M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes:
> ...
> Also, what do you mean by "erase the disk completely"? SHould I run dd
> or something from the live CD?
> ...
When you start fresh with a new system/component like a hard disk, it is proper
to firstly format it *entirely* - right at the very beginning fr
M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes:
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 22:28:20 PM +, JB wrote:
> >
> > Reboot to BIOS (F2 key):
> > - restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart
>
> I had already tried before my first post everything you wrote up to
> this point:
>
> > Seria
Christopher Svanefalk writes:
>I just wondered if anyone here has had any experience in using SSDs in
>general, and with Fedora in particular? I am thinking about an upgrade,
>but I am uncertain whether it is worth it to invest in an SSD now, or
>let the technology ripen for a few
On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Friday 23 December 2011 10:49:57 jdow wrote:
On 2011/12/23 08:57, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/23/2011 12:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Also, give it time...
How much? We're still waiting for signs of major mutations from
Hiroshima and Nagasaki to sh
M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes:
> ...
> It is that, in a nutshell, the BIOS doesn't _remember_ that I had hit
> F2, told it to boot from the hard drive first and "saved" that
> setting.
Just a guess, every BIOS is different.
Go to it (F2) and find the menue dealing with system protection: boot
On 12/23/2011 11:34 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
That's not exactly true. The radiation is quite easy to measure, and there is
no need for increased sensitivity of the detectors.
It all depends on which radiation you're talking about. There was talk
in the early days after the quake and tsunami
On 12/24/2011 12:26 AM, JB wrote:
In BIOS, write down the date of your BIOS.
I don't know if it's still true, but shift-Print Screen used to work
from the BIOS setup program, just as it did in DOS. It's worth trying,
and if it works you end up with a complete hard copy of your setup that
c
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:41 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> yum update + reboot <= 50min
>
> I have machines updated from F13,
> my last clean install.
I didn't time the updates, but while waiting for my mother's old PC to
boot up Windows 2000 and get her mail (all of about 4 small emails), I
did a
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 09:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> dark terminal backgrounds are good for novelty but not good for
> actually using on a semi-continual basis.
Can't say that I agree with that, because I believe the opposite. On
CRT and LCDs, I find brightish text on black backgrounds easier
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 08:23 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> I have scotch building from a source RPM with minimal rpmlint output
> (at least what I can personally fix).
You're making open source booze? ;-)
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On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 19:55 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 09:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > dark terminal backgrounds are good for novelty but not good for
> > actually using on a semi-continual basis.
>
> Can't say that I agree with that, because I believe the opposite. On
> CRT an
Returning to the topic,
Regarding radiation and ssd,
The only place i would seriously advise not to use ssd's is in satelites. As
cosmic rediation has serious effect on even hard backed rom's and dynamic
mem
So unless you've booked a trip at virgin, or planned to stay at the ISS, you're
pro
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 12:24 +0530, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote:
> Correct, I did ask in the Ubuntu lists too, but please: for a while
> think of the time when you too were an absolute beginner and finding
> your way typical of chosing the correct distribution and then start
> working for it! Its ty
Am 24.12.2011 10:49, schrieb Craig White:
> considering that blue is the default colorization for directories in ls,
> then using a black background for your terminal means that you are going
> to either have difficulty (and do your best to defeat colorization) or
> customize it.
really?
i had
On 12/23/2011 04:56 PM, John Mellor wrote:
> you should
> be aware that each stick of RAM will cost you an extra 11-13 watts
That appears really a lot. Are you sure this is the case for laptops?
Any reference?
I've seen a few years ago laptops running with less than 9W, all
included (CPU, GPU, H
On 23.12.2011, M. Fioretti wrote:
[]
If this is a laptop, you must have some kind of "entry-key" to get
full access to the bios settings. If you can't permanently change
the boot drive from within there, you have two possibilities left:
1. Get a bios update, flash it and see if things have
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 18:04:50 PM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> we just installed Fedora 16 x86_64 KDE spin on an Intel DH61CR board,
> from the live CD. New computer, no other OS is installed.
> The live CD worked fine, no problem with the installation. However,
> ...
> if I press
I skip through logwatch on a couple of machines each day,
to see if any disasters have occurred.
But I don't really understand many of the entries,
or rather their significance.
Eg today:
- iptables firewall Begin
Dropped 6 packets on interface eth0
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 08:23 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
>>
>> I have scotch building from a source RPM with minimal rpmlint output
>> (at least what I can personally fix).
>
> You're making open source booze? ;-)
Why not? :)
I didn't name it :) I'm n
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 02:49 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> considering that blue is the default colorization for directories in
> ls, then using a black background for your terminal means that you are
> going to either have difficulty (and do your best to defeat
> colorization) or customize it.
I've
I'm working on upgrading my classroom lab from Fedora 14 to 16
and doing a test on one system. Most things have gone ok with a
few issues.
1. X11 didn't come up after the upgrade from dvd, but deleting
xorg.conf fixed that.
2. Running yum update afterwards would found over 400 updates,
but it
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 12:50 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> - iptables firewall Begin
>
> Dropped 6 packets on interface eth0
>From 87.230.101.22 - 1 packet to tcp(25)
>From 124.229.7.16 - 3 packets to tcp(25)
>From 190.2.0.221 - 2 packets
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 11:31 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> really?
>
> i had several operations on my eyes from 2006 until now, currently
> only the left eye is able to recognize anything on a screen with
> only 80% or a healthy person and i have no problems with it
>
> so you better should cons
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:25 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> if you hadn't heard of OpenFoam, you had the option of ignoring the
> post, or doing a quick check to find out what it was about (as I said,
> it took me three seconds) - what's the point of a long thread
> castigating the OP???
It's general
I meet some problems with the network.
I double why offer two methods to do the networking.
My problems inline.
2011/12/7 JB :
> Patrick Dupre york.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> ...
>> service NetworkManager restart
>> Stopping NetworkManager daemon:[FAILED]
>> Setting network p
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:01 AM, g wrote:
> the fedora vs suse vs ubuntu troll is back. new name. same game.
I really didn't understand if you are mis understanding something?
Which new name and which same game?
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On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 22:59 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 23.12.2011 22:52, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
> >>> I guess I am thick because I can't understand the explanation in the web
> >>> page above. An example or two might have helped.
> >>
> >> you need to understand what SETUID and CAPABILITI
On Saturday 24 December 2011 01:13:56 Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/23/2011 11:34 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > That's not exactly true. The radiation is quite easy to measure, and
> > there is no need for increased sensitivity of the detectors.
>
> It all depends on which radiation you're talking abou
Tim yahoo.com.au> writes:
> ...
> > **Unmatched Entries**
> > nmbd/nmbd_incomingrequests.c:process_name_refresh_request(173)
> > Error - should be sent to WINS server : 564 Time(s)
> ...
> The error tells you that something is trying to ask it to identify a
> network name, but a WINS ser
To all:
I was able to fire up one of my backup machine (32 bit F14) and, via a
ssh from cygwin, could see that a directory I had created under cygwin
had protections of "drwxrwxrwx". It displayed as "black" on a mid-level
green (aka totally unreadable). I ran "chmod go-w " and then did
anothe
Am 24.12.2011 16:30, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 22:59 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 23.12.2011 22:52, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
> I guess I am thick because I can't understand the explanation in the web
> page above. An example or two might have helped.
On Saturday 24 December 2011 00:13:34 jdow wrote:
> On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > I'd say that uncontrolled nuclear pollution is the single most
> > irresponsible thing that humans could ever do to this planet (bar a
> > global thermonuclear war). Oil spills, CO2 emmision and othe
On Friday 23 December 2011 17:12:35 JB wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> --debug-pruning
> Write debugging information about pruning decisions to
> standard error output.
>
> Try it with manual entry or /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron .
Thanks for the suggesti
On 12/25/2011 01:51 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2011 00:13:34 jdow wrote:
On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
I'd say that uncontrolled nuclear pollution is the single most
irresponsible thing that humans could ever do to this planet (bar a
global thermonuclear wa
looking at the output of the mount command on F16, it lists tmpfs on
/media. This is different from F14 and Gentoo, where /media is a regular
directory.
Look for the start up stuff that makes the mount and disable it, then
/media will just be a directory. However, the USB subsystem may not
p
On Sunday 25 December 2011 02:20:48 夜神 岩男 wrote:
> Going on vacation to Hiroshima next month. Planning on taking the wife
> and kids. Anything special I should be worried about?
Not that I know of.
AFAIK, the WW2 bomb residues have been cleaned up pretty thoroughly years ago,
in both Hiroshima a
On Saturday 24 December 2011 12:44:58 G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> looking at the output of the mount command on F16, it lists tmpfs on
> /media. This is different from F14 and Gentoo, where /media is a regular
> directory.
Thanks for pointing this out! :-) Indeed, /media is explicitly mounted, rathe
Am 24.12.2011 19:58, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
> (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want /media
> to
> be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know I could
> reconfigure the /lib/systemd/system/media.mount, but that would probably be
> overwritten o
On 12/24/2011 09:20 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote:
Going on vacation to Hiroshima next month. Planning on taking the wife
and kids. Anything special I should be worried about?
Be sure to visit Peace Park. If it's anything like what I saw when I
visited Nagasaki's Peace Park, it's a beautiful place. In Na
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Michael D. Setzer II
wrote:
> I'm working on upgrading my classroom lab from Fedora 14 to 16
> and doing a test on one system. Most things have gone ok with a
> few issues.
>
> 1. X11 didn't come up after the upgrade from dvd, but deleting
> xorg.conf fixed that.
>
Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes:
>
>
> Am 24.12.2011 19:58, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
> > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want
> > /media to
> > be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know I could
> > reconfigure the /lib/systemd/system/medi
On 12/24/2011 06:45 AM, Tim wrote:
We're mostly sensitive to green, then red,
then blue.
Not quite, AIUI. The wavelength the human eye is most sensitive to is
in the "greenish yellow" range, much more yellow than green.
Considering that the Sun is a yellow dwarf, it's much more likely for us
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB wrote:
> Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
> storage device", and certainly NOT "volatile memory" (e.g. of type shm).
>
> I think systemd devs need to
On 12/25/2011 12:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want /media
> to
> be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know I could
> reconfigure the /lib/systemd/system/media.mount, but that would probably be
> overwritten o
Original Message
Subject: UEFI and GPT
From:mike@localhost
Date:Sat, December 24, 2011 8:42 pm
To: us...@list.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/24/2011 12:39 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
/media is on tmpfs simply because it's faster to keep the mountpoints
in memory than on disk.
Thanx! That explains something I was wondering about. I'm trying to
troubleshoot an issue with mounting flash drives on my desktop and found
myself
On 12/25/2011 02:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 12:39 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
>> /media is on tmpfs simply because it's faster to keep the mountpoints
>> in memory than on disk.
>
> Thanx! That explains something I was wondering about. I'm trying to
> troubleshoot an issue with mou
On 12/24/2011 2:06 AM, Craig White wrote:
[...]
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[...]
Craig
Long read but good read ... plus a helping of "opps" for my various faux
pas ...
Thanks for the link,
Paul
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On 12/24/2011 12:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
/mnt is better for that purpose
At the time, I was trying to mimic the default behavior as closely as
possible. In the future, if I need to create persistent mount points,
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On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 13:39 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB wrote:
> > Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> > Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
> > storage device", and certainly NOT
Recently, I learned that you can now boot Fedora through grub2 without
an inetrd line. In fact, it will boot quicker. If you do, however,
grub2-probe, called from grub2-mkconfig will fail with the message
"cannot stat /dev/root" and any new kernel you've installed won't get
added to /boot/gru
Am 24.12.2011 21:21, schrieb JB:
> Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes:
>
>> Am 24.12.2011 19:58, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
>>> (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want
>>> /media to
>>> be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know I could
>>> reconf
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> `/media', type `tmpfs'
> => type matches, dir `/media'
> ...done
> Skipping `/media': in prunefs
>
>
> I am not sure how to read this, but it appears that /media somehow matches
> the
> tmpfs, which gets excluded. So now I have three questions:
>
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> People keep saying that /media is mounted on tmpfs, but what the mount
> tells me is that tmpfs is mounted on /media. Which sounds screwy to me.
tmpfs is a filesystem type, like ext4. Because it's not associated
with a device, the filesyste
T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> > Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
> > storage device", and certainly NOT "volatil
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 20:43 -0600, m...@miketc.net wrote:
> -
> New computer today and trying to install F16 on it. Seems it has UEFI,
> and when trying to install, during partitioning, get error about not gpt
> disklabel and think saw one bout stage1 . I see /boot and /boot/efi mount
> points to
Am 24.12.2011 23:07, schrieb JB:
> T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
>>> Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
>>> storag
Am 24.12.2011 23:03, schrieb JB:
> I was wondering about this:
> updatedb.conf(5)
> ...
> PRUNE_BIND_MOUNTS
> One of the strings 0, no, 1 or yes. If PRUNE_BIND_MOUNTS is 1
> or yes, bind mounts are not scanned by updatedb(8). All file
> syste
Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes:
> ...
> >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> >>> Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
> >>> storage device", and certainly
Am 24.12.2011 23:31, schrieb JB:
> You are a clueless TROLL.
if you definition of a troll is peopole
knowing more like you - maybe
> Practice your Linux in your neck of the woods, but do not pretend to
> understand UNIX and its development.
i started use unix-systems at times where you was run
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 20:42 -0600, mike@localhost wrote:
Got F16 installed and so far so good. Now, it did NOT detect, or at
least added my Windows (first OS on 1st HD) to my grub. I tried
manually but something bout no EFI selection.
Is there something specific have to do, to get grub to recog
On 12/24/2011 09:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
<>
> I know that all I need to do is use dracut to create the proper
> initramfs, then edit grub.cfg, adding the initrd line to the appropriate
> place, but I'm having a bit of trouble locating the proper command line
> for dracut.
-=-
give this a try;
On Saturday 24 December 2011 13:33:57 T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want
> > /media to be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know
> > I could reconfigure the
On Saturday 24 December 2011 20:07:20 Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 24.12.2011 19:58, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
> > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration? I want
> > /media to be ext4, so that it doesn't get excluded by updatedb. I know
> > I could reconfigure the /lib/systemd/sys
On Sunday 25 December 2011 02:14:01 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 12/25/2011 12:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > (1) What is the proper place to customize this configuration?
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_customize_a_unit_file.2F_add
> _a_custom_unit_file.3F
Thanks for the lin
Am 25.12.2011 00:40, schrieb Marko Vojinovic:
>> /media is for temporary mounts and this design is OK
>> mount your drive somewhere else
>
> Why? This drive *is* a temporary mount, and the system is properly mounting
> it
> under /media. I see no reason to mount it anywhere else --- /media is
On 12/24/2011 03:37 PM, g wrote:
give this a try;
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut
The command lines I'd seen before were something more complex, using
uname -r to put the right version into place, but a little copy/paste
works too. I don't know why it is, but I can never find things
I am in the process of setting up a router/file server using F16. I
would like have the boot messages go to the serial console.
How do you do that in F16?
It seems to use a different version of grub than other versions, and
what worked in F14 won't work in F16. I think. Or will it?
Thanks.
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Derek Tattersall wrote:
> I am in the process of setting up a router/file server using F16. I would
> like have the boot messages go to the serial console.
>
> How do you do that in F16?
>
> It seems to use a different version of grub than other versions, and what
On 12/25/2011 12:12 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 03:37 PM, g wrote:
>> give this a try;
>>
>>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut
>
> The command lines I'd seen before were something more complex, using
> uname -r to put the right version into place, but a little copy/paste
> works to
On 12/23/2011 05:13 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, linux guy wrote:
I'm specing a new laptop, probably a Dell XPS 17, with an i7
processor. It will have an SSD and be driving 2 monitors.
The XPS 17s come in two varieties, one with 2 DIMM slots and the other
with 4 DIMM slo
On 12/25/2011 01:51 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 05:38 PM, g wrote:
>> if i am following what you are wanting, the last link is what you want.
>
> As it turns out, the simplest example worked well enough for me to boot
> into a current kernel with an initrd line, run grub2-mkconfig and get
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I tried installing kdm and modifying /etc/sysconfig/desktop to use it, but X
> is still trying to use gdm. I'm not sure, but it might be because I was
> told to specify KDE, not KDM. However, I'm now getting a log file from gdm
> that contains t
On 12/24/2011 06:22 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
"KDE" is correct. My system has:
% cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
DESKTOP="KDE"
DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE"
A quick look at /etc/X11/prefdm verifies that's correct too.
Thanx. A quick check with yum revealed that I don't actually have kdm
installed, a
joe zeff,
i just now pick up 2 more 'grub2' links you might be interested in.
they where just now posted to thread;
Grub2 upgrade issue
by;
Michael D. Setzer
replied by;
T.C. Hollingsworth
You'll need to rewrite them for GRUB2. Arch Linux has an good
overview of writing custom GR
On 12/24/2011 06:59 PM, g wrote:
do not know it they will help you anymore, but they look interesting. ;)
Thank you. I'm hoping not to need them, but I'll hang onto this JIC.
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Got a new system today and got F16 up and running and it all seems to be
in order, cept my sound. It works in windows with no problems, but not
Fedora. Maybe not recognizing the drivers, or not being loaded or
something. Below it the spec for the machine...
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/do
On 12/25/2011 03:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 06:59 PM, g wrote:
>> do not know it they will help you anymore, but they look interesting. ;)
>
> Thank you. I'm hoping not to need them, but I'll hang onto this JIC.
-=-
welcome.
i have a bunch of 'jic', most, that i stated back in 80's
On 12/25/2011 10:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 06:22 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
>> "KDE" is correct. My system has:
>>
>> % cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
>> DESKTOP="KDE"
>> DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE"
>>
>> A quick look at /etc/X11/prefdm verifies that's correct too.
>
> Thanx. A quick check w
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Craig White wrote:
> There is no one correct distribution. If there was, we would all be
> using it or do you think we are so stupid we would deliberately choose
> not to use it?
Correct, I came to know this, thanks.
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On 12/24/2011 07:20 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
Got a new system today and got F16 up and running and it all seems to be
in order, cept my sound. It works in windows with no problems, but not
Fedora.
Check this thread, because one or more of the fixes might work for you:
http://forums.fedoraforu
I tried installing kdm and modifying /etc/sysconfig/desktop to use it,
but X is still trying to use gdm. I'm not sure, but it might be because
I was told to specify KDE, not KDM. However, I'm now getting a log file
from gdm that contains this:
gnome-session[1537]: ERROR: Unable to open '/etc
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