Yum in 'diff' mode (was:Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason)

On Friday, May 13, 2011 09:01:57 AM Joel Rees wrote: > If I have, say, 90M of updated packages, are you saying that having > the old packages in my cache somehow saves bandwidth? Has yum been > upgraded to run in diff mode, then? That would be good news, indeed, > although I haven't seen such evid

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

You know, I'm sitting here trying to figure out what exactly you're trying to say, and I thought about the diference between clean metadata and clean all. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:46 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> Yesterday's metadata: 15M >> Yesterday's

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 18:33 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > BTW, another way to share repo downloads is by creating a local repo and > > updating it first, then the other machines on the local network. > > > > You can of course hav

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > BTW, another way to share repo downloads is by creating a local repo and > updating it first, then the other machines on the local network. > You can of course have a local repo - though that will likely use a lot more disk space and

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 15:16 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > I haven't tried other options such as "yum clean headers" or "yum clean > > dbcache". I also have a 1Mbps connection and re-downloading all those > > package files is painf

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On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I haven't tried other options such as "yum clean headers" or "yum clean > dbcache". I also have a 1Mbps connection and re-downloading all those > package files is painful, especially as the files themselves are never > the source of th

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:46 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > I have had my cache clogged on occasion, preventing security updates > from downloading, which is why I tend to use the clean all option. On the (rare) occasions I've had yum acting up, "yum clean metadata" fixes it well over 90% of the time. A

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:46 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Yesterday's metadata: 15M > Yesterday's downloads: 90M > > 17% additional bandwidth burden. > > Today, no downloads, so it would be nothing but overhead. > > I'm not sure, since the mirrors I usually connect to are on gigabit > pipes (and

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Tim wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan: >>> You already did that using "yum clean all". Note that "yum clean >>> packages" would probably have freed almost as much space without >>> removing yum metadata, which is why I suggested it earlier. > > Joel Rees: >> Good point

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> You already did that using "yum clean all". Note that "yum clean >> packages" would probably have freed almost as much space without >> removing yum metadata, which is why I suggested it earlier. > > Good point. > > I personally like to avoid st

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Patrick O'Callaghan: >> You already did that using "yum clean all". Note that "yum clean >> packages" would probably have freed almost as much space without >> removing yum metadata, which is why I suggested it earlier. Joel Rees: > Good point. > > I personally like to avoid stale metadata, so I

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

(Not to be a spelling nazi, but, ...) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > [...] > Since you (wisely) use yum for package installation/removal, you > shouldn't touch /var or /user directly but check which package owns it /usr > and consider removing the package, e.g. >

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 15:46 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi everyone: > > Well, thanks a lot for all your helping, all the goodwill and your advices. > I think I must clarify few points right now, for don't confuse you more. > > Well as I told you I did my installation over an

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > And according to Joel Rees who suggested a step by step method, I applied > the YUM clean all before and it helped me. Thanks Now I have 840 MB free. I > have not tar files there and in fact as I checked before, the main prob

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Hi everyone: Well, thanks a lot for all your helping, all the goodwill and your advices. I think I must clarify few points right now, for don't confuse you more. Well as I told you I did my installation over an old Dell Optiplex GX260 with a Pentium4 CPU, 2 GB in RAM DDR @ 400 MHz and using an ol

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:42:26 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Downloading and running binaries from trusted places is nothing > unheard of in the Linux world I´m sure, like when you download and run > those binary ATI drivers for Linux... ;-P Just because they are signed by someone, doesn

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tim wrote: > , because it makes any > multi-GHz computer that I try it on run like a lame dog.  Even worse > than Flash. Not here. I run Vuze (the Bittorrent client) daily, along with several Java desktop apps. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

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Tim: >> Java is supposed to be sandboxed, as part of the "protect your computer" >> security mindset. But I begin to doubt whether any browser actually >> does that. Fernando Cassia: > You´re confusing "applets" that run sandboxed inside the VM and > browser, with no local file access, with JAVA

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Tim wrote: > > Java is supposed to be sandboxed, as part of the "protect your computer" > security mindset.  But I begin to doubt whether any browser actually > does that. You´re confusing "applets" that run sandboxed inside the VM and browser, with no local file a

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 19:18 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > I do have something against web applets that gratuitously access your > file system. Recommend against that, as a matter of policy and > principle. It's the kind of security slippery-slope that Microsoft so > blithely rides their software down.

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On 06/05/11 04:04, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi again: > > Thanks once more for all your helping. Well, I don't know if baobab can > help me or if its installed or how to search for it (is it a joke?, I > have not space and are you suggesting me to install more things? ¬¬), > I'm try

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

erk. On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > [...] > Finally, someone mentioned du and dh. Unless you have partitioned that > 10G disk (I'm guessing not.) du won't do much for you, but it also has > the -h (human readable) option. I'm losing touch in my old age. Make that du and df,

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Looking at all the confusing advice you've been given, I'm going to start over from scratch. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi everybody: > > I didi about a month ago an instalation of Fedora14 inisde an old Dell > Optiplex Gx260 using an IDE HDD with onl

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/05/2011 11:04 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: >> Hi again: >> > >> /var: >> /cache 2.3 GB > >  As root in a terminal do: > >     yum clean all > >  Your cache needs a scrub. du -s /var/cache/yum or du -h /var/cache/yum will

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 22:32 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus > wrote: > I don't know if something is wrong, could u help me? > > You should run JDiskReport. It´s agreat way to INTERACTIVELY see where > your free space w

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

I'm surprised nobody mentioned du or df. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On 05/05/2011 11:04 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi again: > > /var: > /cache 2.3 GB As root in a terminal do: yum clean all Your cache needs a scrub. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 01:25 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus > wrote: > > and > > > > /var: > > /cache 2.3 GB > > About twice a year I just wipe out /var/cache/yum with 'rm -rf > /var/cache/yum/*'. > > AFAIK it doesn´t do any harm.

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > and > > /var: > /cache 2.3 GB About twice a year I just wipe out /var/cache/yum with 'rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*'. AFAIK it doesn´t do any harm. 2.3GB on a 10Gig drive is a lot of space. FC -- users mailing list users@list

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On 05/05/11 21:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 23:41 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Michael Wiktowy >> wrote: >> >>> Isn't that what baobab is for? >>> >> Why is it that every time a useful Java based application is mentioned >> someone feel

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 23:41 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Michael Wiktowy > wrote: > > > Isn't that what baobab is for? > > > > Why is it that every time a useful Java based application is mentioned > someone feels the need to jump in, destroy the magic moment,

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi again: > > Thanks once more for all your helping. Well, I don't know if baobab can help > me or if its installed or how to search for it (is it a joke?, I have not > space and are you suggesting me to install more things?

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Hi again: Thanks once more for all your helping. Well, I don't know if baobab can help me or if its installed or how to search for it (is it a joke?, I have not space and are you suggesting me to install more things? ¬¬), I'm trying the JDiskReport but also not installed, (I don't know how to inst

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On 05/05/11 18:50, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:34 PM, JD > wrote: > > See what package they are part of: > rpm -qf --whatprovides PathName-Of-The_File_You_Wish_To_Delete > > > That is assuming it´s packages which is filling up his HD. It

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Michael Wiktowy > wrote: >> >> Isn't that what baobab is for? > > Why is it that every time a useful Java based application is mentioned > someone feels the need to jump in, destroy the magic moment, and me

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > Isn't that what baobab is for? > Why is it that every time a useful Java based application is mentioned someone feels the need to jump in, destroy the magic moment, and mention a non-java one, as if by trying and running a useful Java base

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Hi;  you can also use konqueror to see your drive. file:/home/mick or file:/ View->View Mode->File Size View You can click STOP to save time, or just let it go. I use it all the time. Mick Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first. # find / -name "*your base

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus > wrote: >> >> I don't know if something is wrong, could u help me? > > You should run JDiskReport. It´s agreat way to INTERACTIVELY see where your > free space went. > > http

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus < arad...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Fernando, I've got java for the LibreOffice, so I hope don't have > any problem. Let me check nad I'll tell you what happen. > > Aradnix > I don´t currently have JDiskReport installed but I´ve us

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:34 PM, JD wrote: > See what package they are part of: > rpm -qf --whatprovides PathName-Of-The_File_You_Wish_To_Delete > That is assuming it´s packages which is filling up his HD. It could be browser temp files or media player (VLC) temp files, who knows. FC -- users

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Thanks Fernando, I've got java for the LibreOffice, so I hope don't have any problem. Let me check nad I'll tell you what happen. Aradnix -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guide

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On 05/05/11 18:19, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi again: > > Thanks for the helping, and following the suggestion of Patrick I > could set free a little bit of more space, also I uninstalled few > programs in fact I don't need. But I have a lot of space used and I > don't see clear

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus < arad...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if something is wrong, could u help me? You should run JDiskReport. It´s agreat way to INTERACTIVELY see where your free space went. http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/ It show

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Hi again: Thanks for the helping, and following the suggestion of Patrick I could set free a little bit of more space, also I uninstalled few programs in fact I don't need. But I have a lot of space used and I don't see clear why. I logged as root and then I made an ls for can see the contenst ins

Re: Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 17:25 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi everybody: > > I didi about a month ago an instalation of Fedora14 inisde an old Dell > Optiplex Gx260 using an IDE HDD with only 10 GB. It's for a project, so I > have anything inside /home, only my accounts, and few a

Fedora14 is filling up my HDD without a reason

Hi everybody: I didi about a month ago an instalation of Fedora14 inisde an old Dell Optiplex Gx260 using an IDE HDD with only 10 GB. It's for a project, so I have anything inside /home, only my accounts, and few additional packages as LibreOffice, gimp, inkscape, and many python libraries for the