Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
David wrote: On 4/13/2013 6:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/13/2013 03:07 PM, David wrote: I actually know several (nine) 'old time Linux' users and some are ex Redhat employes as well as commercial (as in paid sys admins) that say that the Ubuntu list is full of useless information. Much of it fl

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike Dwiggins wrote: On 4/12/2013 7:03 AM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 13:24 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: I would agree that in a corporate environment, Fedora release cycle is too often. I personnally run Fedora on my work laptop, but if I were to administer the whole ~150 deskt

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike Dwiggins wrote: On 4/12/2013 3:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.04.2013 12:01, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby: On 2013-04-12 12:58, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Does there exist anywhere a list or comparison about which Releases of Fedora correspond to what Releases of RHEL? I would not dire

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 10:01 PM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 21:48 -0500, g wrote: so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. highly uninformed

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. This is just about where I am at now. CentOs is getting too hard to contend with and I believe I'll have to d

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 21:48 -0500, g wrote: > > so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well > find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the > exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. highly uninformed opinion. If you don't know the differe

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 17:41 +1000, Roger wrote: > I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or > do not correctly interact with php or php updates were flawed and have > not been corrected. I have nothing to back up this assertion other than > the problems now being

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 11:44 +1000, Roger wrote: > Thank you to all for the very helpful info. > I have CentOS-6.4-x86_64-minimal.iso downloaded. > My laptop on which I'll do the first install does not have a > functioning dvd drive so it has to be usb install. > I installed Fedora 18 on it this wa

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 08:44 PM, Roger wrote: <> Thank you to all for the very helpful info. I have CentOS-6.4-x86_64-minimal.iso downloaded. why are you wanting to use centos? My laptop on which I'll do the first install does not have a functioning dvd drive so it has to be usb install. which is

Re: keeping USB disk awake (SOLVED--kind of)

2013-04-16 Thread poma
On 15.04.2013 19:51, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > I have since called the manufacturer of the docking station. They confirmed > that this > particular dock has the "feature" that it autonomously goes to sleep after 5 > minutes of non-use > when connected via USB. That's why nothing I did via the

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes. Hey Roger, Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. The two are not the same thing. Fedora is a development system with a sho

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/13 09:03, William Mattison wrote: > (Fedora-18; all desktops) > > A user needs all > * menu entries, buttons, prompts, messages, application icon labels, etc. > within > * desktops (Gnome, KDE, Xfce, etc.), all LibreOffice applications, vi, etc. > to be English. > > But he needs to be able

how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18; all desktops) A user needs all * menu entries, buttons, prompts, messages, application icon labels, etc. within * desktops (Gnome, KDE, Xfce, etc.), all LibreOffice applications, vi, etc. to be English. But he needs to be able to both * enter and view text in both * English and  simpl

OT: Linode doubling RAM

2013-04-16 Thread Steven Stern
FYI, if you're doing any hosting on Linode, they've announced a free doubling of RAM for all systems. If you have a system there, put it into the upgrade queue. http://blog.linode.com/2013/04/09/linode-nextgen-ram-upgrade/ -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: how to fully delete user account? [SOLVED]

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, Nalan provided the needed information.  The directory "/var/lib/AccountsService/users/" did have a configuration file for the deleted user.  I deleted that file, re-created the user, logged in as that user, and everything was English.  Thank-you, Nalan. Bill. - Original Me

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 04/16/2013 03:41 AM, Roger wrote: This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be aroun

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 04:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> It's very simple: servers don't generally go out and pages from websites, so they don't appear in hit logs. Thus, if all you're examining is those logs, you're not including servers. If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. not a matter of bein

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 04/16/2013 05:33 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: On 04/16/13 14:41, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:47:28PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, b

Re: [389-users] Can i use Same Certificate for all my ldap server

2013-04-16 Thread Kyle Flavin
You can also use a SAN cert, and put in just the names of the servers you will be using. Maybe better than using a wildcard cert. ie: ldap1.example.com ldap2.example.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Rob Crittenden wrote: > expert alert wrote: > >> Hi >> I am planning to deploy all my lda

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2013 12:34 PM, g wrote: On 04/15/2013 11:45 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> I'm saying that the Linux Counter gets most of its data from them and therefore doesn't count servers. the last part of that sentence is where i am getting lost. but that is ok. do not try to explain. i have had trou

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 04/16/2013 12:57 PM, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > > To be fair to Bill, your original analogy equating a subscription to RHN to > > homeowner's insurance is false. He did the best he could with what you > > gave him > > to work with. > > I see what you mean. Would having a p

Re: how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:52:09PM -0700, William Mattison wrote: > The language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese.  Not > what was wanted!  So I thought I could just delete the account and > re-create it.  I used the Users and Groups GUI to delete the user > account.  I did check th

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/04/13 15:41, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:47:28PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the command to make it happen elude

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/15/2013 10:49 AM, Tim wrote: <> I'm taking David's comment as a humourous response. that it was. Anyone who thought that Windows got where it has purely on > its merits would have to be extremely deluded or ignorant. that, or an avid oos fans who can not think for them selves. --

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/15/2013 03:49 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: <> My house has never caught fire yet, but I still have more than the minimal amount of homeowner's insurance required by law. but, do you have enough to cover everything you have? i know someone who shot a movie of all his possessions and store

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/15/2013 11:45 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> I'm saying that the Linux Counter gets most of its data from them and therefore doesn't count servers. the last part of that sentence is where i am getting lost. but that is ok. do not try to explain. i have had trouble understanding a lot of tings f

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Kevin Martin
On 04/16/13 14:41, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:47:28PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > wrote: >> >> How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? >> >> The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the >> command to make

Re: how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.04.2013 21:52, schrieb William Mattison: > The language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese. Not what was > wanted! So I thought I could just delete the account and re-create it. I > used the Users and Groups GUI to delete the user account. I did check that > the home di

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2013 12:57 PM, Matthew J. Roth wrote: To be fair to Bill, your original analogy equating a subscription to RHN to homeowner's insurance is false. He did the best he could with what you gave him to work with. I see what you mean. Would having a plumber or electrician on a retainer in

Re: how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
I forgot to mention: this is a Fedora-18 system.  - Bill. - Original Message - > From: William Mattison > To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:52 PM > Subject: how to fully delete user account? > >T he language for a user account was set to simp

Re: how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 12:52 -0700, William Mattison wrote: > The language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese. Not what was > wanted! So I thought I could just delete the account and re-create it. I > used the Users and Groups GUI to delete the user account. I did check that > t

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:29:02PM +, Bill Oliver wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >My house has never caught fire yet, but I still have more than the >> >minimal amount of homeowner's insurance required by law. >> >> My house might catch fir

how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
The language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese.  Not what was wanted!  So I thought I could just delete the account and re-create it.  I used the Users and Groups GUI to delete the user account.  I did check that the home directory for that account was gone.  Then I re-created the

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:47:28PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? > > The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the > command to make it happen eludes me. The command is 7za, se

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.04.2013 19:47, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: > > How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? > > The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the > command to make it happen eludes me. unrar x86_64 4.2.4-3.fc18 rpmfusion-nonfree with t

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 13:47 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? > > The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding > the command to make it happen eludes me. > > I've found a lot of things t

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the command to make it happen eludes me. I've found a lot of things that don't work e.g.

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 04/16/2013 02:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the command to make it happen eludes me. I've found a lot of things that don't work e.g.

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Andras Simon
2013/4/16, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA : > > How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? > > The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding > the command to make it happen eludes me. > > I've found a lot of things that don't work e.g. > > [root@

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:47:28 -0400 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Can someone tell me how to do this? Never header of p7zip, but there is an "unrar" in the rpmfusion repositories. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/04/13 13:47, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the command to make it happen eludes me. I've found a lot of things that don't work e.g. [ro

Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
How do I extract "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-beta-Ext.rar" ? The instructions said to "yum install p7zip" and I did that, but finding the command to make it happen eludes me. I've found a lot of things that don't work e.g. [root@box10 Downloads]# 7za e "tomato-E3000USB-1.28.9054MIPSR2-

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 01:59 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 04/16/2013 06:33 AM, Craig White wrote: 1. The access to get day of release packages. This means that security updates don't wait for someone down the line to rebuild packages. Yes, if this is additional lag to the lag already contained in RHEL

Re: keeping USB disk awake (SOLVED--kind of)

2013-04-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Sherman Grunewagon wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Sherman Grunewagon wrote: On Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Sherman Grunewagon wrote: On Tue Apr 9, 2013, at 06:02:08, pomo wrote: On 09.04.2013 07:38, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: I have an e

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/16/2013 09:41 AM, Roger wrote: So what does CentOS 6.n desktop, yum update actually update or does it leave all the apps like cinnamon desktop, skype, gimp, apache, php, libreoffice, python, pulseaudio, gnome, Firefox or chrome as they are first installed, circa Fedora 14ish? Mostly the la

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:29:02PM +, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >My house has never caught fire yet, but I still have more than the > >minimal amount of homeowner's insurance required by law. > > My house might catch fire, but I don't hire a fireman to

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/16/2013 06:33 AM, Craig White wrote: 1. The access to get day of release packages. This means that security updates don't wait for someone down the line to rebuild packages. Yes, if this is additional lag to the lag already contained in RHEL is of concern to you, CentOS would not be a "be

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.04.2013 09:41, schrieb Roger: > I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or do > not correctly interact with php or php > updates were flawed and have not been corrected. I have nothing to back up > this assertion other than the problems > now being experienc

Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be around cost of service and lack or avail