Fedora 17 Kernel Updates

Hi, When I run a Fedora 17 Repository update and a new kernel has been introduced, the updating of the kernel implements a grub2 update. In order to do this grub update the process invokes /sbin/grubby, which fails with an access denied failure. Why does grubby fail with this error when

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > This is not a dependency issue. > > Nothing was pulled in because "Install updates and restart" restarted > first, and when the laptop started booting, the update kicked in, but > without activating wireless, apparently. As I've described. I

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

Hi On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I see. I removed it a long time ago because it could find my network > connection to look for updates but insisted that I was off-line when it > came to doing the work. > When it was originally introduced, PackageKit used to rely on Network

Re: Display rates -

On 01/28/2013 04:54 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 01/27/2013 01:57 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> xrandr -q > >No that just shows the same thing, the equipment is rated much higher. > >[root@Box9 xorg.conf.d]# xrandr -q >Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x

Re: f18 replacement for KEYTABLE, SYSFONT?

Jorge Martínez López wrote: > > 2013/2/2 Michael Hannon : >> Greetings.  I just did a "fedup" upgrade from f17 to f18.  The >> system is now up and running, mostly just fine, but I did notice a brief >> warning message during boot to the effect that KEYTABLE is deprecated. >> >> I've seen some me

Re: Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

On 02/02/2013 03:50 PM, Jim wrote: The contamination normally happens in the ~/.thunderbird directory. go in and save Your Mail directory and abook.mab file and Delete your whole .thunderbird directory , then restart Thunderbird and it will recreate a new .thunderbird directory then reinsert yo

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 08:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/01/2013 08:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:52 PM, Craig White wrote: It's clear that you want this e-mail list, informal as it is to respect your sense of proper grammar. No, it's not "his sense of proper grammar," it's proper gra

Mouse Stops Responding - F18

I've noticed that since upgrading to F18, my mouse will work splendidly for a while and then it becomes most peculiar in its behavior. I will be able to "Open" a new application or folder / file...but the left mouse (nor right for that matter!) button will do nothing within the folder / fil

Re: Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

On 02/02/2013 03:35 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: You didn't say_why_ you could not rollback or downgrade. What error did you get? As a last resort, it should be possible to download older packages and apply them with "rpm --oldpackage -Uvh …": Good question. I wish I had an answer. Yum report

Re: Fedora Release Notes.....

On 02/02/2013 07:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/03/2013 08:41 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I usually read up on the release notes immediately after upgrading. But I'm going to be on the road a lot, with no internet connection within the next 4 weeks, and I don't want to waint until I find

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 08:38 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 3 February 2013 01:13, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/02/2013 05:04 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:02:18 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: There's your challenge... show me that you're not just maki

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 3 February 2013 01:13, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 02/02/2013 05:04 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:02:18 -0800 >> Joe Zeff wrote: >> >>> On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: There's your challenge... show me that you're not just making a vacuous po

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

On 02/02/2013 02:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: the new crap is supposed to update at reboot to force fedora more to be like windows - thankfully you can uninstall the whole packagekit stuff and use "yum upgrade" and hopefully this will never change I see. I removed it a long time ago because it

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 10:33 AM, Lailah wrote: El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 13:19 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: On 02/01/2013 01:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Joe Zeff mailto:j...@zeff.us> > > wrote: > > As an example, does anybody reading this kn

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 05:04 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:02:18 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: There's your challenge... show me that you're not just making a vacuous point. You're the one asserting, without evidence or any attempt at proof that my

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:58:53 -0800 jdow wrote: > Of course some people use j instead of i when dealing with complex > numbers. j am one of them. > > {O,o} I guess that makes me irrational? I think you wanted to ask "J guess that makes me irrational?". Note the use of j instead of i. Either wa

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/01/2013 08:19 PM, doug wrote: On 02/01/2013 07:52 PM, Craig White wrote: /snip/ Reminds me of a book that I bought that looked interesting... "Eats Shoots & Leaves by Lynn Truss." It was about the need for things like punctuation to clarify the intent of something. In the end, the aut

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/01/2013 08:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:52 PM, Craig White wrote: It's clear that you want this e-mail list, informal as it is to respect your sense of proper grammar. No, it's not "his sense of proper grammar," it's proper grammar as it's been taught in schools in every Eng

Re: OT Web servers and ISP -and Rails

On 02/01/2013 08:08 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:19 +1100, Roger wrote: Thanks Phil I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on a shared server. Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? Apologies for OT but google so

Re: Fedora Release Notes.....

On 02/03/2013 08:41 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > I usually read up on the release notes immediately after upgrading. But I'm > going to be on the road a lot, with no internet connection within the next 4 > weeks, and I don't want to waint until I find an internet cafe, or until I > retur h

Fedora Release Notes.....

I usually read up on the release notes immediately after upgrading. But I'm going to be on the road a lot, with no internet connection within the next 4 weeks, and I don't want to waint until I find an internet cafe, or until I retur home. Is there somewhere that I could find the release notes

Re: Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

On 02/03/2013 07:35 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:17:11 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> Yesterday, I ran an update on my desktop, using F 16 that included an >> update to Thunderbird. The new version wouldn't run, but I was able to >> get it back by downgrading. >> >> I update

Re: Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

On 02/02/2013 05:17 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Yesterday, I ran an update on my desktop, using F 16 that included an update to Thunderbird. The new version wouldn't run, but I was able to get it back by downgrading. I updated again, today (I do it every morning while my breakfast's cooking.) and Tb

Not So Bad......

So I finally have gone ahead and performed the Upgrade to F18 using Fedup. And I have to say, it wasn't as bad as I had THOUGHT it was gonna be! Kudos to the devs for this oneI just hope that in the future, this'll remain the way to upgrade your system. Also I am curious as to if there will

Memory leak in xorg?

I use xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.12.4-2.fc17.x86_64 with priority Nvidia Driver with KDM-Kwin-KDE ... I don't know which one has memory leak but plasma-desktop and kwin and kdm use normal memory (I mean after working for some days with my system, the memory usage of them is the same or very little cha

Re: Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:17:11 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > Yesterday, I ran an update on my desktop, using F 16 that included an > update to Thunderbird. The new version wouldn't run, but I was able to > get it back by downgrading. > > I updated again, today (I do it every morning while my breakfas

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

Am 02.02.2013 23:33, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 02/02/2013 02:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> I'm no big expert on these things, but I'd imagine it's going to be >> pretty difficult to pull in anything, never mind their dependencies, if >> the wireless doesn't turn on, and the laptop is not connecte

Re: F18: Can I get paint and paste back?

On 02/02/2013 05:48 PM, sean darcy wrote: On 02/02/2013 04:18 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 02/02/2013 03:40 PM, sean darcy wrote: I like being able to "paint and paste" on my laptop. Mark some text and click both buttons to paste it somewhere else. Now I have to do Windows Ct

Re: F18: Can I get paint and paste back?

On 02/02/2013 04:18 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 02/02/2013 03:40 PM, sean darcy wrote: I like being able to "paint and paste" on my laptop. Mark some text and click both buttons to paste it somewhere else. Now I have to do Windows Ctl-C and Ctl-V. I've tried the trick from h

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

On 02/02/2013 02:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm no big expert on these things, but I'd imagine it's going to be pretty difficult to pull in anything, never mind their dependencies, if the wireless doesn't turn on, and the laptop is not connected anywhere I'm not familiar with the program, bu

Re: Configuring KDM instead of LightDM

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 21:41:21 +0100 Frédéric Bron wrote: > > I've installed the LXDE spin. But now I want to use KDM instead > > LightDM, because I find it more configurable. The thing is that I've > > installed KDM but I can't find with what tool I will set it properly. In > > previ

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

Rahul Sundaram writes: « HTML content follows » Hi On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Or, perhaps, I'm missing something. This laptop was updated from F17 to F18, and perhaps I need to install a package that automatically downloads updates in advance, so on up

Warning! Possible Thunderbird problem

Yesterday, I ran an update on my desktop, using F 16 that included an update to Thunderbird. The new version wouldn't run, but I was able to get it back by downgrading. I updated again, today (I do it every morning while my breakfast's cooking.) and Tbird "updated" again. Same issue, but now

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 12:58 PM, jdow wrote: {O,o} I guess that makes me irrational? I'm sorry, but the number you have reached is imaginary. Please rotate your phone ninety degrees and try again. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: ht

Re: Configuring KDM instead of LightDM

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:37:01 -0200 Lailah wrote: > How can I use it instead > of LightDM? F18 uses systemd to start the login screen now instead of the old prefdm code. Switching from GDM to KDM for me was via: systemctl disable gdm.service systemctl enable kdm.service So something like that wi

Re: Display rates -

On 02/02/2013 02:17 PM, Jon Ingason wrote: > 2013-01-28 01:31, poma skrev: > >> >> Automation in da display manager style: >> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: >> display-setup-script=/usr/bin/RandR >> … > > Where can I put such scipt if I am running gdm in F18 (Gnome 3.x)? > /etc/gdm/Init/Default: …

Re: Configuring KDM instead of LightDM

Lailah wrote: > > Hello all! > > I've installed the LXDE spin. But now I want to use KDM > instead LightDM, because I find it more configurable. The thing is that > I've installed KDM but I can't find with what tool I will set it > properly. In previous versions, it was with Syst

Re: F18: Can I get paint and paste back?

On 02/02/2013 03:40 PM, sean darcy wrote: I like being able to "paint and paste" on my laptop. Mark some text and click both buttons to paste it somewhere else. Now I have to do Windows Ctl-C and Ctl-V. I've tried the trick from http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/9447

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 03:58 PM, jdow wrote: On 2013/02/02 10:39, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, Lailah wrote: I never see that in my life. People, I know is fun to make jokes with TV series and movies and the like, but think that this is an international list. The Whole World hasn't any due

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 2013/02/02 10:39, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, Lailah wrote: I never see that in my life. People, I know is fun to make jokes with TV series and movies and the like, but think that this is an international list. The Whole World hasn't any due to know all of your stuff. That, i

Re: "Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

Hi On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Or, perhaps, I'm missing something. This laptop was updated from F17 to > F18, and perhaps I need to install a package that automatically downloads > updates in advance, so on update everything gets installed locally, but > poking arou

Re: Configuring KDM instead of LightDM

> I've installed the LXDE spin. But now I want to use KDM instead > LightDM, because I find it more configurable. The thing is that I've > installed KDM but I can't find with what tool I will set it properly. In > previous versions, it was with System Settings, but now I can't find

F18: Can I get paint and paste back?

I like being able to "paint and paste" on my laptop. Mark some text and click both buttons to paste it somewhere else. Now I have to do Windows Ctl-C and Ctl-V. I've tried the trick from http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/94475[ about creating a .conf file in /etc/X1

Configuring KDM instead of LightDM

Hello all! I've installed the LXDE spin. But now I want to use KDM instead LightDM, because I find it more configurable. The thing is that I've installed KDM but I can't find with what tool I will set it properly. In previous versions, it was with System Settings, but now I can't

POL on fedora 18

Hi, i'm trying to run POL (playonlinux) on fedora 18 but without success. is there someone who has been already successful to run it on F18 ? I installed rpm using yum install but i'm not able to find it among applications :( thx. -- Alain ---

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

Antonio Olivares inbox.com> writes: > > And, on a more international note, if somebody just mentions "the war," > > which war do you think of first? > War between the States!(Civil War) I used to work with a gentleman who grew up in northern Virginia. He said it wasn't until he was in high s

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, Lailah wrote: I never see that in my life. People, I know is fun to make jokes with TV series and movies and the like, but think that this is an international list. The Whole World hasn't any due to know all of your stuff. That, in fact, was exactly what I was demonst

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 07:22 AM, Craig White wrote: Perhaps that is your point though, bombastically scoring meaningless points. And now we see the complete lack of content in your position: argument by insult. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Fedora 17: unable to login. Laptop keypad is locked

On 2/2/2013 8:36 AM, santosh wrote: I am having dual boot Winxp / Fedora 17. In winxp everything is working fine. By mistake the "Shift key" was pressed for a long time, It displayed to activate "sticky key". I clicked on "Activate" button blindly. (As I was not aware of it) At that time keyb

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 13:19 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 02/01/2013 01:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Joe Zeff > > wrote: > > > > As an example, does anybody reading this know what I mean by "an > > identical cousin?" >

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 12:08 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 02/01/2013 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Also you can install the following extension to determine which app gets > > launched automatically in which specific workspace. > > *Shrug!* I prefer a DE where you don't have to hunt do

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 14:41 -0800, Antonio Olivares escribió: > > And, on a more international note, if somebody just mentions "the war," > > which war do you think of first? > > War on Drugs! > > War between the States!(Civil War) > > War of 1812! > > Spanish American War(1898--??) > >

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 12:26 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 02/01/2013 11:13 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > As the ox ploughs IIRC (or plows if you prefer). I don't know if there > > are any examples of the Romans using that, and the Greeks only did it > > sometimes, probably to annoy pe

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

El vie, 01-02-2013 a las 13:45 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 02/01/2013 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I see you are prey to the misconception that I am familiar with the > > history of US sitcoms. While I've seen several of them, not being > > American myself I can't say I know this on

Fedora 17: unable to login. Laptop keypad is locked

Hi, I am having dual boot Winxp / Fedora 17. In winxp everything is working fine. By mistake the "Shift key" was pressed for a long time, It displayed to activate "sticky key". I clicked on "Activate" button blindly. (As I was not aware of it) At that time keyboard of my laptop was working fin

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 02:02 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: > > There's your challenge... show me that you're not just making a vacuous > > point. > > You're the one asserting, without evidence or any attempt at proof that > my point is vacuous. It's not up to

"Install Updates & Restart" on a laptop

On a lark, I decided to try this option to grab a week's worth of updates. The laptop rebooted immediately. Churned for a while, I could see on the console that it's trying to do updates. The laptop rebooted again, and the end result was that nothing was updated, so I just did yum update, as

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Craig White wrote: > Probably in another form, another time and space (and medium), you and > Patrick and I might become best of friends but I gotta tell you, get > over yourself and your opinions and focus on something that actually > matters. > Craig and Joe I

Re: Display rates -

2013-01-28 01:31, poma skrev: Automation in da display manager style: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: display-setup-script=/usr/bin/RandR … Where can I put such scipt if I am running gdm in F18 (Gnome 3.x)? /usr/bin/RandR: #!/bin/sh # ViewSonic VX2035wm xrandr --newmode "1680x1050R" 119.00 1680

Re: Writing Music to a DVD instead of CD

Allegedly, on or about 01 February 2013, Jim sent: > How can I write a Music format to a DVD instead of CD . > > I have to many Songs to write a CD. > > Can K3B or Brasero do the job Do you want a disc full of audio files (ogg, mp3, wav, etc.), that will be played on a computer? You can do t

Re: winhq and 64bits

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Junk wrote: > On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 08:48 +0100, Raf Roger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > i'm trying to install msxml6 and dotnet35 as 64bits package under > > winehd, but for an unknow reason (at least from me) it seems wine > > always requests and accepts only 32bit

Re: f18 replacement for KEYTABLE, SYSFONT?

Hello Mike, 2013/2/2 Michael Hannon : > Greetings. I just did a "fedup" upgrade from f17 to f18. The system is now > up and running, mostly just fine, but I did notice a brief warning message > during boot to the effect that KEYTABLE is deprecated. > > I've seen some mention of this on the web,

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:02:18 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: > > There's your challenge... show me that you're not just making a > > vacuous point. > > You're the one asserting, without evidence or any attempt at proof > that my point is vacuous. It's not up t

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/02/2013 01:51 AM, Craig White wrote: There's your challenge... show me that you're not just making a vacuous point. You're the one asserting, without evidence or any attempt at proof that my point is vacuous. It's not up to me to refute your baseless claim it's up to you to establish i

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:36 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/01/2013 05:49 PM, Craig White wrote: > > good grammar is actually a useful endeavor. > > The purpose of this list is communication. Good grammar facilitates it > while bad grammar impedes it. but you are making a vacuous point and I

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

On 02/01/2013 05:49 PM, Craig White wrote: good grammar is actually a useful endeavor. The purpose of this list is communication. Good grammar facilitates it while bad grammar impedes it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: winhq and 64bits

On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 08:48 +0100, Raf Roger wrote: > Hi, > > > i'm trying to install msxml6 and dotnet35 as 64bits package under > winehd, but for an unknow reason (at least from me) it seems wine > always requests and accepts only 32bits packages. > > > why ? my fedora 18 installation is a 64

winhq and 64bits

Hi, i'm trying to install msxml6 and dotnet35 as 64bits package under winehd, but for an unknow reason (at least from me) it seems wine always requests and accepts only 32bits packages. why ? my fedora 18 installation is a 64bits OS, so where is the problem ? what should i test now ? thx -- Ala