Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

(responding to both Samuel and Jonathan) (Samuel) There's no lockin for the filesystem. Even Fedora server uses a different default than Fedora workstation. But either way, you can select whichever filesystem you want at installation. But I must say that I am loving the subvolume options of

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On Jan 20, 2025, at 23:50, home user via users wrote: > > Am I the only one sensing a business inconsistency in what Fedora and Redhat > are doing? Since Fedora is the upstream for RHEL, and RHEL forks off Fedora, > I would think that they would have the same default file system unless Red >

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On 1/20/25 8:49 PM, home user via users wrote: I'm almost certain that I'll want a dual-boot system on the new workstation: Fedora + one other t.b.d. Linux distribution.  In that situation, does it matter which file system I'll use?  Also, am I correct in assuming that file system choice do not

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

(responding to Patrick, George, and Samuel) Thank-you for your responses. I'm almost certain that I'll want a dual-boot system on the new workstation: Fedora + one other t.b.d. Linux distribution. In that situation, does it matter which file system I'll use? Also, am I correct in assuming th

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On 1/20/25 3:37 PM, George N. White III wrote: filesystems. The advantages of btrfs are not "free" -- btrfs requires maintenance and is not properly supported by legacy tools (df). I still disagree with the "required maintenance" thing and "df" works well enough for almost all purposes. --

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 6:28 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-01-20 at 13:18 -0700, home user via users wrote: > > So Red Hat has abandoned btrfs, XFS is the default. Fedora is upstream for > > RHEL, so... > > * Why is btrfs still default for Fedora? > I'm not party to RHEL's reas

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On Mon, 2025-01-20 at 13:18 -0700, home user via users wrote: > So Red Hat has abandoned btrfs, XFS is the default.  Fedora is upstream for > RHEL, so... > * Why is btrfs still default for Fedora? IIRC Fedora adopted BTRFS as the standard for Workstation *after* RedHat had decided not to use it f

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

7;s currently at 9. What is the default file system in Red Hat Enterprise 9? I genuinely don't mean this as snark, but is there any reason you haven't just STFW-ed [1] this? I'm trying to plan for a new workstation. Robin's post brought questions to mind. I did sear

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 at 19:20, home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > For Red Hat Enterprise, all I've found on the internet is negative (it > does not use...), and nothing more recent that version 8. But it's > currently at 9. > What is the default file system in Red Hat En

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On 1/20/25 11:09 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 1/20/25 1:04 PM, home user via users wrote: On 1/20/25 12:35 AM, Robin Laing wrote: ... I have lost data with LVM's and btrfs at different times in the past and have to regain my trust. ... The Btrfs file system received numerous updates

Re: questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On 1/20/25 1:04 PM, home user via users wrote: On 1/20/25 12:35 AM, Robin Laing wrote: ... I have lost data with LVM's and btrfs at different times in the past and have to regain my trust. ... The Btrfs file system received numerous updates from the upstream in Red Hat Enterprise Linux versi

questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)

On 1/20/25 12:35 AM, Robin Laing wrote: ... I have lost data with LVM's and btrfs at different times in the past and have to regain my trust. ... The Btrfs file system received numerous updates from the upstream in Red Hat Enterprise Linux versions 6.0 through 6.6 and 7.0 through 7.4. It will r

Re: NVMe questions - SOLVED?

On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 08:34 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > Note the quotes have been re-ordered for clarity > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:32 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > # efibootmgr > > BootCurrent: 0001 > [...] > > Boot0001* Fedora    HD(1,GPT,8a303a03-0b91-453a-8555- > > f9627c261f65,0

Re: NVMe questions - SOLVED?

Note the quotes have been re-ordered for clarity On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:32 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > # efibootmgr > BootCurrent: 0001 [...] > Boot0001* Fedora > HD(1,GPT,8a303a03-0b91-453a-8555-f9627c261f65,0x800,0x12c000)/\EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi424f > # blkid [...] > /dev/

Re: NVMe questions

On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 09:21 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > If you clone a disk in a raw mode, the blkid's are the same on both > devices, and since the boot process looks for the blkid to load, it > would be using the first device it sees. > I didn't clone it in raw mode, and t

Re: NVMe questions - SOLVED?

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 23:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've cloned my existing SSD onto a new NVMe drive, copying EFI > (vfat), > /boot (ext4) and root+/home (BTRFS with /home subvolume) partitions > and > editing /etc/fstab appropriately. > > However I hav

Re: NVMe questions

On 28 Jul 2024 at 21:57, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:57:04 -0700 Subject:Re: NVMe questions To: Community support for Fedora users From: Samuel Sieb Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: NVMe questions

On 7/28/24 7:00 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: On 28 Jul 2024 at 17:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:54:13 -0700 Subject:Re: NVMe questions To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb Send reply to

Re: NVMe questions

On 28 Jul 2024 at 17:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:54:13 -0700 Subject:Re: NVMe questions To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users

Re: NVMe questions

On 7/28/24 4:21 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: On 28 Jul 2024 at 18:19, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date sent: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:19:38 -0400 Subject:Re: NVMe questions To: Community support for Fedora users

Re: NVMe questions

On 28 Jul 2024 at 18:19, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date sent: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:19:38 -0400 Subject:Re: NVMe questions To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users

Re: NVMe questions

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 5:42 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I tried disabling the SSD (in the bootable drives list). It made no > difference. Just to be clear - did you disable the drive or just remove it from the bootable list? What we want to do here is prevent the BIOS from reading from the

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 20:04 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 4:36 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > However none of the UUIDs seen by efibootmgr correspond to anything > > on > > any of the drives. > > Re-read my reply.  Both of the efibootmgr variables *do* correspond > to > ex

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 19:40 -0600, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > If you give the FAT file system a volume name (i.e. file system label), > be sure to name it something other than EFI. That can trigger a bug in > some firmwares (due to the volume name matching the EFI directory name) > that will cause

Re: NVMe questions

On 7/27/24 03:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Model: WD_BLACK SN770 2TB (nvme) Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeFile system NameFlags 1 1049kB 269MB 268MB fat32EFI msft

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 4:36 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > However none of the UUIDs seen by efibootmgr correspond to anything on > any of the drives. Re-read my reply. Both of the efibootmgr variables *do* correspond to existing UUIDs. > > Can you disable the SSD in "BIOS"? > Yes, but the NV

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 15:47 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > What I'm not sure of is the "1" in "HD(1,GPT,[...]" - I am thinking > it > refers to the first "hard disk", which if I am right, means at least > one of them is pointing to the correct uuid, but on the wrong disk. > However none of the UUIDs se

Re: NVMe questions

I think quoting levels are getting messed up > $ efibootmgr > BootCurrent: 0001 > Timeout: 1 seconds > BootOrder: 0001,0002 > Boot0001* Fedora > HD(1,GPT,8a303a03-0b91-453a-8555-f9627c261f65,0x800,0x12c000)/\EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi424f > Boot0002* Fedora > HD(1,GPT,e7207d2d-

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 15:17 +0200, Lukas Middendorf wrote: > On 27/07/2024 14:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:00 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > > > - EFI needs a variable that points to the desired disk and the > > > desired > > > partition on that disk > > > - the UUID from t

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 8:57 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: [...] > None of those numbers correspond to any of my UUIDs: [followed by lsblk -fs] Use "blkid" - it will show the UUID of the device and the PARTUUID of the partition for all your disks. -- _

Re: NVMe questions

On 27/07/2024 14:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:00 -0400, Go Canes wrote: - EFI needs a variable that points to the desired disk and the desired partition on that disk - the UUID from the EFI variable needs to match the PARTUUID for the EFI partition on the desired disk

Re: NVMe questions

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:00 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > - EFI needs a variable that points to the desired disk and the > desired > partition on that disk > - the UUID from the EFI variable needs to match the PARTUUID for the > EFI partition on the desired disk >   - the directory from the EFI var shou

Re: NVMe questions

On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 11:59 +0200, Lukas Middendorf wrote: > On 27/07/2024 11:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Model: WD_BLACK SN770 2TB (nvme) > > Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 2000GB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table: gpt > > Disk Flags: > > > > Number  Start   End Siz

Re: NVMe questions

On 27/07/2024 11:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Model: WD_BLACK SN770 2TB (nvme) Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeFile system NameFlags 1 1049kB 269MB 268MB fat32EFI m

Re: NVMe questions

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 18:33 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan composed on 2024-07-26 23:02 (UTC+0100): > > > I ran dracut with the > > UUID of the appropriate root NVMe partition but it made no > > difference. > > What am I missing here? > > What did you do to ensure NVME support is

Re: NVMe questions

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 17:32 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Try posting the output of "sudo parted --list", for my nvme boot > drive it > looks like this: > > Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB (nvme) > Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 500GB > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > Partition Table: gpt > D

Re: NVMe questions

> > editing /etc/fstab appropriately. > > > > However I have a couple of questions: > > > > 1) I'm puzzled that the NVMe drive (a 2TB WD Black) doesn't appear > > as > > bootable in the UEFI screen. This is a new MSI motherboard with 2 > > M

Re: NVMe questions

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 6:03 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I've cloned my existing SSD onto a new NVMe drive, copying EFI (vfat), > /boot (ext4) and root+/home (BTRFS with /home subvolume) partitions and > editing /etc/fstab appropriately. > > However I have a cou

Re: NVMe questions

Try posting the output of "sudo parted --list", for my nvme boot drive it looks like this: Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB (nvme) Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 500GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeFile system Name

Re: NVMe questions

Patrick O'Callaghan composed on 2024-07-26 23:02 (UTC+0100): > I ran dracut with the > UUID of the appropriate root NVMe partition but it made no difference. > What am I missing here? What did you do to ensure NVME support is included in the new initramfs? -- Evolution as taught in public school

Re: NVMe questions

Once upon a time, Mike Wright said: > Which tool did you use to partition the drive? For UEFI I believe > you have to use gparted or gfdisk. That's not true, I think most if not all of the commonly-used tools can partition a drive compatible with UEFI. The partition table needs to be GPT, and s

Re: NVMe questions

On 7/26/24 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I've cloned my existing SSD onto a new NVMe drive, copying EFI (vfat), /boot (ext4) and root+/home (BTRFS with /home subvolume) partitions and editing /etc/fstab appropriately. However I have a couple of questions: 1) I'm puzzled that

NVMe questions

I've cloned my existing SSD onto a new NVMe drive, copying EFI (vfat), /boot (ext4) and root+/home (BTRFS with /home subvolume) partitions and editing /etc/fstab appropriately. However I have a couple of questions: 1) I'm puzzled that the NVMe drive (a 2TB WD Black) doesn't appear

Re: Questions about virtiofs

Any takes on this, guys? Thanks Frank On 2024-03-23 11:30, Frank Bures wrote: Hi, I have several separate file systems, amongst them /home on btrfs and media depository /archives on xfs (RAID-5). I am running Win11 guest in QEMU on F39 host.  I installed winfsp in the guest and I can acces

Questions about virtiofs

Hi, I have several separate file systems, amongst them /home on btrfs and media depository /archives on xfs (RAID-5). I am running Win11 guest in QEMU on F39 host. I installed winfsp in the guest and I can access my /home in Win11 guest. However, if I "Add Hardware" in Virtual HW details a

Re: Fedora 37 - Cockpit Software Update Display Questions

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 10:36:31 -0400 Tom Rivers wrote: > Good morning, > > There are two things that I have noticed lately when performing > upgrades using cockpit: > > 1) When viewing the update log in real time, the display no longer > automatically scrolls to show new entries. > > 2) The "Ve

Fedora 37 - Cockpit Software Update Display Questions

Good morning, There are two things that I have noticed lately when performing upgrades using cockpit: 1) When viewing the update log in real time, the display no longer automatically scrolls to show new entries. 2) The "Verifying" line of text above the progress indicator seems to be missi

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions."). [CLOSED]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 3:33 PM home user wrote: > I have a few minutes to come back to this. > > It seems to me that the font tools do not have a minor bug. Rather, they > were probably fine years ago when fonts were fewer and generally > simpler. Now there are more fonts, and they seem to be mo

Re: font longevity questions. [CLOSED]

Type 1" and which are not? I was hoping that somewhere in its website, Fedora has a list of what comes with it by default. I haven't found one, and no one mentioned one. Another possible solution would be a new, more powerful font tool. See my post to the "font tools (was &quo

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions."). [CLOSED]

I have a few minutes to come back to this. It seems to me that the font tools do not have a minor bug. Rather, they were probably fine years ago when fonts were fewer and generally simpler.  Now there are more fonts, and they seem to be more complicated.  So either the font tools need major en

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 2:14 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > A font viewer should only use the system font folders and any modern > font viewer will use fontconfig, which won't be looking in random > directories. > The fontconfig system has a well defined way to configure the directories it searches,

Re: font longevity questions.

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:03 PM home user wrote: [...] > 1. What fonts are by default automatically installed by Fedora (whether > by a new install or by "dnf system-upgrade"? Equivalently, which of the > fonts on my work station were put there by Fedora itself, and which were > installed by oth

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Tue, 2022-05-24 at 22:14 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > A font viewer should only use the system font folders and any modern > font viewer will use fontconfig, which won't be looking in random > directories. It's not really random directories, though. There's the everyone's fonts in a system lo

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/24/22 19:39, Tim via users wrote: Tim: [re duplicates of some fonts] That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.afm /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.otf /usr/share/fonts/urw

Re: font longevity questions.

On Tue, 2022-05-24 at 21:01 -0600, home user wrote: > 1. What fonts are by default automatically installed by Fedora > (whether by a new install or by "dnf system-upgrade"? Equivalently, > which of the fonts on my work station were put there by Fedora > itself, and which were installed by other pa

Re: font longevity questions.

On 5/13/22 10:23 AM, home user wrote: On 5/10/22 9:21 AM, home user wrote: I'd like to suspend this thread for a few days while I go to the LibreOffice community with a few LibreOffice-specific questions. thanks, Bill. Back to this. According to the LibreOffice community, LibreO

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

Tim: [re duplicates of some fonts] >> That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. >> >> [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold >> /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.afm >> /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.otf >> /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/24/22 1:28 PM, home user wrote: On 5/23/22 10:09 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 14:05 -0600, home user wrote: are some fonts actually on my work station twice? That can happen.  Different things may provide those fonts. [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold /usr/share/

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/24/22 4:37 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/24/22 12:41, home user wrote: On 5/24/22 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/23/22 22:45, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: [... snip ...] I don't see the problem, but if you really have a problem with how th

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 1:18 AM Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 14:05 -0600, home user wrote: > > are some fonts actually on my work station twice? > > That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. > > [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold > /usr/share/fonts/urw-base3

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:41 PM home user wrote: > On 5/24/22 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 5/23/22 22:45, Tim via users wrote: > >> On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >>> You're not seeing the whole name. If you click on them, you'll see > >>> they are different. Reg

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/24/22 12:41, home user wrote: On 5/24/22 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/23/22 22:45, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: You're not seeing the whole name.  If you click on them, you'll see they are different.  Regular and 3 types of condensed. T

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/23/22 21:09, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 14:05 -0600, home user wrote: are some fonts actually on my work station twice? That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.afm /u

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/24/22 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/23/22 22:45, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: You're not seeing the whole name.  If you click on them, you'll see they are different.  Regular and 3 types of condensed. That's how I knew they were 4 differe

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/23/22 10:09 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 14:05 -0600, home user wrote: are some fonts actually on my work station twice? That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.afm

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/23/22 22:45, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: You're not seeing the whole name. If you click on them, you'll see they are different. Regular and 3 types of condensed. Terrible GUI design if it doesn't give you some indication that the name's bee

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 21:23 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > You're not seeing the whole name. If you click on them, you'll see > they are different. Regular and 3 types of condensed. Terrible GUI design if it doesn't give you some indication that the name's been truncated. Are users supposed to aro

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On 5/23/22 13:05, home user wrote: notice 4 fonts called "Noto Sans".  They are different from each other. Notice 4 fonts called "Noto Sans, Bold".  They are different from each other.  There are other examples.  This is only my opinion, but they should have different names.  Is the problem in

Re: font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 14:05 -0600, home user wrote: > are some fonts actually on my work station twice? That can happen. Different things may provide those fonts. [tim@rocky ~]$ locate NimbusMonoPS-Bold /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bold.afm /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35/NimbusMonoPS-Bo

font tools (was "font longevity questions.").

(Fedora 35) In the original post of the "font longevity questions/", I said: > By the way, why do so many fonts show up twice > in the font selection tools? First, the only fonts I recall installing myself are the "Nimbus Roman No9 L" fonts. The tools are (in gno

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/19/22 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. Tried manual install on F35 system s

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On Wed, 18 May 2022 22:32:49 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > It's a common convention used in the rpm packaging to indicate what > you're needing instead of specifying a specific package. The > required "library" (or whatever) could move to another package and it > wouldn't matter. But it's just as

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. Tried manual install on F35 system sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/18/22 07:31, stan via users wrote: Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client). They don't work on the command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what information they are conveying. The explanation of thi

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. Tried manual install on F35 system sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math and got this strange result Error: Pr

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On 5/18/22 10:31, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. Tried manual install on F35 system sudo dnf install libreoffice-ba

Re: LibreOffice Base questions

On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: > Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have > libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. > > Tried manual install on F35 system > > sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math > > and g

LibreOffice Base questions

Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed. Tried manual install on F35 system sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math and got this strange result Error: Problem: conflicting requests  - package libreoffice-

Re: font longevity questions.

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 12:07 PM George N. White III wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 2:35 PM Tom Mitchell wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:21 AM home user wrote: >> > >> > Good morning, >> > >> > I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old, .. >> Backup a

Re: font longevity questions.

On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 07:42 -0600, James Szinger wrote: > Try markdown if LaTeX is too complicated. Markdown is a simple, > text-based markup language that can be automatically converted to > other formats, including HTML, LaTeX, PDF, and MS Word. I may have another look at these. I don't partic

Re: font longevity questions.

On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 07:42 -0600, James Szinger wrote: > I don’t grok word processors.  Plain text is just as good for simple > documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting.  Many > of the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess. To paraphrase Brian Kernighan: WYSIWYG m

Re: font longevity questions.

On Sat, 14 May 2022 11:21:32 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 07:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I'd briefly looked at LaTex, decided it was more pain that is worth > for *me* to learn, but lots of people provide that same advice. > Having been down the road, before, of u

Re: font longevity questions.

On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 11:21 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > I'd briefly looked at LaTex, decided it was more pain that is worth > for *me* to learn, but lots of people provide that same advice.  > Having been down the road, before, of using proprietary word proc doc > formats that couldn't be used el

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On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 10:23 -0600, home user wrote: >> By the way, why do so many fonts show up twice in the font >> selection tools? I can't say I've noticed that, but I haven't installed lots of fonts recently. It's many years since I went on a font binge. I can think of a few things: The top

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On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 07:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > LaTeX and ConTeXt source files are plain text, and with markup is > intended to convey structure. The choices for fonts and > "decorations" are provided in "styles". Publishers often provide > their own styles to authors. That's ho

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On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 2:35 PM Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:21 AM home user wrote: > > > > Good morning, > > > > I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old, > > that I'm converting to LibreOffice Writer in Fedora-35. I'm having to > > do this in

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On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:21 AM home user wrote: > > Good morning, > > I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old, > that I'm converting to LibreOffice Writer in Fedora-35. I'm having to > do this in 3 steps Add a 4th step to your checklist. Backup and transfer the

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On 5/10/22 9:21 AM, home user wrote: I'd like to suspend this thread for a few days while I go to the LibreOffice community with a few LibreOffice-specific questions. thanks, Bill. Good morning, I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old, that I'm

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On 5/12/22 7:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 21:37 -0600, home user wrote: I did some serious experimenting this past winter. Writer could not adequately handle the word-2010 documents. I even tried first converting the word-2010 documents to word-2016. Writer could not adeq

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On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 10:31 PM Tim via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 21:37 -0600, home user wrote: > > I did some serious experimenting this past winter. Writer could not > > adequately handle the word-2010 documents. I even tried first > > converting th

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On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 21:37 -0600, home user wrote: > I did some serious experimenting this past winter. Writer could not > adequately handle the word-2010 documents. I even tried first > converting the word-2010 documents to word-2016. Writer could not > adequately handle those. Either way,

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Tim: >> There are are lookup tables that allow automatic substitution of >> unavailable fonts. You can configure your own choices in them, so >> when you load a file with missing fonts it substitutes your choice >> when it displays it. You don't have to modify the document. Bill: > I looked at t

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On 5/11/22 3:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 5/11/22 15:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: You could copy the Doc files to Fedora and open them directly in Writer.  Save them in ODT format only when you need to edit them. Or, just leave them as .doc files if/when you edit them.  LO has no problem with that.

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On 5/11/22 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/10/22 08:21, home user wrote: [... snip ...] 2. Writer files are copied to my Fedora workstation. Why don't you just copy the font files from Windows to your Fedora system?  Then you won't have to change it.  Also, why are you copying the conten

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On 5/11/22 15:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: You could copy the Doc files to Fedora and open them directly in Writer.  Save them in ODT format only when you need to edit them. Or, just leave them as .doc files if/when you edit them. LO has no problem with that. __

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On 5/10/22 08:21, home user wrote: I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old, that I'm converting to LibreOffice Writer in Fedora-35.  I'm having to do this in 3 steps: 1. In windows-7, content is copied from the word files to Writer files. Tweaks are made to lin

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On 5/10/22 7:41 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2022-05-10 at 09:21 -0600, home user wrote: [... snip ...] There are are lookup tables that allow automatic substitution of unavailable fonts. You can configure your own choices in them, so when you load a file with missing fonts it substitutes

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On 5/10/22 3:46 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:21 PM home user > wrote: [... snip ...] 2. Writer files are copied to my Fedora workstation. Unfortunately, neither Times New Roman nor Vivaldi are available in Fedora-35.  So I

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On Tue, 2022-05-10 at 09:21 -0600, home user wrote: > Unfortunately, neither Times New Roman nor Vivaldi are available in > Fedora-35. So I need a step 3: to convert the fonts to choices that > are available in Fedora-35, and are expected to be available for a > long time to come. It's that last

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