Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-28 Thread jd1008
On 08/28/2014 06:32 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 27 August 2014, jd1008 sent: It is electro-mechanical. No opticals involved at all. Then try putting a tiny dot of superglue put on top of the slider, itself, just to make that part of the card a bit bigger. Poke a toothpick into the g

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 27 August 2014, jd1008 sent: > It is electro-mechanical. No opticals involved at all. Then try putting a tiny dot of superglue put on top of the slider, itself, just to make that part of the card a bit bigger. Poke a toothpick into the glue, and use that to put a dot on the

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread jd1008
On 08/27/2014 07:10 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 27 August 2014, jd1008 sent: The card was bought from Costco and I am not sure it carries a warranty. I have had it for about a year. I can understand that. I still wonder if the sensor is mechanical, or optical. I've had optical sens

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 27 August 2014, jd1008 sent: > The card was bought from Costco and I am not sure it > carries a warranty. I have had it for about a year. There probably is one, even if they don't mention it (one of those consumer protection laws). Proving it, is the hard part. I keep rece

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread jd1008
On 08/27/2014 06:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Ahh I see. Not paying attention, I didn't realize you were formatting it in a USB->SD Card adapter, and then transferring it to the built-in slot in the laptop. So I'd say it's worth trying a newer kernel, even grabbing a top of the list 3.17rc2 on

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:00 PM, jd1008 wrote: >> > Hi Chris, > I found some cycles to try that out, though > I knew full well it would lead nowhere, but still > wanted to show you. > I backed up the sd card and then inserted it into > the usb adapter and reformatted it as ext4 and > inserted it int

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread jd1008
On 08/26/2014 09:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: /dev/mmcblk What kernel version? There have been a pile of mmc related patches to the kernel the last few months with more on the way. Thing is, mkfs.exfat and your camera can obviously write to the card.

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread jd1008
On 08/27/2014 05:21 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2014, jd1008 sent: I tried 1 layer of tape over the lock slider. More than 1 layer of tape makes the card too hard to insert into the slot. It really is a very tight does not seem to provide much play root. Is the sensor optic

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread Tod Merley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_blob So you are telling me that inserting he card, mounting the card (auto likely) and unmounting the card make no change? that is strange http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF let us know how " sudo yum update " pans out. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2014, jd1008 sent: > I tried 1 layer of tape over the lock slider. More than 1 layer > of tape makes the card too hard to insert into the slot. It really > is a very tight does not seem to provide much play root. Is the sensor optical rather than physical? If so,

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-27 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2014, Chris Murphy sent: > Last, and actually most important, practically obsoleting the above > two observations: this card is being used in a camera? The camera must > be used to format it. That's what the camera manufacturer and the SD > card manufacturer will te

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/26/2014 09:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: /dev/mmcblk What kernel version? There have been a pile of mmc related patches to the kernel the last few months with more on the way. Thing is, mkfs.exfat and your camera can obviously write to the card.

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/26/2014 09:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Four observations: 1. The fsck.exfat command worked. So obviously the mkfs command and kernel aren't seeing the wrong state of the card's physical lock switch. It sounds like a weird bug that it then can't be mounted. Maybe try an explicit mount -t

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: > /dev/mmcblk What kernel version? There have been a pile of mmc related patches to the kernel the last few months with more on the way. Thing is, mkfs.exfat and your camera can obviously write to the card. So it's not write protected or that wouldn'

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/26/2014 06:05 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, jd1008 wrote: It is a slider about 2mm or 2.5mm long and almost 1mm thick. When in the up position (towards the corner which goes into the controller) it is supposed to tell the controller write lock off (disabled). But it is

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Murphy
Four observations: 1. The fsck.exfat command worked. So obviously the mkfs command and kernel aren't seeing the wrong state of the card's physical lock switch. It sounds like a weird bug that it then can't be mounted. Maybe try an explicit mount -t without -o rw. I'd think if it's a bug it'd ha

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > It is a slider about 2mm or 2.5mm long and almost 1mm thick. > When in the up position (towards the corner which goes into the > controller) it is supposed to tell the controller write lock off > (disabled). But it is not working in my machine beca

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread Tod Merley
Hi again jd1008! A couple of things: 1. Be careful with the Dust-Off - especially with a new can. Good to get the tube so that it can be horizontal during the operation and do a short "liquid clearing" spray before you go inside the bay. The liquid form is hard on plastic I do believe. Be care

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/26/2014 04:19 AM, Tod Merley wrote: fwiw Googling " 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) " nets a whole bunch of linux problems threads Another silly thought. Dust-Off the card reader bay. If the switch position detection is opt

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 10:45 PM, Tim wrote: Tod Merley wrote: my first guess write protect switch (tab) Could be what senses the switch position in the reader isn't working. Are other cards mountable as writable, in the same reader? On SD cards, it's not really a switch, there's no electronics behind

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 10:26 PM, Tod Merley wrote: jd1008 wrote: " Later, I replaced my old laptop with a slightly newer one (Dell Latitude E6500) and I inserted the sd card in the dell laptop and always got automounted read only. As I had also mentioned, fc20 has no problem automounting it RW if I u

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 09:54 PM, Tod Merley wrote: My card is a Samsung 32 EVO Micro SD HC I held in an SD adapter and used and formatted by my Nikon camera. [tmerley@localhost ~]$ journalctl -f -- Logs begin at Mon 2014-08-25 06:16:28 PDT. -- Aug 25 20:28:07 localhost.localdomain dhclient[1015]: ... .

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 09:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/26/14 11:16, jd1008 wrote: I had no problem using it on Linux after I had formatted it under windows as exfat. However, at tat time, I did not have a laptop with a working sdcard reader built-in. So I had used a USB sdcard reader/writer adapter,

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-26 Thread Tod Merley
fwiw Googling " 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) " nets a whole bunch of linux problems threads Another silly thought. Dust-Off the card reader bay. If the switch position detection is optically based perhaps dust or dirt could become a

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tim
Tod Merley wrote: >> my first guess >> write protect switch (tab) jd1008: > I tried with the switch in the up and the down position and tried to > mount. > In both cases I am getting: > > WARN: `/dev/mmcblk0p1' is write-protected, mounting read-only. Could be what senses the switch position in

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
jd1008 wrote: " Later, I replaced my old laptop with a slightly newer one (Dell Latitude E6500) and I inserted the sd card in the dell laptop and always got automounted read only. As I had also mentioned, fc20 has no problem automounting it RW if I use the USB sd card adapter. " Well if you can s

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
Ed I simply wanted to show the process. I know - I knew - I thought it was obvious - indeed it is. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/26/14 11:54, Tod Merley wrote: > > /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME type vfat > (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
I did add the word "exfat" to my original search line and results are different but none seem on the mark. Search term " sd exfat card will mount only read only fedora 20 " Perhaps time to start looking at how other machines see the card - and how other cards work formatted as you like in your af

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/26/14 11:54, Tod Merley wrote: > /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME type vfat > (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2) Your card is formatted as vfat. So

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
My card is a Samsung 32 EVO Micro SD HC I held in an SD adapter and used and formatted by my Nikon camera. [tmerley@localhost ~]$ journalctl -f -- Logs begin at Mon 2014-08-25 06:16:28 PDT. -- Aug 25 20:28:07 localhost.localdomain dhclient[1015]: ... ... ... [starting line just before SD card plug

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/26/14 11:16, jd1008 wrote: > I had no problem using it on Linux after I had formatted it under windows as > exfat. > However, at tat time, I did not have a laptop with a working sdcard reader > built-in. > So I had used a USB sdcard reader/writer adapter, and Linux had no problems > with it

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 09:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/26/14 10:58, jd1008 wrote: If I recall correctly, I had indeed originally formatted it as exfat on windows. But after that I was found the rpmfusion exfat-utils and installed them on my fc20. I don't quite understand Is the card currently f

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/26/14 10:58, jd1008 wrote: > If I recall correctly, I had indeed originally formatted it as exfat on > windows. > But after that I was found the rpmfusion exfat-utils and installed them on my > fc20. I don't quite understand Is the card currently formatted by Windows? If so, could y

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 08:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/26/14 03:15, jd1008 wrote: My flash card slot in the laptop is (per lspci): 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) I insert into it a SanDisk 16GB Extreme SD card. This card is not marked as a

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 05:58 PM, Tod Merley wrote: well does seem to be a common thread: https://www.google.com/search?q=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&oq=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&aqs=chrome..69i57.16787j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 So, one of the links claims

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/26/14 03:15, jd1008 wrote: > My flash card slot in the laptop is (per lspci): > 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host > Adapter (rev 21) > > I insert into it a SanDisk 16GB Extreme SD card. This card is not marked as a > secure card. > At least, it does n

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
The search link I provided probably has the story. This may well be a bug. The "follow" of the journalctl I suggested would likely tell much more. Searching the journal with such as " journalctl | grep e624 " or perhaps " journalctl | grep mmc0 " might turn up additional hints (or other hints fr

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 05:58 PM, Tod Merley wrote: well does seem to be a common thread: https://www.google.com/search?q=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&oq=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&aqs=chrome..69i57.16787j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 - would love to see what

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
well does seem to be a common thread: https://www.google.com/search?q=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&oq=sd+card+will+mount+only+read+only+fedora+20&aqs=chrome..69i57.16787j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 - would love to see what we do find. Could you post the mount part of y

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
On 08/25/2014 01:49 PM, Tod Merley wrote: > my first guess > write protect switch (tab): http://static.commentcamarche.net/en.kioskea.net/faq/images/0-hXBUyBSB-t555-1122-callout-s-.png I tried with the switch in the up and the down position and tried to mount. In both cases I am getting: WAR

Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread Tod Merley
my first guess: write protect switch (tab): http://static.commentcamarche.net/en.kioskea.net/faq/images/0-hXBUyBSB-t555-1122-callout-s-.png On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > My flash card slot in the laptop is (per lspci): > 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 S

exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only

2014-08-25 Thread jd1008
My flash card slot in the laptop is (per lspci): 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) I insert into it a SanDisk 16GB Extreme SD card. This card is not marked as a secure card. At least, it does not say so on the card. It gets automounte