Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-27 Thread  
--- On Fri, 2012/3/23, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/23/2012 07:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > "systemctl restart httpd.service" is a joke compared with "service > > httpd restart" - a msart developer would have made .service as > > default-fa

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread  
--- On Sun, 2012/3/18, Steve Berg wrote: > On 03/17/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > > Well, playing_Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company > > claims Open Source software being hosted for download is violating their > > copyrights, and uses this excuse to shut down archives?

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread  
--- On Sun, 2012/3/18, Temlakos wrote: > On 03/17/2012 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am > 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at > 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly let you > imagine taht this

Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread  
On 03/09/2012 09:06 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need it. It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would never need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again. Most of us in the rest of the

Re: tr equivalent to sed command

2012-02-25 Thread  
On 02/25/2012 12:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 21:22 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I'm trying to move a script from invoking lots of sed and awk to bash builtins and I'm stumped on something I'm sure is simple. Is there a tr equivalent to the following? [..

Re: tr equivalent to sed command

2012-02-24 Thread  
On 02/24/2012 10:12 PM, fedora wrote: On 02/24/2012 01:22 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I'm trying to move a script from invoking lots of sed and awk to bash builtins and I'm stumped on something I'm sure is simple. Is there a tr equivalent to the following? sed 's/[^[:alnum:]]//

tr equivalent to sed command

2012-02-24 Thread  
I'm trying to move a script from invoking lots of sed and awk to bash builtins and I'm stumped on something I'm sure is simple. Is there a tr equivalent to the following? sed 's/[^[:alnum:]]//g' I just can't seem to get tr -d to accept a negative matching set, but perhaps that's not possible?

Re: F16 - a good experience

2011-12-30 Thread  
On 12/31/2011 03:25 AM, Roger K. Wells wrote: On 12/30/2011 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:51 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: Luckily the frippery extensions and some other good stuff on extensions.gnome.org allow me to mimick GNOME2 pretty well. +1 Doesn't it bother anybody else here

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread  
On 12/31/2011 01:56 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: 2011/12/30 夜神 岩男: It should, but it doesn't. It only copies the first 9MB which, on checking, copied the previews and ads from Disney (which were almost more annoying than this problem in the first place). The way I usually do this is

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-30 Thread  
On 12/30/2011 03:09 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/29/2011 10:07 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't

DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-29 Thread  
I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't play period but are studio cuts that used to work!). Normally I just put a DVD in the drive, se

Re: Gnome3 RFE discussion !?

2011-12-28 Thread  
On 12/28/2011 01:21 AM, Joe Wulf wrote: I'd also suggest having the ability to manage/initiate much of what you are talking about from the command-line. Additionally, the ability to have a script initiate windows/sessions/programs/applications on a named workspace, would be invaluable. If that'

Re: Silencing Mock

2011-12-27 Thread  
On 12/28/2011 12:46 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: 2011/12/27 夜神 岩男: I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ...

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-27 Thread  
On 12/28/2011 11:56 AM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 21:30 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: I keep thinking along the lines of setting up a new bridge on a separate subnet and doing some sort of NAT routing, but details escape me. I can write those words, but have no idea how to actually ac

Silencing Mock

2011-12-27 Thread  
I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ... during builds. I asked the search gods about this one, and all I find are

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-27 Thread  
On 12/28/2011 06:05 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: On 12/27/2011 01:54 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:37, Kevin Martin wrote: Here's the thingit's difficult to buy a laptop today that doesn't have an nVidia video card and so it behooves nVidia That´s because you surely

Re: Gnome3 RFE discussion !?

2011-12-27 Thread  
On 12/28/2011 01:06 AM, William Case wrote: Is anybody interested in this kind of concept and/or discussion? This sounds a lot like the original KDE4 plasma concept -- but it was rebelled against a bit back then, so a few things stayed traditionalish, though you can elect to ditch everything

Re: Sorting Shotwell files..? & "people bugs".. & resizing icons in home-dir..?

2011-12-26 Thread  
On 12/26/2011 11:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 22:29 +0800, lpeng...@gmail.com wrote: lpeng...@gmail.com 在 2011-12-26,22:23,Patrick O'Callaghan 写道: On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 12:54 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: This sounds slightly nutty (as well as OT). Tim, most of

Re: default browser settings in Thunderbird changed by updates overnight

2011-12-25 Thread  
On 12/26/2011 12:01 AM, Claude Jones wrote: Clicking an html link from within a Thunderbird message now opens Chrome. It has been set to Firefox for a long time. This appears to have changed since yesterday, and last night I did run a huge number of new updates. Funny thing is, the settings in a

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-24 Thread  
On 12/25/2011 01:51 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2011 00:13:34 jdow wrote: On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote: I'd say that uncontrolled nuclear pollution is the single most irresponsible thing that humans could ever do to this planet (bar a global thermonuclear wa

Re: After a while, dolphin, konqueror (and other KDE apps) won't start...

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/24/2011 06:51 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Also, I have what MIGHT be a related issue that I just saw for the first time: At least Dolphin and Konqueror will not load any directories. The window opens and looks normal except for the fact that the area where the directories/files would be di

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 11:47 PM, Alan Cox wrote: advancement. That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they have to either dry out and refurbish flooded facilities, build new facilities, or expand existing facilities-

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 10:02 PM, g wrote: On 12/23/2011 12:15 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: 2011/12/23 夜神 岩男: Its Christmas, so probably lots. -=- faking sender as you did only shows more of your lacking. and Christmas has nothing to do with how many there are. a web search thru 3 sit

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 09:09 PM, g wrote: just how many Rameshwar Kr. Sharma would you say there are in this world? Its Christmas, so probably lots. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 08:25 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/23/2011 11:16 AM, Michael Leung wrote: But now SSD is a kind of luxury for myself. I think when SSD drops to the level you don't think that is a luxury goods, then that is a time to buy. Well, this certainly applies if consider SSDs as repla

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-23 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 04:45 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And, for what it is worth, if you really want to walk into the Japan issue, all I can do is ask if you have given any money to help ... Paul Since you have to be a spoilsport/clown and ask... I didn't give money, because that is meaningless he

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-22 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 04:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 07:29 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Must have been the same guys who built Fukushima on a seismic area prone to tsunamis. I'd like to point out three things. First, all of Japan is tectonically active. Second, not one person outside the facili

Re: Buy an SSD now, or wait?

2011-12-22 Thread  
On 12/23/2011 01:35 PM, jdow wrote: On 2011/12/22 19:29, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:19, Dave Ihnat wrote: That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they have to either dry out and refur

Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire

2011-12-22 Thread  
On 12/22/2011 10:15 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 19:50 +1100, Roger wrote: On 22/12/11 14:22, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:46:26 -0700 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: Ah yes! but

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread  
On 12/22/2011 11:46 AM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. couple of hundred = 80 (including this one) couple of hundred = hyperbole I used to tell my children all

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread  
On 12/21/2011 09:19 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: if they really wanted to know, they could check my ip address. :-) Your IP address is not necessarily constant. And if you want to mask it you can use TOR, but we're getting way

Re: Is Fedora good for Java developers?

2011-12-15 Thread  
On 12/14/2011 07:47 PM, Rich Boyce wrote: On 14/12/11 10:37, Caffeine Lee wrote: Thank you guys, I have the feeling that Fedora is like a tech preview and for Fedora developers rather than a platform for something serious. That's precisely what Fedora is. That doesn't mean its not fairly rob

Re: Historical Question - dracut

2011-12-08 Thread  
On 12/08/2011 11:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Bit of a brain freeze > > What was the command used prior to dracut? mkinitrd [--with=blahblah] or something similar, I believe. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedora

Re: Can RedHat get-into an OS to determine an OS's intentional faults via the Net..?

2011-12-08 Thread  
On 12/08/2011 12:31 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > Re: Can RedHat get-into an OS to determine an OS's intentional faults > via the Net..? > Hide this message > > From: > "Reindl Harald" [Add] > > "what are you permanently whining about security while you > are missing any basics? there is no secur

Re: Is android linux done right?

2011-11-19 Thread  
On 11/19/2011 09:04 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2011 11:44 PM, "Skunk Worx" > wrote: > > > > Android may be the fastest growing linux distribution in history. > > > > Now that Google has open sourced Ice Cream Sandwich, will some linux > > distribution

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread  
>> Red Hat as a company is poised to be a billion dollar company this year >> (FY12). The FY 2006 earnings were $278.3 million.[1] That's a 4X >> increase in just 6 years. That's *amazing* growth. > > Yes, it is. But it is also a reflection of economic decline, financial crash, > IT crash that mak

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-24 Thread  
On 09/25/2011 04:17 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/24/2011 11:43 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >> Things are as they should be because things are as they are. > > This is going way, way off topic, but that could be used as a > justification for never changing anything. Or for changing every

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-24 Thread  
On 09/24/2011 07:36 AM, charles zeitler wrote: > Do what thou wilt > shall be the whole of the Law. > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them >> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora devel

Re: help needed on patitionning

2011-08-06 Thread  
On 08/07/2011 04:12 AM, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot install fedora 15 in my new laptop. I think we can fix that. > At the time of partitionning during the installation process it blocks giving > me a message that it cannot allocate enough free space. That is because it needs "free" disk

Re: nsswitch.conf changes

2011-08-04 Thread  
On 08/04/2011 07:45 PM, Dan Track wrote: > Hi, > > I changed all my nsswitch.conf entries to point to files, previously > it was set to "files nis". However when I ssh in it still takes a long > time to authenticate. Is there a service I need to restart e.g. pam > etc? I'll reboot as a last re

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-02 Thread  
On 08/03/2011 04:57 AM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 05:51pm on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 (UK time), Tom H scrawled: > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Steve Searle wrote: >>> >>> I know. If you read my website it says that the firewall can cause a >>> file to be read-only. >> >> Which firewall s

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-02 Thread  
On 08/03/2011 02:05 AM, Tom H wrote: > NFSv4 works without Kerberos or LDAP/NIS/NIS+. Of course it does, but can the permissions be exported per user by UID/GID mask or are the exports still blanket ro/rw (which is the real point of this thread)? Further, can you escape from the nfs_mount_t co

Re: Rdesktop - Machine hanging problem

2011-08-02 Thread  
On 08/02/2011 01:58 PM, Rajender.M wrote: > >> On 08/01/2011 06:44 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >> >>> On 08/01/2011 08:02 PM, Rajender.M wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I installed Fedora core15 in our host machine which contains the

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-02 Thread  
On 08/02/2011 01:09 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > On 08/01/2011 07:41 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >> I have really been meaning to collect my notes about small/medium office >> Kerberos/LDAP/NFSv4 setup and write a small series on how to do this >> without giving up, settling fo

Re: Progress?

2011-08-01 Thread  
On 08/02/2011 04:44 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > On 8/1/2011 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/01/2011 09:52 AM, Stuart McGraw wrote: >>> If complaints were less suppressed here, maybe the situation >>> could even be turned into a positive...Fedora could perhaps >>> raise some funds by selling "I su

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-01 Thread  
On 08/01/2011 10:25 PM, Jatin K wrote: > On Monday 01 August 2011 06:41 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >> On 08/01/2011 09:59 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: >>> On 08/01/2011 08:03 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> NFSv4 has become both more awesome and more complex. &

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-01 Thread  
On 08/01/2011 09:59 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: > On 08/01/2011 08:03 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > ... > >> NFSv4 has become both more awesome and more complex. >> Before getting into specific issues that can cause this... >> > > If you intend to use POSIX ACLs with NFSv4 forg

Re: Rdesktop - Machine hanging problem

2011-08-01 Thread  
On 08/01/2011 08:02 PM, Rajender.M wrote: > Hello All, > > I installed Fedora core15 in our host machine which contains the rdesktop > version1.6.0 > When i try to connect to the remote machine using rdesktop the machine hangs > and we need to do a hard reboot every time. We tried to install the

Re: NFS shared directory permission (rhel6)

2011-08-01 Thread  
On 08/01/2011 05:23 PM, Jatin K wrote: > Dear all > > what should be the permission of NFS shared directory on RHEL6 ??? > > I've shared a directory on rhel 6 ...following are the configuration done > > created a directory /office > > --/etc/exports > /office *.officebox.local(rw,sync) > > > >

Re: [389-users] Change name of server, admin-server no longer works

2011-07-29 Thread  
On 07/29/2011 04:34 PM, Techie wrote: > Hello, > > We were required to change the hostname of our LDAP server running > 389-DS. Since that time the LDAP server runs fine but the admin server > does not authenticate login any longer, meaning i cannot log into the > admin server. What do I need to do

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8? => choosing the fedora desktop

2011-07-14 Thread
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 21:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:53:57 +0900 > 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > > but the underlying base is so > > solid and logical that people who are really familiar with it are just > > enduring the arguments for now while

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8? => choosing the fedora desktop

2011-07-14 Thread
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 20:16 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > Ok then - so then the debate here should not be about gnome 3 missing > features - we all agree - that should be an upstream discussion. > > The discussion should turn to what the default desktop should be - in > the past it was gnome

Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-13 Thread
Without intending a flamewar (after all, we have to move forward, wherever that means), the linked article[1] is not interesting or unique in its blatant criticism of the Windows 8 interface, but it is interesting that the author sees the Windows 8 interface as a chance for Linux to get the upper h

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:28 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/05/2011 11:31 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > DNS query history would be the single most potent addition to Google's > > profiling tags (as in naked profiling, on subjects who are not logged in > > to a Google service or acc

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread
> >> yeah... I just can't be bothered to set up BIND. That's what things like > >> Google Public DNS is for. :D > > > > No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into > > every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by > > your history record in Google

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 06:34 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue July 5 2011, Tim wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:52 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > > > might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 > > > are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs some sort of filtering >

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-05 Thread
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 10:48 +0200, Daniele Guerrieri wrote: > very useful thread, i've just sync all my data between my various "linuxes" > :-) > let's see how arch will work with uid/gid 500/500 :) > > Thanks, > Daniele Its a good idea to use UID sets >= 1000. Everything based on Debian conside

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread
> I finish my mail : i just try 3 times to send the mail because > thunderbid failed to send it due to configuration problem on the server > smtp.googlemail.com I open a CLI and run ping smtp.googlemail.com the > server answer fine and i achieve to send my email. > ?? > Eric Perhaps a bogus DNS

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 21:42 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 7/3/2011 9:33 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 20:38 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > [...] > > > > Creating that first user throught the firstboot dialogue isn't required, > >

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 20:38 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 7/3/2011 6:43 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > Fedora doesn't care if you have a UID much > > higher than 500, but Debian does care if your UID is lower than 1000 (in > > fact, th

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread
> This is well put :-) I believe you meant to say that you always choose > UIDs/GIDs >= 1000. Indeed I did... that sort of typo is the kind that leaves a sleepy coder scratching his head sometimes ヽ(o`皿′o)ノ I'm glad you got the idea anyway. I've found this to be a simple solution for tiny envir

Re: Gnome Q: Application window save-data for restore when reopened?

2011-07-03 Thread
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 12:04 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I am sorry if this question was asked before, > but I was wondering why is it, that most app- > lication's main window do not restore it's > last save-data the next time it is opened? > What I am talking about is window position > and si

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 19:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 14:46 -0700, JD wrote: > > I think you have exposed a very interesting problem. > > It would be interesting if the problem hadn't been known about for the > last 20 or 30 years, i.e. since Unix systems started be

Re: OT - Trusted Boot project in F16

2011-06-23 Thread
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 22:43 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 05:54 -0700, Joe Wulf wrote: > > Awesome post, JB. Way cool. > > > > Um another question come to mind, like, will such an OS still boot/work on > > Intel > > (and AMD?) CPUs, say ol

Re: OT - Trusted Boot project in F16

2011-06-23 Thread
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 05:54 -0700, Joe Wulf wrote: > Awesome post, JB. Way cool. > > Um another question come to mind, like, will such an OS still boot/work on > Intel > (and AMD?) CPUs, say older ones, that don't have the TPM? > > R, > -Joe Wulf TL;DR: Don't panic. Some enlightening posts b

Re: Not able to download rpmfusion

2011-06-22 Thread
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 21:49 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > >I don't think ter is anything wrong with changing the URL but I > >installed rpmfusion repos by googling for the rpmfusion web site and > >follow the instructions. > > When the op asked, download1 was down. So f

Re: Paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3

2011-06-22 Thread
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 08:09 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:56:35AM +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > > Corporate and home users are already being expected (by that company in > > > Redmond) to upgrade to higher end hardware for their latest offerin

Re: Paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3

2011-06-21 Thread
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 08:28 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 02:23:51AM +0930, Tim wrote: > > Is a corporation going to want to spend $100 per graphics card per PC, > > so that the default Gnome 3 actually works, or are they going to > > continue to only want to put in the $

Re: systemd discussion

2011-06-15 Thread
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 20:15 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/15/2011 04:19 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > This sort of > > developer often can't tell you who Fred Brooks, Eric Raymond, Donald > > Knuth, Ken Thompson, or anyone similar are > > And let's not forget the san

Re: systemd discussion

2011-06-15 Thread
Sorry, JB, I usually avoid posting (hence the trash email address), but not today because this hit home. On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:06 +, JB wrote: > Clyde E. Kunkel cox.net> writes: > > > ... > > All this said, I am beginning to believe Fedora is more and more an > > experiment in social engi

Re: drupal 7 in F14?

2011-06-03 Thread  
--- On Sat, 2011/6/4, Dave Stevens wrote: > Hi, > > I've been learning about Drupal 7 on a CentOS install and it is more  > convenient to use it on my F14 box for learning purposes. The install  > was just a yum command, but I'm accustomed to finding and running the  > install.php file to con

Re: LibreOffice on Fedora

2011-01-29 Thread  
> On 01/27/2011 01:52 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > >> I am well aware of all that but nothing you are > saying contradicts what > >> I said. Openoffice is not under the GPL license. > > > > OpenOffice.org is LGPL. > > > > It was an e

Re: Triple head?

2011-01-17 Thread  
--- Thomas Cameron wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Has anyone gotten three heads set up with Fedora? I > figure it will > require the proprietary driver, and while that is > not optimal, I'm > willing to do it. I really want to have three > monitors set up. > > If

Re: ipv6 question

2011-01-06 Thread  
--- Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 17:40 -0500, Genes MailLists > wrote: > >How does one manage your internal ip6 network > so that an ISP change > > (which under NAT/ipv4 is irrelevant) - is > straightforward/clean to > > manage ? > > The simple answer is *DNS*. > > Only the [Kerber

Re: Yum vs. PackageKit

2010-12-31 Thread  
--- Roger wrote: > On 31/12/10 04:57, Beartooth wrote: > > On all machines running F14 with a usable GUI, > PackageKit's gpk- > > update-viewer (which I run daily, sometimes more) > often tells me it sees > > no updates, or only very few. I've been making it > a practice, every time > > it c

Re: Let's talk about yum and p2p in Fedora

2010-12-27 Thread  
--- 夜神 岩男 wrote: > --- S Mathias wrote: > > > Are there any active project about it? > > > > like: > > http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ > > for Debian. > > > > Why doesn't it have viability? Why does it have? > > > > What a

Re: Let's talk about yum and p2p in Fedora

2010-12-27 Thread  
--- S Mathias wrote: > Are there any active project about it? > > like: > http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ > for Debian. > > Why doesn't it have viability? Why does it have? > > What are the security issues regarding it? So long as it is easily configurable for the user/admin (many of my Gno

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread  
--- Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/25/2010 11:33 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > > 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has > been surpassed in looks > > by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know > all, but Windoze and > > Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. > > You are jo

Re: quirk in F14 evolution

2010-12-25 Thread  
--- Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 08:55 -0600, Aaron Konstam > wrote: > > > And on that note, is trash behaving that way for > you as > > > well? > > No. On my machines Trash has no number next to its > name. > > Same here. I misspoke in my earlier reply (I just > meant to

Re: About programing, a general question

2010-12-23 Thread  
--- Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Hugh Caley > wrote: > > May I suggest that people do not use this forum as > a type of chat client? > > Replies of "Yes." and "Great." are not useful to a > public discussion and > > make for really huge archive lists and digests. >

Re: quirk in F14 evolution

2010-12-22 Thread  
--- Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:28 -0600, Aaron Konstam > wrote: > However, under F14 the junk > > folder displays a number that represents the > number of messages in the > > junk folder when the program is started and the > number does not change > > when messages are