canon network scanner

2013-08-25 Thread Hiisi
Hi there! We have the following configuration in our lab: multifunctional (printer+scanner) device canon mf4410 is connected to the usb port of a router. Router is netgear WNR3500L and is configured to share this printer to every computer in the lab. What steps should I take to make my fedora17 lap

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 09:40 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: WE ARE THE NSA OF BORG. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR DISKS. WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOUR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE DISTINCTIVENESS. YOUR PROCESSORS WILL BE ADAPTED TO SERVE OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 09:28 PM, g wrote: On 08/25/2013 04:58 PM, Steven Stern wrote: <> Jeez... he was just joking about the NSA stuff Settle down, folks. what? you do not like a little satire in with 'dry wit' thrown in? nsa = notoriety seeking admins. note send admins. new sex

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 09:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I respect Joe Zeff as a reputable member of this list, those instructions on fedoraforum are a total piece of crap. I don't know who wrote those instructions, but overengineering a solution for a common problem is a always a Recipe For Disaster

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Roger
Now nobody knows what you did, in how many ways were those instructions broken, and how much time and effort will it take to fix that mess... :-( I do, now! Went back thru history and found that I did not correctly complete a line from that fedoraforum instruction set: dracut /boot/initra

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:34:56 +1000 Roger wrote: > Installing nvidia drivers is as simple as I have told you --- enable > rpmfusion, yum install kmod-nvidia, reboot the machine. > rpmfusion was enabled and working > yum install kmod-nvidia did it's thing successfully > > --- Except it did not wo

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 23:28:37 -0500 g wrote: > nsa = notoriety seeking admins. >note send admins. >new sex acquired. NSA = No Such Agency. But my pet is this one: WE ARE THE NSA OF BORG. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR DISKS. WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOUR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Roger
Installing nvidia drivers is as simple as I have told you --- enable rpmfusion, yum install kmod-nvidia, reboot the machine. rpmfusion was enabled and working yum install kmod-nvidia did it's thing successfully --- Except it did not work, wouldn't go past that error message previously mentione

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 04:58 PM, Steven Stern wrote: <> Jeez... he was just joking about the NSA stuff Settle down, folks. what? you do not like a little satire in with 'dry wit' thrown in? nsa = notoriety seeking admins. note send admins. new sex acquired. wait a minute, that was s

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:22:57 +1000 Roger wrote: > I followed the instructions in : > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752 > but must have missed something because Fedora 19 is now trash. > Will not even start to boot so I can't get to a terminal. While I respect Joe Zeff as a re

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 10:52 PM, Martin S wrote: <> What? All code should be thoroughly commented so just look for // NSA back door ha, ha, ha. that is a good one. that laugh felt good. ((GBWG)) thank you. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . --

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Martin S
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 03:41:24 PM g wrote: > On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > <> > > > I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about > > some "mysterious" kernel module and I just pointed him to module's > > source code. I'm not posting any proofs

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 04:19:35 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Give it 10-15 minutes, the initrd is a large file. ;-) You will need > to wait for it only on this first boot --- once it is updated, > subsequent boots should be as fast as they used to be. By the way... I always found it quite anno

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 08:19 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: This is good advice if you are fanatically waiting for the new kernel to appear and install it within the first 5 minutes after hitting the repositories... In that case it is unlikely that the corresponding kmod-nvidia will be available, and akmod ca

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Roger
On 26/08/13 10:09, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/25/2013 04:48 PM, Roger wrote: Took the plunge and following the above installed kmod-nvidia now Fedora boot hangs at Started Accounts Service I also note that it fails to start ISDN service? Pretty much dead and can't access anything. Help is greatly ap

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:09:39 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/25/2013 04:48 PM, Roger wrote: > > Took the plunge and following the above installed kmod-nvidia now > > Fedora boot hangs at Started Accounts Service > > I also note that it fails to start ISDN service? > > Pretty much dead and can't acc

Re: What does "require" actually mean?

2013-08-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 01:48:58AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 16:35:22 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > package. Run "rpm -e --test libvdpau" to display those dependencies. > > > The package may be renamed (or the contents moved to a different > > > package) without break

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 04:48 PM, Roger wrote: Took the plunge and following the above installed kmod-nvidia now Fedora boot hangs at Started Accounts Service I also note that it fails to start ISDN service? Pretty much dead and can't access anything. Help is greatly appreciated thanks. Writing this from

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Roger
On 25/08/13 21:32, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:57:03 +1000 Roger wrote: I'm using Fedora 19 with the standard Nouveau video driver. I've noticed that when re positioning gui windows with mouse, movement is increasingly glunky, jerking in 5-10mm steps in any direction. When dra

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:43 +0100 Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 13:20:05 Tom Horsley wrote: > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > > mei module is actually good for. > > http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/ > > Some examples of Intel AMT us

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread David
On 8/25/2013 4:41 PM, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 02:27 PM, David wrote: > <> > >> Sadly I have seen a lot of that attitude around lately. not just here >> but many 'places'. > > it stresses me to hear that. > > i would say 'i hate to hear that'. but 'hate' is a word i am trying to > remove >

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 25.08.2013 21:42, g wrote: >> >> >> On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> <> >> >>> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in >>> drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back >>> doo

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:43 +0100 Martin Airs wrote: > Some examples of Intel AMT usage are: Yea, every example of Intel Management Engine docs I've found (which contained coherent sentences) all talk about things that the IT department can do to administer systems at a low level behind the operati

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 01:43:28PM -0700, Dave Johansen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Les Howell wrote: > > My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have > > found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the > > software menu (on x86_64 F19)

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Martin Airs
On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 13:20:05 Tom Horsley wrote: > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. > I found a page with a lot of nonsensical ramblings on too, but then i found a section in it. http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/misc-devices

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM, g wrote: > business model? Yes, who pays for the servers/bandwidth and how are they going to finance expansion if everyone starts using it. Google finances itself with AdSense revenue. ixquick, how? Just a genuine question. > suspicious of what? Im not *persona

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> i do not need to be a physic telepathic i only need to follow the thread from the fist posting to each, their own opinion of themselves. :=) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users ma

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> it was *sarcasm* because the thread-starter did spread FUD is this really so hard to understand? really? so now you are a physic telepathic too? tell me what i am thinking. (bwg) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates.

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-25 Thread Dave Johansen
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Les Howell wrote: > My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have > found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the > software menu (on x86_64 F19) and see lots of stuff related to MATE. > What is the key to getting MA

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: <> I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about some "mysterious" kernel module and I just pointed him to module's source code. I'm not posting any proofs because I'm not claiming anything. ok. if there was someth

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 02:27 PM, David wrote: <> Sadly I have seen a lot of that attitude around lately. not just here but many 'places'. it stresses me to hear that. i would say 'i hate to hear that'. but 'hate' is a word i am trying to remove from my vocabulary. there is too much of it going aroun

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.08.2013 21:42, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > <> > >> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in >> drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back >> door". > > like just where? > > your comment is a bit ambigu

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread David
On 8/25/2013 1:23 PM, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 11:34 AM, David wrote: > <> > >> There is a search engine for that. > > lol. glad you have a sense of humor also. > > some walk around like they have a cob up their butt. > > at least i hope is a cob. ;=) > > > have a good one. > > Sa

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: <> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back door". like just where? your comment is a bit ambiguous. how about posting some proof. if you are infer

Re: Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 12:27 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: Either upgrade release by release or do fresh install from f17 to f18. Although it might be possible do upgrade from f17 to f19, I don't recommend it because too much have changed between f17 and f19. I've done this twice. My laptop went perf

Re: Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.08.2013 18:50, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > Good morning > > > > I have a f17 x64 system that I want to upgrade to the latest Fedora. I > found information indicating that I should use fedup. I have read > further and gotten conflicting reports and suggestions. The project > documentation

Re: -- SPAM --Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 12:54 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 04:06:45AM -0500, g wrote: .snip first, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html their feelings about "PRISM" and surveillance; ht

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.08.2013 20:00, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 > Steven Stern wrote: > >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+module&l=1 >> >> >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ > > And the results of such searches are all those words > which are concatenated together and

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-25 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Les Howell : My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the software menu (on x86_64 F19) and see lots of stuff related to MATE. What is the key to getting MATE installed and run on a user? Will

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 Steven Stern wrote: > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+module&l=1 > > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ And the results of such searches are all those words which are concatenated together and say nothing :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

MATE desktop

2013-08-25 Thread Les Howell
My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the software menu (on x86_64 F19) and see lots of stuff related to MATE. What is the key to getting MATE installed and run on a user? Will the GNOME3 version of E

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Robert Holtzm
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 09:35:02AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: ..snip.. > > Yeah, but I dont see what is their business model. That makes me suspicious. Contrary to popular opinion, not every human endeavor has to make money. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight li

Re: -- SPAM --Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Robert Holtzm
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 04:06:45AM -0500, g wrote: .snip > > > first, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. >https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html > > their feelings about "PRISM" and surveillance; >https://ixquick.com/eng/prism-program-rev

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/25/2013 12:20 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > The mei kernel module has been killing folks for a long time > now, and they can't seem to fix it: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917081 > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. > > Al

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 11:34 AM, David wrote: <> There is a search engine for that. lol. glad you have a sense of humor also. some walk around like they have a cob up their butt. at least i hope is a cob. ;=) have a good one. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3

Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
The mei kernel module has been killing folks for a long time now, and they can't seem to fix it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917081 Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the mei module is actually good for. All the doc files and web pages are filled to the brim with wor

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread David
On 8/25/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 07:35 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:06 AM, g wrote: >>> irst, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. >>> https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html >>> >>> their feelings about "PRISM"

Re: Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/25/2013 06:50 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: Good morning I have a f17 x64 system that I want to upgrade to the latest Fedora. I found information indicating that I should use fedup. I have read further and gotten conflicting reports and suggestions. The project documentation says to use th

Re: Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-25 Thread Richard Shaw
I actually just upgraded my F17 to F18 mythtv box and it worked fine. One thing to note, I keep a couple of local repositories shared via NFS. For some reason, fedup assumes these packages will be available during the upgrade and does not copy them to the local disk. To make matters worse, when it

Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-25 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Good morning I have a f17 x64 system that I want to upgrade to the latest Fedora. I found information indicating that I should use fedup. I have read further and gotten conflicting reports and suggestions. The project documentation says to use this method but user reports say it doesn't work. C

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 10:40 AM, Jim wrote: <> Come on guys, lets get back to putting a Boot track on a SD card. i guess you are busy watching nudie sites. hold of for a minute or two and try these links; https://ixquick.com/do/search?q=%22install+Boot+sector+to+SD+card+%22&lui=english a yucko sit

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Jim
On 08/25/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: On 08/25/2013 07:35 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:06 AM, g wrote: irst, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html their feelings about "PRISM" and surveillance;

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 07:35 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:06 AM, g wrote: irst, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html their feelings about "PRISM" and surveillance; https://ixquick.com/eng/prism-p

Re: Fedora 19: FirewallD and network bridge

2013-08-25 Thread Anthony Messina
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 01:11:20 PM Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > Take a look at > > > > > > > > http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Fedora.2FRHEL_Bridging > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512206 > > > > > > > > I believe the default now is to set the following to disable

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:06 AM, g wrote: > irst, let me introduce you to ixquick and their _advanced_ search page. >https://ixquick.com/eng/advanced-search.html > > their feelings about "PRISM" and surveillance; >https://ixquick.com/eng/prism-program-revealed.html > > privacy; >https:

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread Jim
On 08/25/2013 05:06 AM, g wrote: hello jim, "at the end of this message, your SD card will self district." (bwg) On 08/24/2013 08:16 PM, Jim wrote: Fedora 18 how does one put a Boot sector on a SD card to boot off it. The .img file has been install on SD card. how has one learned to use l

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:57:03 +1000 Roger wrote: > I'm using Fedora 19 with the standard Nouveau video driver. > I've noticed that when re positioning gui windows with mouse, > movement is increasingly glunky, jerking in 5-10mm steps in any > direction. When dragging a border of a gui window the mo

Re: Fedora 19: FirewallD and network bridge

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 24.08.2013 11:16, Anthony Messina wrote: > On Friday, August 23, 2013 05:24:02 PM Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> I'd like to configure FirewallD to protect qemu/kvm host and maybe >> guests but the second one is not so important for me because each guest >> has it's own firewall. >> >> What I do

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 05:57 AM, Roger wrote: I'm using Fedora 19 with the standard Nouveau video driver. I've noticed that when re positioning gui windows with mouse, movement is increasingly glunky, <> I swapped over to Ubuntu 13.04 which uses the Nvidia driver and there is no problem at all with m

Video is slow

2013-08-25 Thread Roger
I'm using Fedora 19 with the standard Nouveau video driver. I've noticed that when re positioning gui windows with mouse, movement is increasingly glunky, jerking in 5-10mm steps in any direction. When dragging a border of a gui window the mouse moves to almost 100 mm before edge of the window

Re: how to put a Boot sector on a SD card

2013-08-25 Thread g
hello jim, "at the end of this message, your SD card will self district." (bwg) On 08/24/2013 08:16 PM, Jim wrote: Fedora 18 how does one put a Boot sector on a SD card to boot off it. The .img file has been install on SD card. how has one learned to use linux and not learned how to use a

Re: Can't read DVD

2013-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 07:06:04 +0200 Martin S wrote: > On Saturday, August 24, 2013 03:17:10 PM Doug wrote: > > On 08/24/2013 03:52 AM, Martin S wrote: > > > I have a set of DVDs - about 6 years old - I wanted to check > > > out what was on them. All but 1-2 produce input/output erros > > > and can

Re: Can't read DVD

2013-08-25 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 07:06:04AM +0200, Martin S wrote: > On Saturday, August 24, 2013 03:17:10 PM Doug wrote: > > > I'm sure you are aware that there are some things that run in Wiondows > > that cant be run in Linux. This seems to be an example. That's why > > most of us who use Linux *most*