Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Steve Underwood
On 06/19/2010 05:44 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:37 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: > > >> Its true that the 64 bit build of some apps can be slower than the 32 >> bit builds. However, its rarely more than a few percent. Hardly >> noticeable, really. On the other hand, many

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Mike Chambers writes: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:37 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: Its true that the 64 bit build of some apps can be slower than the 32 bit builds. However, its rarely more than a few percent. Hardly noticeable, really. On the other hand, many compute intensive applications tha

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Alan Cox
O> Agreed. First, the 64-bit OS itself should be a bit faster than a 32-bit > OS on the same platform. But, in my experience with 64-bit going back 16 > years there are some applications that will run faster if built for > 32-bit and some will run faster if built for 64-bit. There are some > tr

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:37 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: > Its true that the 64 bit build of some apps can be slower than the 32 > bit builds. However, its rarely more than a few percent. Hardly > noticeable, really. On the other hand, many compute intensive > applications that can make good u

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/18/2010 04:05 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jerry Feldman said: >> But, in my experience with 64-bit going back 16 >> years there are some applications that will run faster if built for >> 32-bit and some will run faster if built for 64-bit. > In the specific case of i386 to x

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jerry Feldman said: > But, in my experience with 64-bit going back 16 > years there are some applications that will run faster if built for > 32-bit and some will run faster if built for 64-bit. In the specific case of i386 to x86_64, you get better performance for 64 bit in m

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/18/2010 03:21 AM, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote: > 2010/6/18 Sam Varshavchik: >> Minor differences are that 64 bit applications are slightly faster, and 64 >> bit lets you use more RAM. > Not always it's faster, everything depend of application one will be > faster one will be slower. > Agreed. Fir

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/10 18:35, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 06/18/2010 04:32 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> I have not had problems running 64bit flash using: >> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205642 > > Except for the published security hole it gives your system. > Granted, you may not have visi

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 06/18/2010 04:32 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > I have not had problems running 64bit flash using: > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205642 Except for the published security hole it gives your system. Granted, you may not have visited a site which exploits it, yet, but, someday,

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/18/2010 02:51 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote: >>> The areas where 64-bit apps is not a good idea is on some >>> applications, in particular Java-based apps. >> >> In most cases that's not really true any more, because of compressed >> OOPs. > > I just saw that.. Interesting and looks to eliminate thos

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: [snip] > Even if you're going to run an app in 32-bit mode, you're still better > off with a 64-bit kernel. Agreed... > >> The areas where 64-bit apps is not a good idea is on some >> applications, in particular Java-based apps. > > In most ca

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Steve Underwood
On 06/18/2010 03:21 PM, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote: > 2010/6/18 Sam Varshavchik: > >> Minor differences are that 64 bit applications are slightly faster, and 64 >> bit lets you use more RAM. >> > Not always it's faster, everything depend of application one will be > faster one will be slower.

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/18/2010 02:00 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Monty wig wrote: >> Hi Gurus, >> >> Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference between >> 32bit and 64bit OS? > > For almost all situations, I don't see any benefit to staying with > 32-bit on serve

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Monty wig wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference between > 32bit and 64bit OS? For almost all situations, I don't see any benefit to staying with 32-bit on servers. There's apparently a narrow case for 32-bit on th

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/10 09:26, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 02:41am on Friday, June 18, 2010 (UK time), Sam Varshavchik scrawled: > >> From a user perspective, the major difference is that there is no >> practical Flash plugin for 64 bit. If you need to watch Youboob, >> you'll have to stick to i386. At least

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Steve Searle
Around 02:41am on Friday, June 18, 2010 (UK time), Sam Varshavchik scrawled: > From a user perspective, the major difference is that there is no > practical Flash plugin for 64 bit. If you need to watch Youboob, > you'll have to stick to i386. At least until Youboob migrates to HTML > 5. However,

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-18 Thread Łukasz Jagiełło
2010/6/18 Sam Varshavchik : > Minor differences are that 64 bit applications are slightly faster, and 64 > bit lets you use more RAM. Not always it's faster, everything depend of application one will be faster one will be slower. -- Łukasz Jagiełło lukaszjagielloorg -- users mailing list users@

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thursday 17 June 2010 08:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 21:28 -0400, Monty wig wrote: >> Hi Gurus, >> >> Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference >> between 32bit and 64bit OS? > > This comes up from time to time here. Here's an authoritative a

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 21:28 -0400, Monty wig wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference > between 32bit and 64bit OS? This comes up from time to time here. Here's an authoritative answer from someone who knows what he's talking about: http://lists.fe

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-17 Thread Abu Attar Musharih
Hi, Two issues related to this, i.e., the capacity and the speed. The 64bit systems means you can store more data accessable faster than the 32bit systems. The 64bit OS should be more powerful, in particular for multitasking. These days, the PC RAM's come with the capacity of 4-10 G, enabling fo

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-17 Thread g
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Minor differences are that 64 bit applications are slightly faster, and 64 > bit lets you use more RAM. so why you do no mention that 64 bit uses more ram? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp ou

Re: 32bit Vs 64bit OS

2010-06-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Monty wig writes: Hi Gurus, Can someone please point me the right direction on the difference between 32bit and 64bit OS? From a user perspective, the major difference is that there is no practical Flash plugin for 64 bit. If you need to watch Youboob, you'll have to stick to i386. At leas