Have to keep reinstalling LILO was Re: UEFI is a POS

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > There is a default location for the EFI loader that Fedora is not using (but > is for USB/CD). While we are on the subject of boot loaders: I have been wiping hard disks from systems that are no longer in use. One disk, which had bee

Re: "Please verify your user details" when trying to access a Windows 7 share

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Running Windows 7 in a virtual machine, I shared a folder, publically. I > told Windows to share it with "Everyone". > > Back in Fedora, I choose "Connect to server" option in the "Computer" window > from the Gnome desktop, change the type

Re: Wanted, one complete, concise Samba setup HOWTO

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Doug wrote: > > I second that. I have been searching for a simple instruction on > how to set up a peer-to-peer network that includes Windows > (Win 7 and XP) and Linux, and does so in plain English. My > Win 7 knows there is a printer attached to my Linux machin

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:35 AM, nomnex wrote: >> On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 07:52:40 -0400 >> Robert Myers wrote: >> >> >> Robert Myers, Fedora Oddity > > Ground control to Dr trololo-Meyer, Take your protein pills and put your > helmet on (Ten) Ground co

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

to tell others how to behave comes from where? I don't believe I have ever characterized you or anyone else as a Luddite. I have characterized you and others as being entirely lacking in manners. That wouldn't bother me so much, except that you are self-righteous on the subject. The self-

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

a person. No one and no thing would ever shut you up, so I guess that we *are* going to be here for a long time. Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: h

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

s > just a mind set some people have. I can only say that I prefer to use what I > LIKE, and then keep the complaints to a minimum, or to not even complain at > all... > > Not to worry. Just as soon as you stop talking about me, I'll disappear. If you want to refer to some

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

person being wrong. What difference does it make? If, on the other hand, you don't understand how dangerous, destructive, and repulsive mob behavior is, then, as I have suggested already, get some help. You are a menace to a peacefully-functioning society. Robert Myers -- users mailing list use

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/06/2012 01:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> >> When you are a part of a group of people that has decided to >> marginalize or to gang up on someone, and you are an active >> contributor, Joe, you are in no pos

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

er than what this list has gotten itself. I've never seen that happen, so I just happily play along until the crowd runs out of rocks or gets bored with the game. I know what's going on here. Do you? Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

tempt to pass the Turing test. If everyone here has a compulsive need to have the last word, we're going to be here for a very long time. Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/06/2012 12:54 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> >> I could have saved you an awful lot of trouble. I'm not a gentleman, >> I have no aim to be, and I try not to spend too much time around >> people who think that wh

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

ing the details of manipulating others that you don't actually know how to do anything? Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedora

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

I'm sure I wouldn't be competent to judge them, just as I am quite certain that you are not competent to judge mine--and I really don't care, anyway. Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

o read or respond to anything. Just how thick are you? Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gu

Re: Please Relax was: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

-mail inbox is jammed full of stuff I don't read. People here don't realize that an Internet thread and a cell phone conversation in a public place work differently? It's worse than I thought. You don't need anyone's permission, concurrence, or anything else to move on.

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: > "As for the bullies here who think of themselves as the Internet police but > who in reality are no better than a street gang, make the world a better > place and find a competent therapist > Robert Myers." > &

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

't for me. On Ubuntu, NetBIOS and Flash run right out of the box, which they never have for me on Fedora. > Gee, thanks for lecturing me on what a distro is and the point that > different distros have different origins. DOH! *rolleyes* > You've got the rolling eyes in the wron

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> >> , and Fedora >> doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. > > >If seeking a linux windows look-alike then maybe zorin may be it? > ¨Zorin OS

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

raction with humans that they have no clue as to how to act like one? Thank you for the suggestion on mint. Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http:

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

neither. I will probably keep instances of Fedora running and I will probably continue futzing around with trying to find a real bare-metal solution that isn't a commercial ripoff. Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

othing but an insult? The "ridiculous" overgeneralizations are widely-shared beliefs, whether they fit your criteria for being true or even sensible or not. How old are you? Twelve? Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chan

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exact hardware >> should

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

might be a good idea to spend it on enterprises with a possible positive outcome. Trying to influence me as you have would not be on such a list. Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> Flash actually works for Windows, and I need Flash (I know...pathetic, isn't >> it?) > > Adobe gets in bed with Google to promote Chrome and makes Flash

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/04/2012 10:35 AM, Robert Myers wrote: >> Because I have a significant if not especially visible investment in both >> time and >> emotion. I'm just not as visible as some of the more aggressive >>

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/04/2012 09:10 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > Maybe I'll be sufficiently frustrated with Ubuntu that something else > will happen > > in the end, but, right now, it's looking like Windows for the laptop and &

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > >> Fedora >> doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. >> > > And why should it? That would be setting the bar far, far too low. You can say whate

And don't let the door hit you on the way out

while, but I think I can see the last station on the line. I wish I could say it's been fun. Robert Myers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraprojec

Re: F17 XDMCP

and processors/graphics cards have become mature enough that it is all usable. *Then* Windows becomes a mere display manager with a working flash, and away you go, even if you have to use Chrome under Windows to display some media. Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: F17 XDMCP

a desktop is or what its powers are, and that problem is absolutely fundamental. Robert Myers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailin

Re: Are you a Linux Expert?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 27/01/12 17:55, Francesco Principe wrote: > >> We have the community for you... >> Join Now! >> http://www.**linuxexpertcommunity.com/ >> > > Ah no, I'm happhy here. > > What Linux expert would click o

Re: Does Fedora repair itself..? What can't/doesn't Fedora repair in itself..?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > Is there a Fedora package that can send an active front-lines point, > crawling through the whole OS, determining and repairing any new > damage.. to fix it with an always clean secondary read only image, after > custom configs done and locked

Re: HELP!!! System messed up!

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > Ok... I have switched from noveau driver to the nVidia driver. That helps. > Except I use XFCE4 as my window manager and the main bar at the top of > every window is missing on the local console. HOWEVER, it works fine in VNC. > I don't under

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 10/16/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:06:10 +0530 >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> That seems to be a bug.  You should consider reporting it. >> Looks like someone already did. I added some info to it: >> >>

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Craig White wrote: > > Revisiting a thread where you tried to pass off poorly informed opinions > as facts seemed to be rather unnecessary. > If you substitute "is" for "seemed to be rather" from the previous sentence, you obtain a clean, readable sentence in En

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Craig White wrote: >> > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 20:29 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 201

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:30 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 10/16/2011 04:24 AM, John Aldrich wrote: >>>> On Thu October 13 2011, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/16/2011 04:24 AM, John Aldrich wrote: >> On Thu October 13 2011, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: The adults also realize that Fedora already has a process pretty much exactly as Thomas described, and participate in it if they want to

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: > On 10/12/2011 09:35 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> Forget it.  Computer software types understand neither physics nor >> mathematics, nor, for the most part, how computers actually work. >> >> In order for

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Thomas Dineen wrote: > >      Maybe we need to have Forum like this one where we discuss > and approve these changes before they are implemented? > Forget it. Computer software types understand neither physics nor mathematics, nor, for the most part, how compute

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 19:25 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM, linux guy wrote: >> >> > >> > I'm finding the online documentation for Samba to be umm... wanting.  I'll &g

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 20:29 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, linux guy wrote: >> > Surely its not that hard to get Samba going. >> > >> > If it wasn't worth the effort,

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, linux guy wrote: > Surely its not that hard to get Samba going. > > If it wasn't worth the effort, how else did you enable file sharing on a > mixed client network ? > > Has anyone gotten Samba working from a virgin F15 install ? > If you want it to work out of th

Re: Samba problems. Samba master fight with Linksys E4200 wireless router with storage ?

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM, linux guy wrote: > > I'm finding the online documentation for Samba to be umm... wanting.  I'll > post up a little HOWTO when I get my NAS going. > Samba how-to's always have a short shelf-life, because Microsoft wants to make it as hard as possible. In getting

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Still can't ssh from Linux to XP/Cygwin or push to XP/Cygwin as I > don't know how to tell my Linux boxes about the dynamic ip of the XP > box, but that would just be gravy as I can use mail to get files from > Linux to XP. > You can ru

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:33 PM, jdow wrote: > Why not just use samba? Works like a champ here for a mixed bag of > about a dozen computers, occasional Macs, several 'ix, and several > MS boxes XP through 7. Why make it harder on yourself than necessary? > Same reason I abandoned KVM. I got tir

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Also, my mouse has a tendency to be "jumpy" under > Linux when switching between windoze and Fedora. Just bumping the mouse can > cause all sorts of mayhem! That was the recurring problem that made me abandon KVM. Usually I could fix it, bu

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > I tried to resist asking about this, but I can't help myself as it would > solve some problems that I just assumed were not answerable. > > But I will only take baby-steps. > > How can one ssh from a cygwin shell to a Fedora box? My XP

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Craig White wrote: > > That said it has worked flawlessly for all this time. The only problem > is when I switch back to Linux, I do have to be careful as the mouse is > jumpy until 2 seconds after the first click so I have learned not to > move it but just click

Re: Need KVM switch

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am > sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux > box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also > doesn't pass alon

Re: I think we need a discussion

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:07 PM, stan wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:38:01 -0400 > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> See: >> >> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/degnome.html >> >> The link in there points to: >> >> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/sample-fvwm.tar.bz2

Re: I think we need a discussion

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:08 PM, David L. Gehrt wrote: > These are a  few thoughts that have  been fermenting in my mind,  but I view > this  email as  only a  possible set  of discussion  topics.  Anyway, I feel > better having said this. > > I  am a  long  time  user of  UNIX/Linux  distribution

virtual keyboards with vmware and fc14

fc14 using vmware player under windows 7. No virtual keyboard works completely: gok--nothing but an incomprehensible menu, nothing in the system menus. Never got a keyboard to appear. florence--keys press but aren't passed along to the application matchbox-keyboard--worked until I had to enter

Re: Any Fedora that would run SANE/SSHD on an ancient 486sx with 8MB RAM?

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I wonder if there's any Fedora (1.0? :) that would run on a 486sx-33 > system with 8MB of RAM. > > I don't need a GUI. My intent is to connect an ancient SCSI based > scanner through a PCMCIA SCSI interface, and run SANE on it. Perhaps > inv

Re: Trouble Installing Fedora 14 on VMware 7.1.3

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: > I have VMWorkstation 7.1.3 installed on my Windows 7 box and a Fedora > Core 14 box. When I try to create a VM machine and install Fedora 14 > X86_64 I get the following error: > >>The following problem occurred on line 65 of kickstart fil

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Heinz Diehl wrote: > > In Fedora is there a better email Browser ? >> > > Kmail. I've been using it for over 10 years, and it has never failed me yet. > Having all of KDE and Gnome is one way to increase the chances that you will have

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 01/21/2011 02:08 PM, Jim wrote: >> Fedora 14 / KDE >> >> Today my Thunderbird-3.1.7 crashed and sent all my 1500 emails to the >> Trash Can. Thunderbird was taking so long to compact and other >> things it had to do and locking up my de

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Jim wrote: > Fedora 14 / KDE > > Today my Thunderbird-3.1.7 crashed and sent all my 1500 emails to the > Trash Can. Thunderbird was taking so long to compact and other > things it had to do and locking up my desktop and Web Browser. > > In Fedora is there a better

Re: A very simple query

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > wrote: > >> You will be far better off to download and install the current Fedora >> 14. Then browse http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ for documentation. Use >> that documentation to l

Re: About programing, a general question

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Les wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:00 +, John Haxby wrote: >> >> >> On 17 December 2010 09:41, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >>         That said, I'd choose "C" to getting started. It's a bit of a >>         rough ride >>         in the beginning, but it pays o

Re: About programing, a general question

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:44 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > > +1 > > I learned to program in HP BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN, but 'c' is the way to > learn how to program, no 'seat belts'.  I have TWO copies of K&Rs book as > well as the 'C Puzzle Book'. > I have K&R's book, too, and that's how I le

Re: sage

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 12/15/2010 04:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >>> I understand, but I am trying to install >>> sage-4.6-linux-64bit-fedora_release_13_goddard_-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma >>> >>> which seems to indic

Re: Linux Format mag. article F14 vs ubuntu

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Craig White wrote: > > I find that Ubuntu has an astounding number of documentation pages on > various wikis that are often out of date, do not track the upstream > packagers and sometimes add to the confusion of the users and while it > may work for some, it als

Re: Linux Format mag. article F14 vs ubuntu

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 16:20 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 14:14 -0500, Jesse Palser wrote: >> >> >> &g

Re: Linux Format mag. article F14 vs ubuntu

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 14:14 -0500, Jesse Palser wrote: >> >> I use Ubuntu 10.10 32bit Linux. >> Tried F14 and was very disappointed. > > That's not a useful comment unless you explain what you didn't like. > I'm running both Fedora an

Re: Fedora and window Xp dual boot

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Shelby, James wrote: > When you install Fedora you choose where to install the boot loader.  It was > installed on the fedora drive instead of the windows drive.  It would be > less risky to add Fedora to the Windows boot loader. > Many years ago now, I either mis

Re: FC14 good/bad news

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I installed FC14 in a VM, on a 7.7GB disk image. After that was installed and > tested to some extent, I copied the image to an 8GB SD memory and booted off > it. > Worked with the micro-SD in an adaptor to full size SD, and in a micro-SD t

Re: What is going on with Fedora mirrors today?

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:52:26 -0500 > "Marcus D. Leech" wrote: > >> Most of the mirror sites appear to be missing their Fedora mirrors >> this afternoon--what's going on? >> >> Trying to do an update of an F14 system, and most mirrors are >> re

Re: Online source code browser

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:37 PM, stan wrote: > At this point the source will be unpacked in > ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/ > You can then look at it with the editor of your choice. Ummm... editor of my choice? For some strange reason, I decided to look at the source code for anaconda. I figured that, if

Re: Impossible to connect to the Internet.Fedora14.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Luis Suzuki wrote: > I changed in resolv.conf the nameserver from the IP of my Thompson > router(which works with other distros) to the IPs of my ISP (if I would do > the same for Google Public DNS It would not probably change anything) and I > am still not able to

Re: OT: vexing hw issue

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > I want to make a new Fedora box so I used an existing case and put into it a > new ASUS motherboard and a dual core low power CPU (an AM2+) and 1 gig of RAM > (512x2) and a new 450 watt power supply. The only front panel connection is > for th

Re: Downgrading from F14 to F13

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:54:38 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> >>> So, is there any clean way to downgrade F14 to F13 other than backing >>> up the requi

Re: Downgrading from F14 to F13

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > So, is there any clean way to downgrade F14 to F13 other than backing up > the requisite files and doing a clean install? What's the downside to backing up the requisite files and doing a clean install, if you include /etc in the list of requ

Re: Preupgrading headless remote systems

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Robert Myers writes: >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Steve Berg wrote: >>> So far I've had very good luck with preupgrade for 12 to 14 and 13 to 14 >>> systems.  There's one annoyance t

Re: Preupgrading headless remote systems

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Steve Berg wrote: > So far I've had very good luck with preupgrade for 12 to 14 and 13 to 14 > systems.  There's one annoyance that is causing me some headache.  I have > a couple of systems that are headless and remote that I'd like to do a > preupgrade on but I ca

Random FC13 to FC14 upgrade issues

1. X output through ssh tunnel from upgraded FC14 to FC13 crashed an FC13 X-server (but not a Cygwin X-server). Upgrading the FC13 client to FC14 "fixed" this problem. 2. FC13 to FC14 "upgraded" using an installation disk wound up with a long list of yum errors from which no apparent recovery wa

Re: FC12 forcing hard reboot

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > On 9/11/10, Frank Elsner wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:23:36 -0700 Michael Miles wrote: >>> Tod Thomas wrote: >>> > I yum upgraded to FC12 recently and now my machine is locking up hard a >>> > couple of times a day.  I've upgrade two othe

Re: New install

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM, JB wrote: > > I think Fedora excludes too many users and their machines for no good reason. > Perhaps Fedora could change arch to i586 and have a bigger base of users and > testers as a result ? Starting with Fedora 14 ? > > Sometimes I think Fedora is getting ah

Re: New install

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Rod McCown wrote: > Hello all, >        I just finished with a RedHat class and am trying to run the "Fedora > 13 desktop" on the only thing that I have left in my office that I can get > 512 MB of RAM on. The disk will boot my laptop, but unfortunately it is a > c

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36:12 -0400, >  Robert Myers wrote: >> >> I've never thought that there was anything more complicated to this >> phenomenon than that keyboard and disk i/o are both serviced by

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >  For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on > a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. > And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access - I'm trying to type > inside an ssh session in a termina

Re: GDM and XDMCP

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:29 PM, JB wrote: > Steve Blackwell cfl.rr.com> writes: > >> >> I want to be able to log in to another computer from this computer >> using XDMCP. Assuming that I have configured the other computer >> correctly, a big assumption to be sure, what do I have to do to GDM to

Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:30 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> For computers, the color of the case is probably not an important >> consideration with respect to thermal management.  For spacecraft and >> even for the roof of a h

Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 01:32 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >> A black object will more readily exchange heat by radiation with its >> surroundings than a white object.  If your computer case is hotter >> than other objects it is rec

Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> Are your cases under bright lighting, or in the sunlight?  If not, I'd >>> suspect that casing colour wouldn't be significant.  Colour's more of an >>> issue about absorbing heat, than radiating it. > > g: >> you left out the 'basic of the the

Re: OTish :D Colors of Cases for Fedora was: Re: Open Letter

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM, g wrote: > On 08/12/2010 02:43 AM, Tim wrote: > > >> Are your cases under bright lighting, or in the sunlight?  If not, I'd >> suspect that casing colour wouldn't be significant.  Colour's more of an >> issue about absorbing heat, than radiating it. > > you left

Re: Fedora 13 networking performs extremely well

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Uwe Zimmermann wrote: > > No reply for 5 days, so I'll modify my question: > > can someone point me in the direction of the experts, eg.  mailing list, > name(s), organization, anything that might give me the answer? > > Thanks a lot. > How about Googling fedora+ne

Re: Processor Scalability and Linux

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> This is what I mean with scalability. As for the windows-apps: most of >> them (still) cannot use all the cores and a more-than-2-cores cpu is a >> waste-of-money in most of the time. Lets go back to linux. >> &

Re: Processor Scalability and Linux

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Joshua C. wrote: > > Well, the question is not why I need "that much" power but simply will > a linux app run better on a 6-core than on a 4-core processor? Of > course it depends on the ability of this app to utilize all this > cores/threads. And I know that whate

Re: Processor Scalability and Linux

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Joshua C. wrote: > Hi, > > I’ve been planning on buying a new machine but I’m not that sure what to take. > > We’ve been seeing test and reviews on the internet between amd and > linux. I can say that when it comes to pure (single) core apps then > intel might have

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

t of the discussion has stayed on comp.arch, but I'm hoping to attract a wider audience than just computer architects or people with a special interest in computer architecture. My announcement, as posted to comp.arch follows: On Jul 23, 4:35 pm, Robert Myers wrote: > Thanks for all

Re: gtk library problems?

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alex wrote: > > What is the 'libpk-gtk-module.so' module? > Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module": > libpk-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory > Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": > libcanb

Re: Blue screen of death

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > >> Sounds like your machine started going into suspend / hibernate / >> shutdown. >> >> Did you close the lid? Did you set it to suspend on lid close? > > It's my desktop. I have the display set to turn off after 10 minutes, > but I don't think

Re: fanboy?

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > The only sin that we never forgive in each other is a difference in > opinion. Public opinion is a second conscience. Opinion is the main > thing which does harm or good in the world.

Re: fanboy?

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Robandapril wrote: > Wait, I was called a fanboy?, I hardly think that is called for im > simply voicing my long standing support for Fedora. Its no big deal, im > not upset but all due respect im no fanboy i guess i was trying to > involve myself and it got worded

Re: Fedora for the home user

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > Conclusion: Fedora is good. > It's nice to know that the reported death of fanboyism http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-age-of-the-fanboy-is-drawing-to-a-close/9017 is premature. Fedora probably *isn't* the best choice for the av

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Darr wrote: > On Thursday, 15 July, 2010 @23:21 zulu, Robert Myers scribed: > > You left out the Department of Energy, which is a much bigger > > player than the DoD. > > Well, it sure would be nice if the DoE spent some of our > tax dol

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Les wrote: > > But unfortunately, Robert, networks are inherently low bandwidth. To > achieve full throughput you still need parallelism in the networks > themselves. I think from your description, you are discussing the fluid > models which are generally decons

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:25 PM, JD wrote: > > Dude, I am not a teacher. > I am a hacker of sorts. > My apologies for being misled by your post: "This is the kind of technology that is needed to solve huge mathematical problems. Most smaller universities and colleges do not have massively para

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