Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-04 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 12:41, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 09:16 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > > In this forum and others, a lot of time and effort goes to dealing > > with hardware support. When you buy a macOS or Windows system, you > > don't expect problems getting the h

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-02 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 09:16 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > In this forum and others, a lot of time and effort goes to dealing > with hardware support. When you buy a macOS or Windows system, you > don't expect problems getting the hardware to work. I do... I expect problems with Windows sy

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 16:29, ITwrx wrote: > On 9/1/20 1:31 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: > > The devs seem amenable, but are vastly under-resourced IMO. For my > money, better Fedora support ==> more Redhat support contract adoption. > > > > But that's a corporate Redhat/IBM issue that they've yet to co

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
On 9/1/20 12:28 PM, ITwrx wrote: > At roughly a billion $ a quarter in gross > revenue(IIRC), i think Red Hat should double/triple down on Fedora and CentOS it's a head-scratcher sometimes. particularly when you _talk_ to really interested & capable devs in Fedora-land -- many of whom _are_ RH/

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
On 9/1/20 1:31 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: > The devs seem amenable, but are vastly under-resourced IMO. For my money, > better Fedora support ==> more Redhat support contract adoption. > > But that's a corporate Redhat/IBM issue that they've yet to come to terms > with and focus on. Unless you're a b

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
> Thanks for the detailed answer. Very useful. I've come to some of the same > conclusions/solutions. > > I wanted to mention this source of friction since Fedora targets devs/ops > people and they will expect that something as prevalent as a LEMP stack is a > very smooth experience. It shows

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
On 9/1/20 11:38 AM, PGNet Dev wrote: > for 'fun', install composer from pkgs, and see what comes along for > the ride! no thanks. i think i remember that. :) > > i install the rpms, simply ignore the (admittedly annoying) installed apache > dependencies, and then override the systemd unit, Yes, th

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
On 9/1/20 8:05 AM, ITwrx wrote: > Am i missing something about how people are using nginx and php > together, or is this just legacy packaging defaults from a time when > there was only apache, which haven't been reconsidered since then? If > the latter, it would be nice if Fedora would reconsider

fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
i was wondering why Fedora (and openSUSE) still use "apache" for the php user (and "nginx" user for nginx) instead of using a generic "http" or "www" user for php, apache and nginx like some other distros? When running php under the "nginx" user, the session gets broken every time php is updated, b