On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 16:29, ITwrx <i...@itwrx.org> wrote: > On 9/1/20 1:31 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: > > The devs seem amenable, but are vastly under-resourced IMO. For my > money,
better Fedora support ==> more Redhat support contract adoption. > > > > But that's a corporate Redhat/IBM issue that they've yet to come to > terms with and focus on. Unless you're a bank, airline, government, etc :-/ > it's funny you said that because i almost included something similar in > my original mail. At roughly a billion $ a quarter in gross > revenue(IIRC), i think Red Hat should double/triple down on Fedora and > CentOS. What would happen to RH revenue (down the line) if Fedora and > CentOS started to completely dominate market share for smaller > institutions? Why would enterprises use another OS/distro if all the > users, admins and devs only/mainly know Fedora/CentOS b/c that's what > they use at school and work. i.e. The Windows Effect. Fedora and CentOS > are doing a lot of things right (that's why i'm in the process of moving > to them for various things), but just imagine if it were all really well > funded, and got to all the people doing the work. > Open source is suffering from the growth in variety and complexity of both hardware and software vastly greater than the growth in the number of developers. In this forum and others, a lot of time and effort goes to dealing with hardware support. When you buy a macOS or Windows system, you don't expect problems getting the hardware to work. Linux on laptops often has issues with power management, graphics, touchpad, wifi, and sound. RedHat and Lenovo Thinkpad Fedora Laptops <https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/09/01/red-hat-and-lenovo-thinkpad-linux-fedora-laptop-os/#14b735fd4127> mentions the effort Lenovo made to get linux driver support. I assume a big part of the developer effort behind Fedora is consumed by the need to support a wide variety of hardware, yet there are still many problems. I assume that many Fedora users work in a shop where RHEL or CentOS is used for "production" systems. In happen to work in a field (remote sensing) where you have many individual users from governments or universities where Windows is the "enterprise standard", but the software they need runs on macOS and linux. MacOS and Ubuntu are by far the most common platforms for small workgroups. I expect this pattern can be found in other fields. Both Microsoft and Apple have created problems for users with windows backgrounds but who need linux applications. Windows has had a string of problems with updates, while Apple's focus on security has created problems for users whose past practices are now out of bounds. Many of these users come with a mindset that others will fix problems for them. I've been involved with a number of remote-sensing workshops where we took a couple afternoons to introduce linux and some command-line basics. This helped the students with their remote sensing projects, and also proved helpful in modules on numerical modelling. The linux community needs to encourage users to spend time learning fundamentals, solving simple problems and making useful bug reports. RedHat is going to do their thing. If we want linux to prosper, it is up to us to reverse the dynamics that currently have complexity outstripping developer resources by doing everything we can to help ourselves and others use linux effectively. -- George N. White III
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