On Tue, 2015-04-14 at 09:53 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> As someone who's been in the industry for over 40 years, cooling is
> rarely ever given anything but short shrift. When you start stuffing
> lots of heat-generating components (GPUs, multiple CPUs, lots of
> DIMMs) into chassis that are desig
I simply use an expensive but fan-ridden cooler-master gaming pc chassis -
enabled me to install things like disk caddies etc - in fact the chassis is
more important if you ask me than The motherboard since I have upgraded mine
twice since getting the chassis and then I am about to install wate
On 04/13/2015 11:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2015-04-13 at 14:45 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
I agree that on cheap hardware this might be needed, however, I don't
think it's the case on good systems. A lot of thought goes into the
design of the hardware, so things like overheating don't occur.
Speak
On Mon, 2015-04-13 at 14:45 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
> I agree that on cheap hardware this might be needed, however, I don't
> think it's the case on good systems. A lot of thought goes into the
> design of the hardware, so things like overheating don't occur.
Speaking as someone who's done electro
> On 04/12/2015 05:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> <<>>
>
>> This is a SWAG However, checking the differences between a
>> Fedora supplied FF and a downloaded version leads me to suggest
>> editing
>>
>> app.update.enabled to "false"
>
> correct, you are. see #3 below.
>
> not needing, never looked
> On 04/13/2015 12:21 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>Wow, thanks Ed for trying that. Just a thought, but maybe this
>> crashing
>> issue is related to what graphics adapter is being used. I have a Radeon
>> HD 5700 Series which takes up 2 slots to run both of my 23" monitors. If
>> this is the case I
On 04/13/2015 12:21 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
Wow, thanks Ed for trying that. Just a thought, but maybe this crashing
issue is related to what graphics adapter is being used. I have a Radeon
HD 5700 Series which takes up 2 slots to run both of my 23" monitors. If
this is the case I may have to cut
On 04/12/2015 05:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
<<>>
> This is a SWAG However, checking the differences between a
> Fedora supplied FF and a downloaded version leads me to suggest
> editing
>
> app.update.enabled to "false"
correct, you are. see #3 below.
not needing, never looked.
for referenc
> On 04/13/15 04:13, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> You mean like it never crashes for me on F21 but it crashes for you on
>> F14? That kind of evidence?
>
> FWIW, I can't even get it to crash on F14.
>
> Just installed F14 from the original DVD, downloaded the latest version of
> firefox from mozilla, di
On 04/13/15 04:13, Ed Greshko wrote:
> You mean like it never crashes for me on F21 but it crashes for you on F14?
> That kind of evidence?
FWIW, I can't even get it to crash on F14.
Just installed F14 from the original DVD, downloaded the latest version of
firefox from mozilla, did an "rpm -
On 04/12/2015 05:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
<<>>
> Since the OP is running the Firefox downloaded from mozilla.org (as
> am I) he's asking about how to disable the auto updates Mozilla.org
> provides.
oops. my chemo brain over looked that fact. ;-)
> I don't KNOW, but I remember digging into the
On 04/13/15 06:14, Fred Smith wrote:
> Since the OP is running the Firefox downloaded from mozilla.org (as am I)
> he's asking about how to disable the auto updates Mozilla.org provides.
> I don't KNOW, but I remember digging into the "channel" mechanism a few
> years ago, and vaguely recall there
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 04:52:17PM -0500, g wrote:
>
>
> On 04/12/2015 03:48 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> <<>>
> > Does anyone know the right way to make Firefox not auto "upgrade"
> > to the new crappy version when it starts up again?
>
> iirc, and presuming you run yum and not yumex, add;
>
> --e
On 04/12/2015 03:48 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
<<>>
> Does anyone know the right way to make Firefox not auto "upgrade"
> to the new crappy version when it starts up again?
iirc, and presuming you run yum and not yumex, add;
--exclude=firefox*
to command line.
--
peace out.
in a world with ou
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 09:10:01AM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>
>> Oh I see now, you are assuming the problem is with my old OS instead
>> of
>> with Firefox, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
>
> Did you consider the possibility of a corrupt configuration directory?
> Maybe try start
On 04/13/15 03:10, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> On 04/12/15 15:59, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>> Yes, I believe it's about 3 years EOL, and is still 1000 times better
>>> than anything they have put since. That's why I still use it on my main
>>> system.
>> And that is all well and good. But, it is the reason why
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 09:10:01AM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>
> Oh I see now, you are assuming the problem is with my old OS instead of
> with Firefox, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
Did you consider the possibility of a corrupt configuration directory?
Maybe try starting Firefox w
> On 04/12/15 15:59, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> Yes, I believe it's about 3 years EOL, and is still 1000 times better
>> than anything they have put since. That's why I still use it on my main
>> system.
>
> And that is all well and good. But, it is the reason why you shouldn't
> hope for a fix.
>
On 04/12/2015 04:53 AM, poma wrote:
> On 12.04.2015 07:01, g wrote:
>>
>> hello Jim and Fred.
>>
> Did you consider it can actually be a feature?
there is another "f" word that would be more appropriate.
--
peace out.
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6
tc,ha
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:53:13AM +0200, poma wrote:
> On 12.04.2015 07:01, g wrote:
> >
> > hello Jim and Fred.
> >
>
> Did you consider it can actually be a feature?
A negative feature, ppergaps :)
--
Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -
On 04/12/15 15:59, Jim Lewis wrote:
> Yes, I believe it's about 3 years EOL, and is still 1000 times better
> than anything they have put since. That's why I still use it on my main
> system.
And that is all well and good. But, it is the reason why you shouldn't hope
for a fix.
--
If you can
> On 04/12/15 12:28, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> I was
>> worried that maybe none of the versions past 36.0.4 would work on Fedora
>> 14. If this is happening to a lot pf people I have to assume it will get
>> fixed. Maybe not a good assumption seeing how things are done in the
>> software industry today.
On 11 Apr 2015 at 18:28, Jim Lewis wrote:
Date sent: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:28:13 -1000
Subject:Re: Firefox version 37.0.1 crashes on redhat.com
From: "Jim Lewis"
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Send reply to:
On 04/12/15 12:28, Jim Lewis wrote:
> I was
> worried that maybe none of the versions past 36.0.4 would work on Fedora
> 14. If this is happening to a lot pf people I have to assume it will get
> fixed. Maybe not a good assumption seeing how things are done in the
> software industry today.
Not a
On 04/11/2015 09:52 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 04:17:45PM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> Something came up (had to learn 50 songs on drums in 1 week) but
>> I'm back now. I should have mentioned that this crashing problem
>> with 37.0.1 occurs on Fedora 14 64-bit. I went to about
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 04:17:45PM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>
>> Something came up (had to learn 50 songs on drums in 1 week) but I'm
>> back now. I should have mentioned that this crashing problem with 37.0.1
>> occurs on Fedora 14 64-bit. I went to about 20 different sites, watched
>> it cra
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 04:17:45PM -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>
> Something came up (had to learn 50 songs on drums in 1 week) but I'm
> back now. I should have mentioned that this crashing problem with 37.0.1
> occurs on Fedora 14 64-bit. I went to about 20 different sites, watched
> it crash abou
Something came up (had to learn 50 songs on drums in 1 week) but I'm
back now. I should have mentioned that this crashing problem with 37.0.1
occurs on Fedora 14 64-bit. I went to about 20 different sites, watched
it crash about 10 times, and sent in the crash report every time. And
no, it doesn
On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 11:18 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 04/07/2015 05:13 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Firefox has never asked me to update it on Fedora. As has already been
> > suggested, you should uninstall it and install the Fedora repo version
> > using yum.
>
> Fedora's firef
On 04/07/2015 05:13 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Firefox has never asked me to update it on Fedora. As has already been
suggested, you should uninstall it and install the Fedora repo version
using yum.
Fedora's firefox package overrides[1] some of Mozilla's default values. The in-app
update
On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 14:44 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 23:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Firefox has never asked me to update it on Fedora.
>
> Likewise.
>
> And one the major benefits *we* have over other OSs is that all updates
> come from the same place, managed by the
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 23:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Firefox has never asked me to update it on Fedora.
Likewise.
And one the major benefits *we* have over other OSs is that all updates
come from the same place, managed by the same system (yum, or dnf, now).
You don't have to individua
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:00:26 -0400 Paul Cartwright
wrote:
> On 04/07/2015 05:44 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> > I will add that Firefox is now almost unusable on this system. I have
> > disabled the three plugins I have, didn't help. It works fine for about
> > 5 minutes or so then crashes. Fortunate
On 04/07/2015 05:44 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> I will add that Firefox is now almost unusable on this system. I have
> disabled the three plugins I have, didn't help. It works fine for about
> 5 minutes or so then crashes. Fortunately I have other machines. I
> wonder if it will stay up long enough t
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 11:44 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
> > I updated Firefox using the dialog that it throws up in my face
> from
> > time to time. I usually wait since every time I update something it
> > breaks but this time I decided to just do it. Have to say the result
> is
> > not at all unexp
>
>> On 04/07/2015 06:21 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>> I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
>>> upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong
>>> at
>>> first, but when I tried to go to redhat.com it crashed. I filled out
>>> the
>>> dialog thi
> On 04/07/2015 06:21 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
>> upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong
>> at
>> first, but when I tried to go to redhat.com it crashed. I filled out the
>> dialog thing, restarte
On 04/07/2015 06:21 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
> upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong at
> first, but when I tried to go to redhat.com it crashed. I filled out the
> dialog thing, restarted Firefox,
Jim:
I've just upgraded the fedora-supplied FireFox 37.0 on Fedora 20 and
"works fine for me"
Linux myhost.mydomain 3.19.3-100.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Mar 27
16:53:47 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>
> I hope this is not off topic for t
2015-04-07 15:26 GMT+03:00 g :
>
>
> On 04/07/2015 05:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > Jim Lewis writes:
> >> I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
> >> upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong
> at
> >> first, but when I tried to go
On 04/07/2015 05:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jim Lewis writes:
>> I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
>> upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong at
>> first, but when I tried to go to redhat.com it crashed. I filled out the
>>
Jim Lewis writes:
I hope this is not off topic for this group. I decided to let Firefox
upgrade (?) itself to the latest version, 37.0.1. Nothing seemed wrong at
first, but when I tried to go to redhat.com it crashed. I filled out the
dialog thing, restarted Firefox, and went there again. Cras
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