Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/12/13 08:09, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 04/12/2013 01:12 AM, Mike Williams wrote: > > > >> The texlive that comes with fedora 17 is texlive 2007, the version from the >> tug link is texlive 2013. On my system I used yum to remove texlive, then >> downloaded the .iso from tug, mounted the iso

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:09:42PM +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: > >! Package hypdestopt Error: This package requires pdfTeX in PDF mode. > > > >See the hypdestopt package documentation for explanation. > >Type H for immediate help. > > ... > > > >l.55 }\@ehc > But powerdot is incompatible with pd

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2013 04:55 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: and could those on a Blackberry please continue to tell us until this company gets the problem fixed? I doubt that they consider it a problem. People in business find top posting natural because they're used to reading things in paper files in r

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Thomas Waldecker
Hi, I installed texlive from the install.sh script. It worked after installing some perl modules which are easily to discover. The texlive package manager worked better for me than the fedora repositories. Especially if you are going to use xelatex which I recommend. Thomas 2013/4/12 Rolf Turn

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 04/12/2013 01:12 AM, Mike Williams wrote: The texlive that comes with fedora 17 is texlive 2007, the version from the tug link is texlive 2013. On my system I used yum to remove texlive, then downloaded the .iso from tug, mounted the iso, installed from that and it works fine. OK. I h

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Nik Trevallyn-Jones < fed...@babel.homelinux.net> wrote: > Hi Gary, > > Just a few thoughts from my own experiences. > > I also support a network of WinXP machines (40+, so fewer than yours). > I use FOG ( http://www.fogproject.org/ ) to automate tasks and re-image

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Tim
poma: >> Lately half of the off topic threads ends with some sort of a mobile >> agenda. :) >> Is it really so attractive, or is it just a good job of marketing. :) David: > Perhaps a sign of the times? :-) > > And no I could not replace my desktop with a handheld. But... I can do > one heck of

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 15:01 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote: > but I'm stuck with having to use Internet Explorer 8/9 for the > application we use to run our business. The providers have > specifically written the application to work with IE but even then > have to "mend" it for each new release. The

Re: keeping USB disk awake

2013-04-11 Thread Sherman Grunewagon
On Wed, April 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, poma wrote: > On 11.04.2013 00:51, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > > Thanks. I have now, as well as hdparm -B 255 drive. > > The disk/docking station still suspends after a few minutes. > > I'm ready to try recompling the kernel with CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=n > > But sin

Dell Inspiron 1100 and Intel 82845 video problems

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Cummings
A week or so ago, I came into this Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop, and I boot it with the Fedora 17 Live CD. The system booted, but fell into Gnome 3 Fallback mode. At least the system runs, so I installed to Hard-Disk. when it rebooted, I started to have graphics problems. X either failed to start,

Re: keeping USB disk awake

2013-04-11 Thread Sherman Grunewagon
On Wed, April 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, poma wrote: > On 11.04.2013 00:51, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > > Thanks. I have now, as well as hdparm -B 255 drive. > > The disk/docking station still suspends after a few minutes. > > I'm ready to try recompling the kernel with CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=n > > But since

Testing.

2013-04-11 Thread Rolf Turner
Apologies for the noise. My previous message to this list seems not to have gone through; wanted to check/test. cheers, Rolf Turner -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/us

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Nik Trevallyn-Jones
Hi Gary, Just a few thoughts from my own experiences. I also support a network of WinXP machines (40+, so fewer than yours). I use FOG ( http://www.fogproject.org/ ) to automate tasks and re-image the machines, and everything runs quite smoothly. Some time ago, I tested a Fedora install with

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread David
On 4/11/2013 6:06 PM, poma wrote: > On 10.04.2013 17:09, Temlakos wrote: >> Everyone: >> >> This might seem a little beyond scope to most of you, but: > […] > > Lately half of the off topic threads ends with some sort of a mobile > agenda. :) > Is it really so attractive, or is it just a good job

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread poma
On 10.04.2013 17:09, Temlakos wrote: > Everyone: > > This might seem a little beyond scope to most of you, but: […] Lately half of the off topic threads ends with some sort of a mobile agenda. :) Is it really so attractive, or is it just a good job of marketing. :) poma -- users mailing list

Re: Off Topic - Block iCloud -

2013-04-11 Thread poma
On 11.04.2013 20:45, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Yes the Cisco router/Tomato combination works more predictably and the > logging works, something that DD-WRT never seemed to get right. So far > I've set up 4 rules and they seem to do what is expected. Time will tell > if I've got t

Re: Disability relief

2013-04-11 Thread Frank McCormick
On 04/11/2013 04:42 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:14:09 -0400, Alan Gagne wrote: / I do always set that, yes, as soon as I find it, and it does />/ help; but I have yet to find it in Gnome 3 or xfce4. Anybody know where />/ it lurks? / I have not read this entire thread s

Re: DSoD : Diagonal Screen of Death

2013-04-11 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:59:36 +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 08 April 2013, Beartooth sent: >> On Fedora 17 and 18 I sometimes get a display like nothing else I know. >> It's made up of short horizontal lines, some in color, arranged into >> long diagonals that cover the screen, with ab

Re:Disability relief

2013-04-11 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:14:09 -0400, Alan Gagne wrote: >> >/ I do always set that, yes, as soon as I find it, and it does >> />/ help; but I have yet to find it in Gnome 3 or xfce4. Anybody know >> where />/ it lurks? >> / >> I have not read this entire thread so maybe I am too late to the game

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2013 21:14, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/11/2013 11:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> sarcasm on mailing lists without smileys or whatever indication >> is pretty dumb - there is not "but" and no "if", it is dumb > > IMAO, if you can't make your intentions clear without smileys, you should >

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2013 11:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: sarcasm on mailing lists without smileys or whatever indication is pretty dumb - there is not "but" and no "if", it is dumb IMAO, if you can't make your intentions clear without smileys, you should learn how to express yourself better. Of course, o

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2013 20:44, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 07:33:14PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 11.04.2013 18:27, schrieb Suvayu Ali: >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: see above - you responded to "I'm not... It's an utterly useless machi

Re: Off Topic - Block iCloud -

2013-04-11 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 10/04/13 20:11, poma wrote: Tomato is also BusyBox based, and if it's usable why not. poma Yes the Cisco router/Tomato combination works more predictably and the logging works, something that DD-WRT never seemed to get right. So far I've set up 4 rules and they seem to do what is expecte

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 07:33:14PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 11.04.2013 18:27, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> see above - you responded to "I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine > >> for > >> almost everything that I d

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 12:03 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Temlakos wrote: > > Everyone: > > > > This might seem a little beyond scope to most of you, but: > > > > Windows XP is approaching its own EOL. > > > > Steven J. Vaughn-Nichols released this article > >

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2013 08:45 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: I think that you have missed the point. I completely agree with you that using a tablet as a proper work horse is a none-starter. That is*why* I said that there is no point going to the effort of replacing the already competent enough Android OS wit

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2013 18:27, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> see above - you responded to "I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine for >> almost everything that I do" - so you have learned to make your context clear >> in the message you write a

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:31:17PM +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: > > I'm not completely sure if I installed texlive using yum, or if texlive came > with the initial install of Fedora 17. My vague recollection is that there > was > a latex facility that came with Fedora 17 but it was incomplete, and t

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > see above - you responded to "I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine for > almost everything that I do" - so you have learned to make your context clear > in the message you write and not in the message you thought you write Sar

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Temlakos wrote: > Everyone: > > This might seem a little beyond scope to most of you, but: > > Windows XP is approaching its own EOL. > > Steven J. Vaughn-Nichols released this article Personally I don't give a rat's ass about what Microsoft-infiltrated ZiffGates

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2013 17:45, schrieb Gary Stainburn: > On Thursday 11 April 2013 15:39:15 Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 11.04.2013 16:03, schrieb Gary Stainburn: >>> On Thursday 11 April 2013 14:55:01 Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 11 April 2013, Michael Leung sent: > I am thinking about some li

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Thursday 11 April 2013 15:39:15 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 11.04.2013 16:03, schrieb Gary Stainburn: > > On Thursday 11 April 2013 14:55:01 Tim wrote: > >> Allegedly, on or about 11 April 2013, Michael Leung sent: > >>> I am thinking about some linux based opensource tablet os. > >> > >> I'm not.

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread George Avrunin
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:46:15 +0300, Susi Lehtola wrote: > Don't install stuff manually when things have already been packages. > Fedora 18 features a complete TeXLive 2012 distribution; you can also > get it on Fedora 17 by Except that I think Fedora installs the versions from the TeX Live s

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Susi Lehtola
Quoting Rolf Turner : Under Fedora 17 I recently had problems with running latex on a file that previously (under Ubuntu) I had no difficulty with. (A while back I had to switch from Ubuntu to Fedora for reasons that I won't go into here.) I thought that perhaps I might be able to get rid of

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2013 16:03, schrieb Gary Stainburn: > On Thursday 11 April 2013 14:55:01 Tim wrote: >> Allegedly, on or about 11 April 2013, Michael Leung sent: >>> I am thinking about some linux based opensource tablet os. >> >> I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine for almost everything that I >

Re: XDG_CONFIG_HOME

2013-04-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > ** > Font control files and a bunch of other stuff for per-user configuration > is supposed to be stored relative to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME . I would assume > that this is be set by default by either a standard login script, or by the > w

XDG_CONFIG_HOME

2013-04-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
Font control files and a bunch of other stuff for per-user configuration is supposed to be stored relative to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME . I would assume that this is be set by default by either a standard login script, or by the window manager, which in my case is KDE. But it isn't. Is this a problem? I

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Thursday 11 April 2013 14:55:01 Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 11 April 2013, Michael Leung sent: > > I am thinking about some linux based opensource tablet os. > > I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine for almost everything that I > do. I can't see what this would give you over the

Re: presto

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 04/09/2013 01:36 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I am curious to know why anyone would not want to use the deltarpms? It > works well and I am always looking for ways to save bandwidth, the > smaller the files I download the better. Because on some of my older machines, it takes

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Gary Stainburn
I still have 70+ users running WinXP and for the moment have no plans to change them just because support will cease. I'm sure there are others in a similar situation. I would love to move all 200+ users to Linux + LibreOffice but I'm stuck with having to use Internet Explorer 8/9 for the appl

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 April 2013, Michael Leung sent: > I am thinking about some linux based opensource tablet os. I'm not... It's an utterly useless machine for almost everything that I do. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Mar 24 13:09:09 UTC 2013 x8

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:03:23 +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: > > Under Fedora 17 I recently had problems with running latex on a file that > previously (under Ubuntu) I had no difficulty with. (A while back I had to > switch from Ubuntu to Fedora for reasons that I won't go into here.) > > I thought

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Michael Leung
I am thinking about some linux based opensource tablet os. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 16:43 +1000, Michael Leung wrote: > > Now is a post-pc era. > > I've never been in the major computing rat race, I've always used the > alternatives (never had a C64, u

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Mike Williams
> > On 04/11/2013 09:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 04/11/13 17:03, Rolf Turner wrote: >> >>> Under Fedora 17 I recently had problems with running latex on a file that >>> previously (under Ubuntu) I had no difficulty with. (A while back I had >>> to >>> switch from Ubuntu to Fedora for reasons

Re: [OT] How to get all packages belonging to a group?

2013-04-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:43:56 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: I don't think this question is off topic for the users' list. Hi all, is there a method to list all packages belonging to an installed group? For example, "yum grouplist" lists LibreOffice as installed group, and I want to know

Re: ZDNet Recommends Linux

2013-04-11 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 16:43 +1000, Michael Leung wrote: > Now is a post-pc era. I've never been in the major computing rat race, I've always used the alternatives (never had a C64, used Amiga when Windows became all the rage, Linux later on, and other things before we had personal computers that w

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Rolf Turner
I'm not completely sure if I installed texlive using yum, or if texlive came with the initial install of Fedora 17. My vague recollection is that there was a latex facility that came with Fedora 17 but it was incomplete, and that I did indeed do "yum install texlive" to fix things up. Now whe

Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/11/13 17:03, Rolf Turner wrote: > > Under Fedora 17 I recently had problems with running latex on a file that > previously (under Ubuntu) I had no difficulty with. (A while back I had to > switch from Ubuntu to Fedora for reasons that I won't go into here.) > > I thought that perhaps I might

Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-11 Thread Rolf Turner
Under Fedora 17 I recently had problems with running latex on a file that previously (under Ubuntu) I had no difficulty with. (A while back I had to switch from Ubuntu to Fedora for reasons that I won't go into here.) I thought that perhaps I might be able to get rid of the flakiness by re-inst

Re: f18 moodle setup

2013-04-11 Thread Remi Collet
Le 11/04/2013 10:45, Virágh János a écrit : >> Does we really need to allow apache to "write" the moodle web pages ? > > Yes, we do - during the *configuration* of moodle No, configuration should be in /etc/moodle, not within the static content. Please read FHS. So my current recommendation f

Re: Re: f18 moodle setup

2013-04-11 Thread Virágh János
On 04/10/2013 10:35 AM, Remi Collet wrote: >... >> /var/www/moodle(/.*)? >> gen_context(system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_rw_content_t,s0) > >Why this ? >Does we really need to allow apache to "write" the moodle web pages ? Yes, we do - during the *configuration* of moodle either using the web route, w