you follow what Patrick suggested and find that problem is in your >> profile, you can use new profile a

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 10:05 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: <> > Let us be clear. You want me to cd to .mozilla/firefox/o8u6238s.default. > o8u6238s.default is the name of my default file. -=- o8u6238s.default is your _profile_ directory. > Then run: grep bing * > bing.out > > That returns a file with 4 lin

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 09:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 01:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> There is no browser.startup.homepage inabout:config > > Try creating it then. -=- if not there, you need to create it. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are dele

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 10:33 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: <> > if that was "grep -l bing *" then you would get a list of the files that > have the word bing in them and you *might* be able to work with that (like > delete unnecessary files or edit them if there are ascii). -=- from 'man grep' +++ -l, --file

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 30, 2011 12:59 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > > On 12/30/2011 10:42 AM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> But! Have you looked at extensions.gnome.org ? > > > No. fnord (I like that one!) Please, humor me, try it. Log into a gnome session, pop open a few windows, and point F

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-30 Thread g
On 12/30/2011 10:47 PM, g wrote: > On 12/30/2011 09:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 12/30/2011 01:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> There is no browser.startup.homepage inabout:config >> Try creating it then. > -=- > > if not there, you need to create it. -=- if you are not familiar with how to creat

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 09:50 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: > > I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's > > time for them to leave. > > No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that > have nothing to do wit

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 03:25 PM, Pete Travis wrote: your reply suggests I didn't clearly communicate the concept of extensible behavior sets (my words). I understand what you're getting at. What you don't seem to understand is that I've only logged into the Gnome Shell by accident, I didn't like what

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see as much the same thing. I'm sorry that you feel that way, Craig. Please note, however, that I always make it very clear that these are the reasons that I personally don't use it

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/2011 01:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have > nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste > everybody's time. Not only that, she keeps dumping her issues into > other threads, hijacking them and, again, wastin

change existing RAID10 to "far layout"

2011-12-30 Thread Reindl Harald
>> for better performance you could use RAID10 in the far layout instead >> (raid10,f2), >> this is a direct replacement with the enhanced raid10 driver, which gives >> double >> the sequential read speed compared to raid1. Use "--level=10 -p f2" as >> additional >> parameters when creating arra

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how >> to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when >> they definitely have their wires crossed. > > I solved t

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@l

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:20 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I don't really care. Her questions do touch on a lot of the most difficult usability (Stupid spell checker reminding me that "useability" is not standard spelling. Yes, lateral thinking runs pretty strong in my family.) issues. If Linda were willing and

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >> I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's >> time for them to leave. > > > No.  Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have > nothing to do wit

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 09:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread > > "Ironic" It's like rain on your wedding day It's a free ride when you've already paid It's the good advice that you just didn't take Who would've thought... it fig

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a good thing and not the way to do backup, but it does help us think a bit about the edge cases we want to ignore. And t

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, > > well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a > > good thing and not the way to do backup, but it does help

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:10:37 +0100, PVDM (paul) wrote: > Installation was fine, also extra installed packages via rpmfusion OK. > However 2 remarks. > - upgrade from F14 to F16 seems to work but is not perfekt in cleaning up > old packages (I think this is not an intended upgrade path, but anyway)

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 16:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: > > I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see > > as much the same thing. > > I'm sorry that you feel that way, Craig. Please note, however, that I > always make it very

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:43:30 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees >> wrote: >> > [...] >> >>> Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar. >> >> >> >> No idea there. >> > >> > Haven't

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread scott
On 12/30/2011 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) And I thought the NANOG list could get fun to read at times. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 31-12-11 02:46, Craig White wrote: Are Patrick Lists and Patrick O'Callaghan one and the same? Nope. A quick look at the email headers from both our emails to the list will show you we are worlds apart. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Gary Waters
On 12/30/2011 08:55 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a good thing and not the w

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 30, 2011 5:04 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > > On 12/30/2011 03:25 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> your reply suggests I didn't clearly communicate the concept of >> extensible behavior sets (my words). > > > I understand what you're getting at. What you don't seem to understand is that I've only lo

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/2011 10:38 AM, Gary Waters wrote: > I know this is going to seem to be a dumb question, but who is/are the > modertor(s) of this list? 1) I'm curious. 2) He/she/they must have > nerves of steel and must be patient beyond all imagination. This is an un-moderated list. A "moderated" list

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Gary Waters
On 12/30/2011 09:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/31/2011 10:38 AM, Gary Waters wrote: I know this is going to seem to be a dumb question, but who is/are the modertor(s) of this list? 1) I'm curious. 2) He/she/they must have nerves of steel and must be patient beyond all imagination. This is an

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Roger
On 31/12/11 12:25, Ed Greshko wrote: There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) 2 words Boring and yuck. :|\ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

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