Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

Roger wrote: > Yes, we have a problem with the financial model which includes buying > hardware >> in hopes that it will be useful before it's obsolete. That means it works on >> day >> one. >> >> The one thing I can't accept is breaking support for systems which worked >> fine >> on older relea

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 17:02 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > The one thing I can't accept is breaking support for systems which > worked fine on older releases. I don't want people running FC9 any > more, but FC13 no longer supports the hardware. By support I mean a > default install will display a gr

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 09:37 +1000, Roger wrote: > What are the fears/problems with running an OS that is only 1-2 years > old? The internet software being out-of-date, not supporting current features, not having bug fixes, not fixing security holes. And, if you want to add new software, it not be

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

Yes, we have a problem with the financial model which includes buying hardware > in hopes that it will be useful before it's obsolete. That means it works on > day > one. > > The one thing I can't accept is breaking support for systems which worked fine > on older releases. I don't want people ru

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 11:12 +1000, Roger wrote: >> Why in the world would someone pay more for computer to run Linux? > > Because they wanted to run Linux, and given the choices of hardware > available to them, only the more expensive options were compatible. > I would have said that

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bill Davidsen wrote: > James McKenzie wrote: > >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >>> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you >>> expect >>> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz >>> while >>> long time users run in text mode

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

2010/8/3, Roger : > > Given the reality, that users bought computers which Linux supported > only a few years ago, and in some cases paid extra to get computers > which ran Linux, it really sends a message to have that hardware become > unsupported two years later. Thanks guys. Hand MSFT a big bag

Re: was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 11:12 +1000, Roger wrote: > Why in the world would someone pay more for computer to run Linux? Because they wanted to run Linux, and given the choices of hardware available to them, only the more expensive options were compatible. I faced that when I bought my laptop. The c

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

> > I ask because I have never done that. I have stayed > away from obvious > > conflicting things like Win-Modems and Lexmark > printers but I have never > > paid more for Linux support. > > > I'm glad you never had to buy a more expensive system, > particularly laptops, to > get hardware which

was: Still no kmod for new nvidia- now: so Move On

Given the reality, that users bought computers which Linux supported only a few years ago, and in some cases paid extra to get computers which ran Linux, it really sends a message to have that hardware become unsupported two years later. Thanks guys. Hand MSFT a big bag of FUD about "will Linu

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 8/2/2010 5:19 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > David wrote: > I'm glad you never had to buy a more expensive system, particularly laptops, > to > get hardware which is supported. Many others have, definitely including me. Well... I don't know exactly what it is that you do with these laptops. Wha

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

David wrote: > On 7/31/2010 3:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:00:33 -0400, >>> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> >>> >>> But they probably aren't going to work with recent kernels. So that makes >>> them >>> not very useful for using them on recent

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 15:00:39 -0400, > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Given the reality, that users bought computers which Linux supported >> only a few years ago, and in some cases paid extra to get computers >> which ran Linux, it really sends a message to have that

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 15:00:39 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Given the reality, that users bought computers which Linux supported > only a few years ago, and in some cases paid extra to get computers > which ran Linux, it really sends a message to have that hardware become > unsupported

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/31/2010 3:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:00:33 -0400, >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >> >> But they probably aren't going to work with recent kernels. So that makes >> them >> not very useful for using them on recent Fedora. >> >> >> >>

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:00:33 -0400, > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Let me try to be polite about that, the drivers in FC6 thru FC9 are >> proprietary? >> Really? Sounds like FUD to me! >> > > But they probably aren't going to work with recent kernels. So that

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:00:33 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Let me try to be polite about that, the drivers in FC6 thru FC9 are > proprietary? > Really? Sounds like FUD to me! But they probably aren't going to work with recent kernels. So that makes them not very useful for using them on r

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

James Mckenzie wrote: > Was there a shift with FC10 to remove the old drivers or was there an > external threat (lawsuit)? > No, I think the blame lies on Xorg, I'm told that the changes were major, and like any virtual monopoly the changes were made with the expectation that if you wanted to

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bill Davidsen wrote: > James McKenzie wrote: >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you >>> expect >>> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz >>> while >>> long time users run in text mode or VESA mode

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, suvayu ali > wrote: >> On 29 July 2010 09:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> It is a commentary that computers which ran using Fedora drivers in FC6 >>> thru FC9 >>> now must use vendor drivers or run in VESA mode. Was that not clear in the

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 08:41 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > While I disagree with your views on reverse engineering, the above was > really referring to interoperability. Things like being able to buy > spare parts from other than the manufacturer and being able to use add > ons not sanctioned by t

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 09:21 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Of course I had to go and ruin the experience by trying to print > CDs and DVDs - that wasn't quite so flawless (but it got better > in fedora 13 :-). It's been years since I attempted to print to specific locations. I used to do that back o

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 22:54:54 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 06:56 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > There was a court case where a company was using a copyrighted phrase > > for access control. A competitor won when they also used the same > > phrase for access control purposes. >

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 06:56 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > There was a court case where a company was using a copyrighted phrase > for access control. A competitor won when they also used the same > phrase for access control purposes. > > That was a long time ago and people seemed to feel that w

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:53:22 +0930 Tim wrote: > If you're lucky... I've seen plenty of Windows users who've had some > peripheral, usually sound or graphics cards, that's always been a right > bitch. It is interesting that "plug & play" was invented for Windows 98, yet the only time I've ever ha

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 06:28 -0400, David wrote: > If you buy an Nvidia video card and install it into a box that is > running a Windows OS and then boot it it works. You insert the CD that > came with the card and install the 'better' driver and reboot it > works. If you're lucky... I've seen ple

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Around 04:57pm on Friday, July 30, 2010 (UK time), David scrawled: > Could be. You are aware of course that all the 'modern' distro's are > similar to Fedora in development? Kernels, Xorg, and such. Stable would > be like Debian, CentOS, and the like. And IMO stable=stale. :-) Yes, I was thinkin

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/30/2010 11:13 AM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 03:33pm on Friday, July 30, 2010 (UK time), David scrawled: > >> So that's one example which you 'documented' well. My complaint(s) are >> with the vague claims that some make but then never show any proof. >> Which I am seeing more and more of t

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Around 03:33pm on Friday, July 30, 2010 (UK time), David scrawled: > So that's one example which you 'documented' well. My complaint(s) are > with the vague claims that some make but then never show any proof. > Which I am seeing more and more of these days. Ouch, presumably that is aimed at me f

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/30/2010 10:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:39 -0400, David wrote: >> I would think that qualifies as a driver problem. :-) > > I agree. > >> But not a Windows driver problem. Why not? It is a HP problem. Their >> hardware and their driver(s). Windows had nothing

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:39 -0400, David wrote: > I would think that qualifies as a driver problem. :-) I agree. > But not a Windows driver problem. Why not? It is a HP problem. Their > hardware and their driver(s). Windows had nothing to do with any of > this. Microsoft gave plenty of time for

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/30/2010 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 06:28 -0400, David wrote: >> Again - Windows "Driver hell"? I don't know of any. Examples please. > > I don't know if this counts as "driver hell", but it was certainly > "hell" when it happened. A year or two back I purchase

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 06:28 -0400, David wrote: > Again - Windows "Driver hell"? I don't know of any. Examples please. I don't know if this counts as "driver hell", but it was certainly "hell" when it happened. A year or two back I purchased an HP Photosmart all-in-one scanner/printer. It has its

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 06:28 -0400, David wrote: > Windows "Driver hell"? > > The basic hardware drivers usually come with Windows. Fedora provides > basic, some quite advanced actually, hardware drivers for many pieces of > hardware. > > The 'better' Windows hardware drivers come with the hardwa

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/30/2010 5:46 AM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 02:44am on Friday, July 30, 2010 (UK time), David scrawled: > >> On 7/29/2010 5:00 PM, Steve Searle wrote: >>> Around 09:54pm on Thursday, July 29, 2010 (UK time), James Mckenzie >>> scrawled: >>> And the comment on "Linux on the Desktop".

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 30/07/10 10:46, Steve Searle wrote: > Who supplies them is not the point here. "Driver hell" happens on > Windows as well, yet that is considered a desktop system. > They have the resources to say it is :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Around 02:44am on Friday, July 30, 2010 (UK time), David scrawled: > On 7/29/2010 5:00 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > > Around 09:54pm on Thursday, July 29, 2010 (UK time), James Mckenzie > > scrawled: > > > >> And the comment on "Linux on the Desktop". Not ready yet. We need it so > >> that users

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/30/2010 01:03 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > What I'm looking forward to is RHEL 6 being based on this > new X. I can't wait till large paying corporate customers > find all their video busted. (That's when you'll find the > quality of the drivers suddenly improving at an accelerated > pace :-).

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/29/2010 5:00 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 09:54pm on Thursday, July 29, 2010 (UK time), James Mckenzie scrawled: > >> And the comment on "Linux on the Desktop". Not ready yet. We need it so >> that users don't have to go through hoops to use what they need. All >> distributions suffe

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 23:48:57 -0400, > Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> If doing a "black-box" only job of "reverse engineering" requires one to >> load memory with a trademark, how does this fall into the realm of >> acceptable? > > There was a court case where a compa

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

James McKenzie wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you >> expect >> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz >> while >> long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best? Not everyone can >>

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/29/10 7:56 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 23:48:57 -0400, >Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> If doing a "black-box" only job of "reverse engineering" requires one to >> load memory with a trademark, how does this fall into the realm of >> acceptable? >> > There

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Around 09:54pm on Thursday, July 29, 2010 (UK time), James Mckenzie scrawled: > And the comment on "Linux on the Desktop". Not ready yet. We need it so > that users don't have to go through hoops to use what they need. All > distributions suffer from this, even the more friendly ones. I've s

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

"Christofer C. Bell" wrote: >Sent: Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM >To: Community support for Fedora users >Subject: Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia > >On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, suvayu ali > wrote: >> On 29 July 2010 09:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>>

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > What I'm looking forward to is RHEL 6 being based on this > new X. I can't wait till large paying corporate customers > find all their video busted. (That's when you'll find the > quality of the drivers suddenly improving at an accelerated >

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:03:34 -0700 suvayu ali wrote: > I think legacy proprietary driver packages exist on RPMFusion. A legacy driver won't do any good, you'd need a legacy X as well since the drivers changed to accommodate the changed requirements of X itself (which is why pretty much all video

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 29 July 2010 11:48, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, suvayu ali > wrote: >> On 29 July 2010 09:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> It is a commentary that computers which ran using Fedora drivers in FC6 >>> thru FC9 >>> now must use vendor drivers or run in VESA mode. W

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 29 July 2010 09:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> It is a commentary that computers which ran using Fedora drivers in FC6 thru >> FC9 >> now must use vendor drivers or run in VESA mode. Was that not clear in the >> above >> quoted 1st paragraph

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 29 July 2010 09:39, Bill Davidsen wrote: > It is a commentary that computers which ran using Fedora drivers in FC6 thru > FC9 > now must use vendor drivers or run in VESA mode. Was that not clear in the > above > quoted 1st paragraph? Hardware which was new less than four years ago no > long

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

> I mention it because people flame if someone suggests using > vendor drivers which > work. > > -- Sad but true :( Hardware which worked before no longer does with newer software builds. In some cases, one can build the driver(s) but most have to wait for others to do it since they were

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you >> expect >> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz >> while >> long time users run in text mode or VES

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/29/2010 12:42 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:14:23 -0500, Christofer wrote: > > >> What, exactly, is your goal in complaining here that RPM Fusion >> doesn't have the latest kmods? What, exactly, are you trying to >> accomplish? If it's simply to complain, then ple

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 23:48:57 -0400, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > If doing a "black-box" only job of "reverse engineering" requires one to > load memory with a trademark, how does this fall into the realm of > acceptable? There was a court case where a company was using a copyrighted phra

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 20:37:04 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > Manufacturers don't want to give away technical secrets and will go to > great lengths to keep them that way. Their bottom lines depend on it. And the way to change this is to not buy stuff from companies that don't document h

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:36:59 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > On 07/28/2010 03:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:10:22 -0700, > >Michael Miles wrote: > > > >> I wish that nouveau would support cuda then this mess would be obsolete. > >> > >> As it is nouveau

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:12:16 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > Kmods not available for new Nvidia driver. > It was suggested to ask RPM Fusion which I did with NO reply. Where did you ask? Can't find your name in their list archives. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:14:23 -0500, Christofer wrote: > What, exactly, is your goal in complaining here that RPM Fusion > doesn't have the latest kmods? What, exactly, are you trying to > accomplish? If it's simply to complain, then please stop. If the > goal is to motivate RPM Fusion to releas

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/28/10 11:37 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > > Describe 'reverse engineer'. There is looking at the input/outputs of a > module with no knowledge of the code of the module (called 'black' box) > and then there is decoding to the machine code level ('white' box or > 'gray' box.) There is a reason t

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Rick Stevens wrote > It would also be nice if the manufacturers would release better > information on the devices themselves. Yes, this has been hashed, rehashed and burnt to the ground. Manufacturers don't want to give away technical secrets and will go to great lengths to keep them that way.

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 03:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:10:22 -0700, >Michael Miles wrote: > >> I wish that nouveau would support cuda then this mess would be obsolete. >> >> As it is nouveau and any real support for Nvidia is not there. >> > Opencl is more likely

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:10:22 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > I wish that nouveau would support cuda then this mess would be obsolete. > > As it is nouveau and any real support for Nvidia is not there. Opencl is more likely. I don't think there is a free cuda compiler. -- users mailing list

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 03:03 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Chris Adams wrote: > > >> From: Chris Adams >> Subject: Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia >> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 2:49 PM >> O

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Chris Adams wrote: > From: Chris Adams > Subject: Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 2:49 PM > Once upon a time, Michael Miles > > said: > > And before too much is said why d

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: > And before too much is said why does RPM Fusion have right on their main > page to contact The Fedora users group for help on RPM Fusions software. If Microsoft put on their web site to post here for questions, would that make it valid? Problems with RPM

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

> > You're right, they should not direct people here. >  However, this is > > what I see on their page: > > > > Bug Report > > > > If you still cannot make the driver to work, you can > either report a > > problem to nVidia or to rpmfusion packager team. > Please read: How to > > report a problem a

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 23:07:24 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Why? It's true that enough Fedora users also use RPM Fusion and are Some Fedora users. For RPMFusion specific stuff they should ask on the RPMFusion lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/28/2010 1:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/27/2010 05:58 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > > It would also be nice if the manufacturers would release better > information on the devices themselves. Much of the time spent in FOSS > driver development is reverse engineering drivers for Windows bec

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:49 -0500, Christofer wrote: > >> >> This text needs to be removed. > > Why? It's true that enough Fedora users also use RPM Fusion and are > available in the discussion places listed above. Nowhere does the page >

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:49 -0500, Christofer wrote: > Ah, it seems it's right on the front page: > > "You can get support for RPM Fusion in most of the usual Fedora > discussion places -- e.g. fedora-list, #fedora on freenode and > fedoraforum.org." > > This text needs to be removed. Why? It'

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 01:42 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >>> >> Then RPM Fusion should not be telling people to go to this mailing list >> for help as that is exactly what they are doing. >> > You're right, they should not direct

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Michael Miles wrote: >>> >> Then RPM Fusion should not be telling people to go to this mailing list >> for help as that is exactly what they are doing. > > You're right, they should not direct people her

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Michael Miles wrote: >> > Then RPM Fusion should not be telling people to go to this mailing list > for help as that is exactly what they are doing. You're right, they should not direct people here. However, this is what I see on their page: Bug Report If you s

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 01:20 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/28/2010 04:18 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >> On 07/28/2010 12:32 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> >>> Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: >>> >>> Also I have sent this to

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 13:12:16 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > What do you mean off topic . This is for questions about Fedora. You are asking about something from RPMFusion. This isn't the correct list for that. However it isn't greatly off topic and some people here might have useful advice f

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/2010 04:18 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > On 07/28/2010 12:32 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: >> >>> Also I have sent this to RPM Fusion with no luck with any answer >>> >> That isn't a good reason to pos

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 12:32 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: > >> Also I have sent this to RPM Fusion with no luck with any answer >> > That isn't a good reason to post off-topic messages to this list. > > And before too much is said why does RPM Fusion have rig

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

On 07/28/2010 12:32 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: > >> Also I have sent this to RPM Fusion with no luck with any answer >> > That isn't a good reason to post off-topic messages to this list. > > What do you mean off topic . I am the OP on this thread

Re: Still no kmod for new Nvidia

Once upon a time, Michael Miles said: > Also I have sent this to RPM Fusion with no luck with any answer That isn't a good reason to post off-topic messages to this list. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's e

Still no kmod for new Nvidia

Hello I have been using Fedora 12 and I like the nvidia driver as it makes my card work like it should. My question is the last update for Nvidia driver195.36.31-2 seems to have no kmod for 2.6.32.16_141. The kmod is there but they list as 2.6.32.16_141-1 and the same as the kmod for 2.6.32.1

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/27/2010 05:58 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you >> expect >> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz >> while >> long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bill Davidsen wrote: > And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you > expect > that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz > while > long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best? Not everyone can throw > away what was a pretty

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/28/2010 04:15 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you > expect > that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz > while > long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best? Not everyone can throw

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you > expect > that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz > while > long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best? Not everyone ca

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/20/2010 05:53 AM, Michael Miles wrote: >> I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two >> seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a >> Fedora issue. >> > > Among the mainstream distributions, Fedora is uniqu

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. > > This is on the mail RPM Fusion page > > You can get support for RPM Fusion in most of the usual Fedora discussion > places -- e.g. fedora-list, #fedora on freenode and fedoraforum.org. > yup. it's there. pretty generous of them (RPM Fusion)

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/19/2010 07:17 PM, David wrote: On 7/19/2010 9:17 PM, Michael Miles wrote: On 07/19/2010 05:51 PM, David wrote: On 7/19/2010 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Obviously the previous kernel worked correct? Why not use that one? I am using the previous kernel. I just lik

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/20/2010 09:44 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Michael Miles > wrote: I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a Fedora iss

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two > seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a > Fedora issue. > That's just it, Michael. While I understand your frustration, this isn't a Fed

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 19 July 2010 18:53, Michael Miles wrote: > Hello there > > > I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to > be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. > > The release is kmod 2.6.32.16-141 for 195-36.31-1 > The driver is 195-36.31-2 > > I am not sure if it miss labelled

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/19/2010 9:17 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > On 07/19/2010 05:51 PM, David wrote: >> On 7/19/2010 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >> >> Obviously the previous kernel worked correct? Why not use that one? >> >> >> > I am using the previous kernel. > > I just like to keep up and it is a upd

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/19/2010 05:51 PM, David wrote: > On 7/19/2010 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, >>>Michael Miles wrote: >>> I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to be the wr

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 7/19/2010 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, >> Michael Miles wrote: >>> I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to >>> be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. >> >> Fedora doesn't produce the kmod.

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/20/2010 06:09 AM, Michael Miles wrote: > Oh well, considering the two main Video companies is Nvidia and Ati it > would be good to have a Fedora based driver that works 100%. > I am not knocking Nouveau but it still has a way to go before it can be > called a driver replacement. > > Thanks

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/19/2010 05:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/20/2010 05:53 AM, Michael Miles wrote: > >> I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two >> seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a >> Fedora issue. >> >> > Among the mainstream

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/20/2010 05:53 AM, Michael Miles wrote: > I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two > seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a > Fedora issue. > Among the mainstream distributions, Fedora is unique in that, it doesn't have a off

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/19/2010 04:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, >>Michael Miles wrote: >> >>> I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to >>> be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. >>> >> Fedora

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, > Michael Miles wrote: >> I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to >> be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. > > Fedora doesn't produce the kmod. You really should be asking about this on > the RP

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On 07/19/2010 10:00 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, >Michael Miles wrote: > >> I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to >> be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. >> > Fedora doesn't produce the kmod. You really sho

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53:51 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > > I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to > be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. Fedora doesn't produce the kmod. You really should be asking about this on the RPMfusion mailiing lists. -- user

Still no kmod for new nvidia

Hello there I have been waiting to see if a kmod comes available and there seems to be the wrong one published by RPMfusion. The release is kmod 2.6.32.16-141 for 195-36.31-1 The driver is 195-36.31-2 I am not sure if it miss labelled or just not the right kmod This does not show up in update

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