Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Dave Close
Tim wrote: >You'd think (you'd wish) they'd get snared by the original release not >being "fit for purpose" being against several laws that obligated them >to providing something that was, and didn't let them weasel out after >some arbitrary time limit. > >We have such laws about real products. Y

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 06:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > The company we bought from had the policy that you had to have paid > support to download firmware updates after the warranty expired. You'd think (you'd wish) they'd get snared by the original release not being "fit for purpose" being again

Re: dnf-system-upgrade to Fedora 41 is Ok

2024-11-01 Thread jim . cromie
OK++ Ive upgraded 1/2 machines, using graphical interface from the "notify" prompt. all went smoothly. Speed of update seems faster, maybe its the ~3 progress bars updating so smoothly. new here is the 2nd line below - perhaps the replacing line is obvious, and suppressible ? xwaylandvideobri

Re: Well, I am back on 39

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 18:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/25/24 05:35, George N. White III wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:11 AM ToddAndMargo via users https://github.com/Owl-Maintain/brlaser says the "Brother HL-L2300D series" is supported.  Fedora 40

Re: Well, I am back on 39

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/25/24 05:35, George N. White III wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:11 AM ToddAndMargo via users https://github.com/Owl-Maintain/brlaser says the "Brother HL-L2300D series" is supported.  Fedora 40 has `printer-driver-brlaser`.  Did you try that?

Re: how to fsck at boot?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 09:27, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:24:43 +1100 fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: On 25/10/24 9:18 pm, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What replaced "touch /forcefsck"? Last time I did this I got a message (during boot? I forget) saying to use: sudo t

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 06:02, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: At this point you should try to run a "dnf distro-sync" in a protected way. Example with systemd-run: sudo systemd-run -u distro-sync --no-block --service-type=oneshot \ dnf -y distro-sync Wait for this transient distro-sync unit to

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 06:02, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Look in your ~/.xsession-errors or test with a brand new test user. Neither of my own profile or the two new profiles had an xsession-errors file -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraprojec

How do I tell dnf5 I want to replace an fc39 package of the same revision?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 41 dnf5-5.2.6.2-1.fc41.x86_64 How do I tell dnf5 I want to replace an fc39 package of the same revision? Many thanks, -T # dnf provides unbound-libs --releasever=41 Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. unbound-libs-1.21.1-3.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries used by t

Re: rsync ---exclude

2024-11-01 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 23:44:55 + "Joe Wulf via users" wrote: > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5774/how-to-exclude-subdirectory-from-rsync > Thanks, I found the problem. rsync --rsync-path="sudo rsync" I had to use this because a simple "sudo rsync" didn't work. I don't know why, b

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-11-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-01 16:16, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 14:44 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/31/24 12:06 PM, Ryan Bach via users wrote: Not using any app that uses xwayland like steam, etc. You might be surprised by which apps are still using X. But it's a required piece for gn

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 12:39, Robert McBroom via users wrote: lightdm works on rawhide f42 From my research, it work in the vast majority of cases. But if you are one of the "unlucky" ones, yo will learn a few new swear words. (Not an admission that I cuss.) -- _

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Fedora 41 - XFCE - Display settings have become misconfigured and can't be restored

2024-11-01 Thread Terry Polzin
Screen lock and power management aren't working either On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 8:11 PM Max Pyziur wrote: > > > On 11/01/2024 2:27 PM EDT Max Pyziur wrote: > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > While trying a two-screen setup with my Dell XPS 13 (9380), I've lost my > display settings and I can't seem

[SOLVED] Re: Fedora 41 - XFCE - Display settings have become misconfigured and can't be restored

2024-11-01 Thread Max Pyziur
> On 11/01/2024 2:27 PM EDT Max Pyziur wrote: > > > Greetings, > > While trying a two-screen setup with my Dell XPS 13 (9380), I've lost my > display settings and I can't seem to be able to restore them. > > The laptop's display specs are 1920 x 1080. But even though I get an > approxima

Re: rsync ---exclude

2024-11-01 Thread Joe Wulf via users
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5774/how-to-exclude-subdirectory-from-rsync On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 07:40:49 PM EDT, Bob Marčan via users wrote: I know it's not exactly Fedora related. I feel stupid already. I am trying to exclude the '.ssh' directory from the rsync. I'

rsync ---exclude

2024-11-01 Thread Bob Marčan via users
I know it's not exactly Fedora related. I feel stupid already. I am trying to exclude the '.ssh' directory from the rsync. I've already tried all the permutations I could find on the web without success. Now I have given up and i am forced to ask for help. Thanks in advance, Bob --

Tracer is broken - was: Is the dnf tracer plugin working?

2024-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 11:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 09:25 +, Barry wrote: > > > > > On 31 Oct 2024, at 12:07, Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > > > AFAIK the tracer plugin is installed: > > > > > > python3-dnf-plugin-tracer-4.1.2-3.fc41.noarch > >

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 14:44 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/31/24 12:06 PM, Ryan Bach via users wrote: > > Not using any app that uses xwayland like steam, etc. > > You might be surprised by which apps are still using X. > But it's a required piece for gnome-shell anyway, so you can't remove it.

Re: Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-11-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 2/11/24 01:22, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:47 PM Stephen Morris wrote: Running trigger-install scriptlet: glibc-common-0:2.40-3.fc41.x86_64warning: posix.fork(): .fork(), .exec(), .wait() and .redirect2null() are deprecated, use rpm.spawn() or rpm.execute() instead Thi

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 10/31/24 7:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines usin

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/1/24 9:02 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: lightdm nor slick-greeter (since January, for F39 and F40). I suspect a change in your account profiles (shell for example). Look in your ~/.xsession-errors or test with a brand new test user. Funny. I liked the version of Thunderbird on

Fedora 41 - XFCE - Display settings have become misconfigured and can't be restored

2024-11-01 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, While trying a two-screen setup with my Dell XPS 13 (9380), I've lost my display settings and I can't seem to be able to restore them. The laptop's display specs are 1920 x 1080. But even though I get an approximation, when I reboot, the configuration isn't saved, and the desktop

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 09:25:33PM +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 21:39 -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote: > > So when do you plan to actually STOP POSTING? > > WHEN I DAMN WELL FEEL LIKE IT! > > When do you plan to take your head out of your ass? > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux

Re: how to fsck at boot?

2024-11-01 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:24:43 +1100 fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: > On 25/10/24 9:18 pm, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> What replaced "touch /forcefsck"? > Last time I did this I got a message (during boot? I forget) saying to use: > sudo tune2fs -E force_fsck /dev/... > and it worked. Tha

Re: Fedora 41 - Postgresql Problem

2024-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 06:25:35PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > > > On 10/30/2024 12:40 PM EDT Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 11:52:25AM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I have three machines running Fedora, one just completed the update. > > > Gen

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
When a top post quotes boilerplate, one case be certain that it's a case of don't care or TH;DDI. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 04:57:23 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/1/24 02:16, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >> Is it the machine where you did a system-upgrade to F40 ? (with >> duplicates systemd RPMs ... at least). > This is that same system. I cloned it back to > fc39. After a dnf

Re: Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 4:10 AM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 1/11/24 10:32, Colin J Thomson wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thursday 31 October 2024 22:46:29 Greenwich Mean Time Stephen Morris wrote: > > HI, > Following Patrick's thread about dnf tracer plugin I installed that > plugin again and got the

Re: Strange DNF5 Functionality

2024-11-01 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 31, 2024, at 18:50, Stephen Morris wrote: > >  Hi, >With the upgrade to DNF5, when I issue sudo dnf upgrade, for all package > upgrades it lists the package that is being replaced and lists the repository > as being , why is it specifying anything for the repository of the > insta

Re: Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:47 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > >> Running trigger-install scriptlet: > >> glibc-common-0:2.40-3.fc41.x86_64warning: posix.fork(): .fork(), .exec(), > >> .wait() and .redirect2null() are deprecated, use rpm.spawn() or > >> rpm.execute() instead This is being worked on

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Sbob
The company I am working with moved to Alma Linux, its working out really well -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedorapro

Re: dnf-system-upgrade to Fedora 41 is Ok

2024-11-01 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 10/30/24 4:39 PM, t_...@tiscali.it wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 13:17:56 -0700 Dave Close wrote: Is it still true that stock F41 does not include the ability to run X11? I'm stuck until Wayland has a way to invoke Firefox from a cron job. I've made the upgrade from Fedora 39 to 41 (Xfce). E

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 02:16, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Is it the machine where you did a system-upgrade to F40 ? (with duplicates systemd RPMs ... at least). Tihs is that same system. I cloned it back to fc39. After a dnf update, lightdm stopped working. Funny. I liked the version of Thunderbi

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:40 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > > with that sort of licenses are gettin

Re: Is the dnf tracer plugin working?

2024-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 09:25 +, Barry wrote: > > > On 31 Oct 2024, at 12:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > AFAIK the tracer plugin is installed: > > > > python3-dnf-plugin-tracer-4.1.2-3.fc41.noarch > > The python plugins don’t work in the C++ dnf5. > > It's a pity there was no warn

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-11-01 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 21:39 -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote: > So when do you plan to actually STOP POSTING? WHEN I DAMN WELL FEEL LIKE IT! When do you plan to take your head out of your ass? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-11-01 Thread Tim via users
Max Pyziur wrote: > > > Indeed, there was a ssh_config.rpmnew file that was present. Tim: > > One of the things I like about doing command line system updates (and > > I don't know if the *current* GUI based systems do this), was I could > > see comments being logged in its progress about old/new

Re: systemd-sysusers problem

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/29/24 14:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/24 14:01, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 Which should I have? systemd-standalone-sysusers  or systemd? Just checked my Xfce Live USB.  It is systemd Cancel the request. It is an issue with lightdm. I replace it

Re: Is the dnf tracer plugin working?

2024-11-01 Thread Barry
> On 31 Oct 2024, at 12:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > AFAIK the tracer plugin is installed: > > python3-dnf-plugin-tracer-4.1.2-3.fc41.noarch The python plugins don’t work in the C++ dnf5. The dnf5 docs say there are some plugins https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnf5_plugins/index

Podman 5.3 Test Day 2024-11-01 through 2024-11-08

2024-11-01 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Folks! We will be testing Fedora 41 with the new update in Podman 5.3. To ensure a smooth transition, the Podman team and the Quality team of Fedora have decided to host a test day[1]. The idea is for users to test Podman 5.3 on a Fedora 41 machine and submit results in the Test Day App[2]. If

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 01:26:09 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/1/24 01:15, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >> Elaborate please: we are using lightdm on hundreds of machines >> without issues, except on a few of them using nvidia-340xx ... > I am not using an nvidia graphics card. > I

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 01:14, Stephen Morris wrote: No problems, glad it's working now. regards, Steve I must have spent 16 hours trying to fix this. About killed me. I am tickled with lxdm. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Strange DNF5 Functionality

2024-11-01 Thread Barry
> On 31 Oct 2024, at 22:50, Stephen Morris wrote: > >  Hi, > With the upgrade to DNF5, when I issue sudo dnf upgrade, for all package > upgrades it lists the package that is being replaced and lists the repository > as being , why is it specifying anything for the repository of the > in

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/11/24 19:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/1/24 00:58, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/11/24 14:20, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # systemctl status display-manager.service Unit display-manager.service could not be found. What display-manager are you actually using, is it sddm, gdm or so

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 01:04:01 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Turns out I have no issues with x running. The problem > is lightdm; > I am stuck in the "endless loop" problem that is plaguing > lightdm users. Elaborate please: we are using lightdm on undreds of machines without issues,

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 01:15, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 01:04:01 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Turns out I have no issues with x running. The problem is lightdm; I am stuck in the "endless loop" problem that is plaguing lightdm users. Elaborate please: we are usi

Re: Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-11-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/11/24 10:32, Colin J Thomson wrote: Hi, On Thursday 31 October 2024 22:46:29 Greenwich Mean Time Stephen Morris wrote: HI, Following Patrick's thread about dnf tracer plugin I installed that plugin again and got the following strange message that I have never seen before: Running t

Re: systemd-sysusers start fails

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/29/24 17:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 systemd-254.19-1.fc39.x86_64 (provides systemd-sysusers) I can not get lightdm to start Xfc or MATE.  After entering my password into the greeter, I get a black screen with a mouse pointer, then back to the greeter. When I star

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/1/24 00:58, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/11/24 14:20, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # systemctl status display-manager.service Unit display-manager.service could not be found. What display-manager are you actually using, is it sddm, gdm or something different. Lets say you are using gdm wit

Re: How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-11-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/11/24 14:20, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # systemctl status display-manager.service Unit display-manager.service could not be found. What display-manager are you actually using, is it sddm, gdm or something different. Lets say you are using gdm with Gnome, what does systemctl display when