Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-23 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 013 013 036Pre-fail >> Always FAILING_NOW 3587 > > What the other respondents missed is that this is the *reallocated* > sector count. It is a count of the sectors that have already be

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Paul Smith writes: > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 013 013 036Pre-fail > Always FAILING_NOW 3587 What the other respondents missed is that this is the *reallocated* sector count. It is a count of the sectors that have already been replaced by spares. There are no unreadable fi

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 08:26:37AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/22/2013 05:12 AM, Tim wrote: > >Allegedly, on or about 21 June 2013, Tom Horsley sent: > >>Just remember what happened when HAL told Dave the AE-35 > >>unit would fail in 24 hours :-). > > > >Read the book, it's much more comprehensi

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread poma
On 22.06.2013 17:26, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/22/2013 05:12 AM, Tim wrote: >> Allegedly, on or about 21 June 2013, Tom Horsley sent: >>> Just remember what happened when HAL told Dave the AE-35 >>> unit would fail in 24 hours :-). >> >> Read the book, it's much more comprehensive than the film (whic

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Read the book, it's much more comprehensive than the film (which was >> shortened, significantly). There's a lot more to that part of the plot >> than the film conveys. Joe Zeff: > ROTFLMAO! The film was based on a short story, *The Sentinal,* By > Arthur C. Clark, I know, and there's

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/22/2013 05:12 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 21 June 2013, Tom Horsley sent: Just remember what happened when HAL told Dave the AE-35 unit would fail in 24 hours :-). Read the book, it's much more comprehensive than the film (which was shortened, significantly). There's a lot mor

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread David G . Miller
Paul Smith gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:48 AM, David G. Miller davenjudy.org> wrote: > > Chiming in with some additional information that only *partially* > > contradicts certain things that have been said in this thread. First off > > though, the advice that drives are che

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 21 June 2013, Tom Horsley sent: > Just remember what happened when HAL told Dave the AE-35 > unit would fail in 24 hours :-). Read the book, it's much more comprehensive than the film (which was shortened, significantly). There's a lot more to that part of the plot than the

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:48 AM, David G. Miller wrote: > Chiming in with some additional information that only *partially* > contradicts certain things that have been said in this thread. First off > though, the advice that drives are cheap and data is expensive is absolutely > correct. Do NOT

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread David G . Miller
Chiming in with some additional information that only *partially* contradicts certain things that have been said in this thread. First off though, the advice that drives are cheap and data is expensive is absolutely correct. Do NOT let anything I say talk you out of making sure any critical data

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread jdow
On 2013/06/21 15:32, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM, jdow wrote: Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data regularly.

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Dave Ihnat
I apologize for not more closely following this thread; if this has already been suggested, please just take it as reinforcement. Once, long ago--actually, on Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:09:09PM CDT--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: > Paul, when disks start throwing that error it's typically "months"

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/21/2013 04:02 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Joe. After having created an iso file that mirrors my disk, how can I clone the new disk with this iso file? I don't know; have you checked the documentation on the website? I've always used it to clone disks directly. -- users mailing list u

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Paul Smith wrote: >> Even better, if your new drive is larger than the current on would be >> Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ because you can have it adjust the size >> of the partition to match the drive instead of having wasted space at the >> end. > > > Than

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Even better, if your new drive is larger than the current on would be > Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ because you can have it adjust the size > of the partition to match the drive instead of having wasted space at the > end. Thanks, Joe. A

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/21/2013 03:09 PM, jdow wrote: Paul, when disks start throwing that error it's typically "months" or less before it does something unfriendly like failing to spin up. Put a replacement drive high on your list of things to do. Done soon enough a "dd" disk copy may salvage your current install

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM, jdow wrote: Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data regularly. A parameter out o

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread jdow
On 2013/06/21 09:24, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data regu

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: To me, it is a bit surprising how the failure of the hard disk can be predicted (and with a time projection)! >>> >>> >>> One of the lines you listed was the "reallocated sector count". >>> Basically, when you buy a 500G drive, it rea

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/21/2013 11:57 AM, Paul Smith issued this missive: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Chris Adams wrote: To me, it is a bit surprising how the failure of the hard disk can be predicted (and with a time projection)! One of the lines you listed was the "reallocated sector count". Basically,

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> To me, it is a bit surprising how the failure of the hard disk can be >> predicted (and with a time projection)! > > One of the lines you listed was the "reallocated sector count". > Basically, when you buy a 500G drive, it really has more spa

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Smith said: > To me, it is a bit surprising how the failure of the hard disk can be > predicted (and with a time projection)! One of the lines you listed was the "reallocated sector count". Basically, when you buy a 500G drive, it really has more space than that. Some of t

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data regularly. A paramete

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 06/21/2013 11:46 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/21/2013 09:24 AM, Lawrence Graves issued this missive: On 06/21/2013 10:21 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/21/2013 11:17 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has re

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/21/2013 09:24 AM, Lawrence Graves issued this missive: On 06/21/2013 10:21 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/21/2013 11:17 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its norma

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:24:10 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA. Just remember what happened when HAL told Dave the AE-35 unit would fail in 24 hours :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/21/2013 11:24 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Steven Stern > wrote: >>> Today, I am getting this message at boot time: >>> >>> "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has >>> exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you bac

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 06/21/2013 10:21 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/21/2013 11:17 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> Today, I am getting this message at boot time: >> >> "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has >> exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up >> your data regularly. A parameter out of r

Re: OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/21/2013 11:17 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > Today, I am getting this message at boot time: > > "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has > exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up > your data regularly. A parameter out of ra

OT: Hard drive warning at boot time

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, Today, I am getting this message at boot time: "Notice - HD self monitoring system has reported that a parameter has exceeded its normal operating range. Dell recommends that you back up your data regularly. A parameter out of range may or may not indicate a potential Hard.Press F