Re: About programing, a general question

On 16 December 2010 17:02, Parshwa Murdia wrote: If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean of > the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one justify it. > Some say Python but ag

Re: About programing, a general question

> In my opinion, if you really want to learn computing and its > intricacies, unforgiving C would be the place to start. > I also now (after community members suggestions) think so. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

Re: About programing, a general question

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Barry wrote: > The reason you have heard so many answers is because the question you > ask can represent so many different questions. If I understand you > correctly, you want to know about the machines and what they can do. > Programming languages are only a pa

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Mastering C essentially means mastering procedural programming in general. > The > two next conceptually different things you want to learn are > object-oriented > programming (say, C++), and functional programming (say, lisp or prolog). >

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: My first programming experience started with Coco-TRS80 basic. Then I > knew I will love computers. > > But as amazed as I was, I was hungry to learn the guts of programming. > Lucky me, I was introduced to the Norton Pink Shirt Boo

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: If you really want to learn the metal.. Assembly is the language to > learn. Then Bash, SED, and AWK. Good luck > > > Marvin > I would again say that: I have been away from the ocean of programing language, but (apart from my job) I am t

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:14 AM, James McKenzie wrote: I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the way to > learn how to program, no 'seat belts'. I have TWO copies of K&Rs book as > well as the 'C Puzzle Book'. > > James McKenzie Nice, but I would request if you have t

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM, James McKenzie wrote: COBOL is still very much in use in the financial industry and will > probably be so for years to come. It helped me out in my last job as I > was handed a print-out and found the problem in a matter of minutes. > Missing punctuation (period.)

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:07 AM, wrote: +100 > Amen! > Thanks. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mail

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/16/2010 07:42 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 16 December 2010 17:02:25 Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the >> programing, which programing language one should start with? > [snip] > > If you know *absolutely* *nothing* about

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Robert Myers wrote: I have K&R's book, too, and that's how I learned c, but I already knew > PL/I, Fortran, and, of course, Basic. I wouldn't recommend any of > those languages for a beginning programmer. I wouldn't recommend c++, > either. > That's okay, but

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Haxby wrote: C++ is worse. > I don't know but you only (the first person) who said me it is the worse! > If I was writing a beginning programming book I'd probably choose Java; if > I was teaching someone personally I'd probably choose Python. And once

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Frank Cox wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Primer-Plus-5th-Stephen-Prata/dp/0672326965 > > It's a series of lessons that starts with very basic programming concepts > and > builds from there. > > For learning about screen control, I recommend this book: > > > http://

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Hasn't python replaced BASIC? > /me ducks and hides for cover. > > Besides this, programming languages are "tools". This means, like > everywhere in real life, "no tool fits all needs", each is better or > less suitable for certain use-cases,

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > That said, I'd choose "C" to getting started. It's a bit of a rough ride > in the beginning, but it pays off in longer terms. > > Actually, no, C is dead easy to start but it gets really difficult really quickly. Consider these for a beginner:

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/10, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Haxby wrote: > > C++ is worse. >> > > > I don't know but you only (the first person) who said me it is the worse! This shows that you're indeed new to the world of programming :-) Andras -- users mailing list users@list

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, John Haxby wrote: Actually, no, C is dead easy to start but it gets really difficult really > quickly. Consider these for a beginner: > > * Write the declaration of signal(3) -- it takes two parameters, an > integer and a pointer to a function that takes an int

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Haxby wrote: > > > > C++ is worse. > >> > > > > > > I don't know but you only (the first person) who said me it is the worse! > > This shows that you're indeed new to the world of programming :-) > > And

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/2010 10:06 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Haxby wrote: >>> >>> C++ is worse. >>> >>> >>> I don't know but you only (the first person) who said me it is the worse! >> >> This shows that you'r

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17 Dec 2010 at 15:08, Parshwa Murdia wrote: Date sent: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:08:46 +0530 Subject:Re: About programing, a general question From: Parshwa Murdia To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: C is a fairly small language and C++ is a fairly large one. There is > a significant number of people who believe that C++ is too large. > However, many of the C++ features are useful. Apart from that, it's > all just opinion. > > Andrew. >

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Michael D. Setzer II < mi...@kuentos.guam.net> wrote: > OpenCobol is an implementation of COBOL that works on Linux and > windows, and it takes Cobol code, but converts it into C that is then > compiled. > > I have heard of a number of projects being migrated from

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17 December 2010 10:21, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > C is a fairly small language and C++ is a fairly large one. There is >> a significant number of people who believe that C++ is too large. >> However, many of the C++ features are useful.

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:55 PM, John Haxby wrote: Neither C not C++ can be called beginners programming languages. It's not > the size of C, it's the hidden complexity. And problem with C++ is the size > _and_ the complexity and knowing which of the zillion "features" to avoid > and why. > > j

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17 December 2010 10:24, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > > So C is better then? If you compare with Python, which is better place to > start with? > > > Python is a better start. It's very hard to say whether one programming language is better than another. I've written stuff in, oh, I can't rememb

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17 December 2010 10:37, John Haxby wrote: > There's a good tutorial on python.org as well. > > http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ It doesn't cover basic programming concepts, and some of the terms will be unfamiliar the first time through, but it'll get you started. jch -- users mailing li

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, John Haxby wrote: Python is a better start. > > It's very hard to say whether one programming language is better than > another. I've written stuff in, oh, I can't remember how many languages, > but I couldn't say "C is better than Cobol" or "Fortran is better th

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM, John Haxby wrote: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ > > It doesn't cover basic programming concepts, and some of the terms will be > unfamiliar the first time through, but it'll get you started. > > jch > Oh I see. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing

RE: About programing, a general question

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Re: About programing, a general question

Le 16/12/2010 18:02, Parshwa Murdia a écrit : hi, If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the programing, which programing language one should start with? In the ocean of the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one justify it. When learning to program

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Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM, wrote: To avoid religious wars > > The "best" programming language, is the one you feel most comfortable with, > obviously. > Though i was lucky enough to avoid basic, i grew up with assembly, C, plm, > Pascal, fortran, cobol, chill, all sorts of shell's, per

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Toxico Nimbus wrote: > First thing to learn is how to encode a logical process into a programming > syntax (an algorithm). To do that easily, you'll have to pick a language > with a human syntax and easy structure : > Choose Python, Basic, Pascal/Modula, LISP. Wi

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Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/2010 01:10 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Subject: > Re: About programing, a general question > From: > Parshwa Murdia > Date: > Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:40:11 +0530 > > To: > Community support for Fedora users > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM,

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/2010 5:10 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: You say correctly, 'The "best" programming language, is the one you feel most comfortable with, obviously.' As I am new and starting just, so I guess (with all the suggestions I get and from searching too) that either Python or C language would be a

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:00 +, John Haxby wrote: > > > On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > That said, I'd choose "C" to getting started. It's a bit of a > rough ride > in the beginning, but it pays off in longer terms. > > > Actuall

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/2010 5:14 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Toxico Nimbus > wrote: - Don't use something you couldn't create yourself Toxico Nimbus How you imagine could a beginner create something which he is trying to learn? Could you do that

Re: Security ?

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Re: About programing, a general question

Go with C++, easiest jump to every language. The reverse is not true for any other language. On 12/17/10, Patrick Kobly wrote: > On 12/17/2010 5:14 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Toxico Nimbus > > wrote: >> >> - Don't use something you co

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Les wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:00 +, John Haxby wrote: >> >> >> On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >>         That said, I'd choose "C" to getting started. It's a bit of a >>         rough ride >>         in the beginning, but it pays o

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Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/17/2010 06:28 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Les wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:00 +, John Haxby wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> >>> That said, I'd choose "C" to getting started. It's a bit of a >>>

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Re: About programing, a general question

Parshwa Murdia wrote: > hi, > > If one has to start from the scratch, from the zeroth level to do the > programing, which programing language one should start with? In the > ocean of the languages, to start with is really very typical. Can one > justify it. Some say Python but again they say it is

Re: About programing, a general question

Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:14 AM, James McKenzie > mailto:jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net>> wrote: > > I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the > way to learn how to program, no 'seat belts'. I have TWO copies of > K&Rs book as well as the '

Re: About programing, a general question

Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/17/2010 06:28 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Les wrote: >>> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:00 +, John Haxby wrote: On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: That said, I'd choose "C" to getting st

Re: About programing, a general question

I'd go with python as the default language for anything that doesn't require speed or access to the metal. For a beginner, python has the bonus that indentation is part of the syntax. For speed, one can use C, fortran, java, C++ or assembly. For access to the metal, one can use C, C++ or assembly.

Re: About programing, a general question

Bill Davidsen wrote: > >Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:14 AM, James McKenzie >> mailto:jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net>> wrote: >> >> I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the >> way to learn how to program, no 'seat belts'. I have TWO copies of >>

Re: About programing, a general question

On 17Dec2010 15:04, Parshwa Murdia wrote: | On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: [...] | I guess, yes, C would be good but do you agree that it is good over Python | (for the beginners like me, having known the fact that programing principles | are same)? I would stro

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Re: About programing, a general question

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Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Patrick Kobly wrote: On 12/17/2010 5:10 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > The thing to keep in mind here is what is the purpose of the language > you're choosing for this step in your journey. You are clearly not going to > be writing production software for som

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Les wrote: I have taught 4 different languages professionally, BASIC, PASCAL, > FORTRAN(actually a language with syntax similar to FORTRAN), and C. I > prefer to teach people C. > >I am not a real C guru, but I can tell you that it has the power to > eith

Re: About programing, a general question

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Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Matt Smith wrote: Go with C++, easiest jump to every language. The reverse is not true > for any other language. > Ok, I see, it is having a zillion of options in its library, as someone told me. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Robert Myers wrote: which is exactly why Python is relatively popular as a > scientific/mathematical scripting > language. > > And many of the things that are dangerous/subtle/hard-to-learn about c > are much less obscure if you are an assembly-language programme

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Exactly. "C" tends to expose many of the low-level details and the > concepts behind them (e.g. pointers, addresses, registers, > bit-operations, word-sizes, interfacing with other langu). > > That's why I prefer exposing newcomers to these c

Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: The first thing you need to understand is that a programming language is a > *tool*, and after four decades of programming I can tell you that choosing > the > right tool makes the job vastly easier. C is great for operating systems > and > to

Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: You can buy them on Amazon. I like the SAMS "Learn {something} in 24 hours" > books, they expect an hour a day for 24 days, not read until your head > explodes. > > -- > Bill Davidsen > But I would prefer to a book store at first. -- Reg

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Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: C is one of the richest languages ever, and was at the time of the first > standard (I was GE's rep to X3J11), and recent additions have made it even > more > powerful. > I like C for systems work, although I use a lot more bash than I used t

Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: I'd go with python as the default language for anything > that doesn't require speed or access to the metal. > For a beginner, python has the bonus that > indentation is part of the syntax. > > For speed, on

Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:25 AM, James Mckenzie wrote: > Thank you for the pointer. This will go on the low priority 'to do' list. > Probably, after having grasped the basics. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscript

Re: About programing, a general question

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: I would strongly recommend Python over C for learning to program. > > The syntax is very clean and clear (unlike Perl, which is visually very > noisy); it is nearly like writing out and English language description > of your code and watchin

Re: About programing, a general question

On 12/18/2010 07:45 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ralf Corsepiuswrote: > > Exactly. "C" tends to expose many of the low-level details and the >> concepts behind them (e.g. pointers, addresses, registers, >> bit-operations, word-sizes, interfacing with other langu). >