Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-12 Thread g
On 05/12/2015 04:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: <<>> > I tried all the mechanisms suggested in the manual, and none worked. > If I were writing the manual, I would say on page 1, > "The first step has to be to access the device web-page. > If you aren't able to do this you cannot set up the repeat

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-12 Thread Tim
Doug: >> You should be able to access the device over the network in wifi mode >> simply by entering the ip address in the address line of your router. > Timothy Murphy: > I get the web-page of my router when I do that. Depending on how your wireless extender works, it could just act like a switc

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Doug wrote: >> In any case, I managed to see the device's web-page briefly, >> by switching off WiFi on my laptop, connecting the device >> to the laptop by ethernet, and changing the laptop's ethernet address >> to 192.168.10.5 . >> Now I could see the web-page at 192.168.10.1 for about 30 second

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote: >> The manual says the device has IP address 192.168.10.1, >> but as far as I can see you have to have a machine >> running 192.168.10.something to see the device's web-page? >> I know 192.168.10.* is an allowed address, >> but is it so popular that one can assume it is in use? > Withi

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-11 Thread Doug
On 05/11/2015 07:33 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: /snip/ But I haven't actually solved my problem. /snip/ I've continued to try to get my SilverCrest WiFi extender working (model SWR 300 a1, from Lidl). (Actually, I've asked in a few places about this, and never heard from anyone who has it wor

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-11 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 13:33 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The manual says the device has IP address 192.168.10.1, > but as far as I can see you have to have a machine > running 192.168.1.something to see the device's web-page? > I know 192.168.10.* is an allowed address, > but is it so popular tha

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-11 Thread Timothy Murphy
g wrote: >> Actually, I already did that - I got two much longer arms from >> Amazon, which had a considerable effect. > > glad to have seen you cured problem. > while re-indexing my firefox bookmarks, i ran across an interesting > some interesting bookmarks tagged 'wifi antennas' that was still

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-05-10 Thread g
On 04/24/2015 06:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Doug wrote: > >> Another "fix"--obtain a longer antenna made for the frequency >> band, which is surely 2400~2480 MHz. Make sure the connector mates >> with the connector on the router! >> This may work, since you _almost_ have enough signal now, an

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread g
On 04/29/2015 11:01 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> This blessing is cursed... ;-) >>> >>> I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. >>> I've never actually needed to change my antenna. > > g: >> not even. >> >> types include all sorts of; array beam, biconical, butterfly, >>

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread Tim
Tim: >> This blessing is cursed... ;-) >> >> I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. >> I've never actually needed to change my antenna. g: > not even. > > types include all sorts of; array beam, biconical, butterfly, > cantenna, coaxial, corner reflector, dipole, disc

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread g
On 04/29/2015 06:09 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a >>> signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together >>> in bad ways, and cancel out, or seriously mess up the signal. > > g: >> all of which can be decreased w

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread sean darcy
My cell phone has no problem. chromecast has no problem. Shifting seats doesn't make it go away. I'm 20 feet from the router in line of sight. I'm not in a faraday cage. There are no overlapping channels. There's no RF voodoo here. sean On 04/28/2015 02:52 AM, Tim wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread Tim
Tim: >> With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a >> signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together >> in bad ways, and cancel out, or seriously mess up the signal. g: > all of which can be decreased with a parabolic reflector for each > antenna.

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-29 Thread g
On 04/29/2015 12:33 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 10:01 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: >> With only ten feet away, drop of signal because of distance isn't a >> serious consideration. > > With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a > signal, rather than sign

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-28 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 10:01 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > With only ten feet away, drop of signal because of distance isn't a > serious consideration. With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together i

RE: WiFi restoration

2015-04-28 Thread J.Witvliet
erlap. Hw -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: dinsdag 28 april 2015 8:53 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: WiFi restoration Timothy Murphy wrote: >> One room in my hous

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-27 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy wrote: >> One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, >> and WiFi occasionally fails there. >> When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. >> Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. >> Is there any other step I could take, short of r

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-27 Thread sean darcy
On 04/23/2015 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, and WiFi occasionally fails there. When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. Is there any other step I could take,

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 April 2015 at 11:02, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: > >> If restarting the card allows it to reconnect when it gets into the >> connection lost state that does somewhat suggest there are accumulated >> errors somewhere (in the driver maybe) due to the poor connection that >> event

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-27 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ian Malone wrote: > If restarting the card allows it to reconnect when it gets into the > connection lost state that does somewhat suggest there are accumulated > errors somewhere (in the driver maybe) due to the poor connection that > eventually cause a failure. Increasing the signal by moving th

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-27 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/25/15 18:18, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I'm running Fedora/KDE, and I don't see anything called "Airplane mode" >> (or Airplane anything) in KNetworkManager. > > I don't know what you mean by "KNetworkManager" but I am running F21/KDE. > > I am using "kde-plasma-nm". Whe

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 April 2015, Timothy Murphy sent: > When I google for "fedora airplane mode" I get lots of hits > but none of the ones I've looked at actually explain > what they mean by this term. Did you mean defining what Fedora does about it, or what "airplane mode" refers to? Airpl

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/25/15 18:18, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm running Fedora/KDE, and I don't see anything called "Airplane mode" (or Airplane anything) in KNetworkManager. I don't know what you mean by "KNetworkManager" but I am running F21/KDE. I am using "kde-plasma-

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/25/2015 05:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 10:22 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: Powerline adapters are illegal in several countries as they pollute the radio spectrum. I wasn't aware of that. They are not illegal where I live (UK). I would not want to exclud

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 10:22 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > Powerline adapters are illegal in several countries as they pollute > the radio spectrum. I wasn't aware of that. They are not illegal where I live (UK). > Only good solution is cat6 or fibre and a second accesspoint. Certainly the

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/25/15 18:18, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm running Fedora/KDE, and I don't see anything called "Airplane mode" > (or Airplane anything) in KNetworkManager. I don't know what you mean by "KNetworkManager" but I am running F21/KDE. I am using "kde-plasma-nm". When I left-click on the Network-I

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Ian Malone
On 25 April 2015 at 11:18, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Tim wrote: > >> On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 01:22 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Airplane mode? Is there such a thing on a laptop? >> >> I would have thought so, people do use laptops when they travel. > > I'm running Fedora/KDE, and I don't see anyth

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 01:22 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Airplane mode? Is there such a thing on a laptop? > > I would have thought so, people do use laptops when they travel. I'm running Fedora/KDE, and I don't see anything called "Airplane mode" (or Airplane anything) in KNetwo

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread J.Witvliet
Powerline adapters are illegal in several countries as they pollute the radio spectrum. Only good solution is cat6 or fibre and a second accesspoint. Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 25 apr. 2015 om 01:36 heeft Patrick O'Callaghan > het volgende geschreven: > > On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 00:51 +02

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/25/2015 01:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 00:51 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: I did get a longer antenna for the Linksys WRT54GL WiFi router. I also tried to set up a WiFi repeater (SilverCrest SWR 300 a1) but could not get it working under Fedora or Windows. I ha

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 01:22 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Airplane mode? Is there such a thing on a laptop? I would have thought so, people do use laptops when they travel. I kind-of wouldn't expect it on a desktop, though, but the function may be in all the wireless software. -- tim@localho

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 00:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I tried a wireless repeater a few years ago. Complete waste of money, > despite being a reputable brand (Linksys). Interesting to know. Never actually used one, just know of their existence. I can well imagine problems if there isn'

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Miller wrote: >> However, I didn't know computers (other than phones) had an Airplane >> mode. Another thing that could be tried would be to rmmod the wifi driver > They usually do -- look at > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/rfkill.txt > > and if you're curious, try the 'rfk

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 00:51 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Move the wireless access point, move or improve the antenna > (transmitter > > and/or receiver), re-position the the failing client device, add > another > > access point or wireless repeater, move objects that may be in the > way > > of

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Jim Lewis wrote: >>> One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, >>> and WiFi occasionally fails there. >>> When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. >>> Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. >>> Is there any other step I could take, short of

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Dan Mossor wrote: >> One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, >> and WiFi occasionally fails there. >> When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. >> Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. >> Is there any other step I could take, short of re-b

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Doug wrote: > Another "fix"--obtain a longer antenna made for the frequency band, > which is surely 2400~2480 MHz. Make sure the connector mates with the > connector on the router! > This may work, since you _almost_ have enough signal now, and another dB > or two may make all the difference. Act

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote: >> One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, >> and WiFi occasionally fails there. >> When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. >> Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. >> Is there any other step I could take, short of re-booting?

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Doug
On 04/24/2015 07:14 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 18:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: I do something similar that works great to boost the signal across the length of the house, but I cut off a square of aluminum flashing I had instead of opening up a beer can :-). You hadn't finished drin

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-24 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 18:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > I do something similar that works great to boost the signal > across the length of the house, but I cut off a square of > aluminum flashing I had instead of opening up a beer can :-). You hadn't finished drinking it yet? ;-) -- tim@localho

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/23/2015 03:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:36:16 -0400 Doug wrote: WiFi is radio frequency signals. What you need to do is take steps to make the signals stronger in that area. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Wi-Fi-Booster-Using-Only-a-Can (I do something similar that wo

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:36:16 -0400 Doug wrote: > WiFi is radio frequency signals. What you need to do is take steps to > make the signals stronger in that area. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Wi-Fi-Booster-Using-Only-a-Can (I do something similar that works great to boost the signal across the l

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Doug
On 04/23/2015 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, and WiFi occasionally fails there. When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. Is there any other step I could tak

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:23:53AM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote: > However, I didn't know computers (other than phones) had an Airplane > mode. Another thing that could be tried would be to rmmod the wifi driver They usually do -- look at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/rfkill.txt and if you'

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Jim Lewis
> On 04/23/2015 05:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, >> and WiFi occasionally fails there. >> When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. >> Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. >> Is there any other st

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Dan Mossor
On 04/23/2015 05:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, and WiFi occasionally fails there. When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. Is there any other step I could take,

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread foxec...@gmail.com
I have the same issue when the DHCP lease expires even though I authenticate again to the network I do not get an IP back without a reboot "systemctl resatart network.service" doesn't even work. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > On 2015-04-23 at 20:47:10 Tim wrote: > > > On

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 2015-04-23 at 20:47:10 Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 12:29 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, > > and WiFi occasionally fails there. > > When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. > > Re-starting NetworkManager nev

Re: WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 12:29 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, > and WiFi occasionally fails there. > When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. > Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. > Is there any other

WiFi restoration

2015-04-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, and WiFi occasionally fails there. When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. Is there any other step I could take, short of re-booting? I'm running Fedora-21/KDE.