Re: keyboard failure that doesn't seem to be hardware

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 10/19/2012 10:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I've not been paying to much attention to this thread recently. Time to put the "failing" keyboard back on the F17 system to verify the problem still exists? Ed: Thanks for the reply. Understand that this isn't a problem that has alot of bearin

Re: keyboard failure that doesn't seem to be hardware

2012-10-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/20/2012 01:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:20:35 -0700 >> Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> > > This is getting to be way too much "fun" ... > > A different keyboard (the one that came with the HP beast) does not have any > failure problems after a couple of days of t

Re: keyboard failure that doesn't seem to be hardware

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:20:35 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: This is getting to be way too much "fun" ... A different keyboard (the one that came with the HP beast) does not have any failure problems after a couple of days of testing. The original keyboard (a MicroSoft Natural from @2001 ..

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/19/2012 01:17 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >I get [using the opendns name servers again]: > >[bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @8.8.8.8 +short www.newegg.com >208.91.197.27 >[bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @208.67.220.220 +short www.newegg.com >208.91.197.27 >[

Re: [spam]

2012-10-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/20/2012 11:37 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > And who might this list moderator be? Best described as "admins". users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to

Re: [spam]

2012-10-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:51:53 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: >>snip > In general, quoting or not, it's best to just leave mailing list spam > alone, or send an off-list message to the list moderator. Replying > just compounds the problem. >> snip And who might this list moderator be? -- cmg -- u

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:48:45 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/19/2012 04:42 PM, Tim wrote: > > Don't make me get out my slide rule... > > I was using one in high school, back before there were desktop > computers, and the first computer I programmed used punched cards. > Do you really want to cont

CFT: A Puppet module generator

2012-10-19 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
Ok, I need some help, from the #Fedora or #Redhat Communities. There is a really neat project called cft: http://cft.et.redhat.com/ The maintainer said he hasn't had time to develop it further. So, we need some ruby wiz to take over and adopt the project. So, +David Lutterkort told me he would be

Re: X hangs when screen blanks on docked laptop

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:56 -0400, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/12/2012 11:32 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > So any idea what I should look for in my userid's configuration files to > > fix this? > > Have you tried comparing the two config files? I don't know which one's > the important one, and I

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 04:54 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Fernando Cassia wrote: In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often than not

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:03 PM, JD wrote: > I would LOVE to know how you got away from the > emXY naming Sorry, I did it many months ago with assistance from this same list if I remember correctly. And right now I don“t have my Linux machine nearby to go look what I did change. It seems by look

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 07:53 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: I recently changed a machine using this method with no problem. The disk had been moved after a motherboard failed, and the nic was coming up as eth2 instead of eth0. Had two previous nics listed, and just removed those lines from the file, and

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Phil Dobbin
Digimer wrote: > On 10/19/2012 06:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:01:19PM -0400, David wrote: >>> I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the >>> sluice gate. Can't fix *your* email? At least please don't re-swan it >>> for those of us that can

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 04:48 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Fernando Cassia wrote: In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often than not while moving things aroun

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 04:18 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1e:8c:93:b5:8d", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1b:21:69:5f:74", ATTR{dev_id}

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/19/2012 04:42 PM, Tim wrote: Don't make me get out my slide rule... I was using one in high school, back before there were desktop computers, and the first computer I programmed used punched cards. Do you really want to continue this DSW? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:57 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > And calling people Newbies just because they do something you don't > like is probably not the best idea. Some of us have probably been > using Linux longer than you have and may have been using computers > since before you were born. (Hint: I

Re: [spam]

2012-10-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/10/12 18:51, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 03:47:34PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the sluice gate. Can't fix*your* email? At least please don't re-swan it for those of us that can. Who are you calling a "newbie

Re: spam reasons to strip content

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 October 2012 23:47, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/19/2012 03:01 PM, David wrote: >> >> I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the >> sluice gate. Can't fix*your* email? At least please don't re-swan it >> >> for those of us that can. > > > Who are you calling a "newbie

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/19/2012 03:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:01:19PM -0400, David wrote: I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the sluice gate. Can't fix *your* email? At least please don't re-swan it for those of us that can. Hey, let's be nice to the

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Fernando Cassia wrote: >> In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I >> hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). >> >> Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often >> than not while moving things around I get the

Re: [spam]

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 03:47:34PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the > >sluice gate. Can't fix*your* email? At least please don't re-swan it > >for those of us that can. > Who are you calling a "newbie?" I quoted it back to make sure

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Fernando Cassia wrote: > In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I > hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). > > Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often > than not while moving things around I get the cables reversed so ETH0 > goes

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/19/2012 03:01 PM, David wrote: I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the sluice gate. Can't fix*your* email? At least please don't re-swan it for those of us that can. Who are you calling a "newbie?" I quoted it back to make sure it was clear what I was ref

Re: spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Digimer
On 10/19/2012 06:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:01:19PM -0400, David wrote: >> I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the >> sluice gate. Can't fix *your* email? At least please don't re-swan it >> for those of us that can. > > Hey, let's be n

spam and newbies and niceness

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:01:19PM -0400, David wrote: > I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the > sluice gate. Can't fix *your* email? At least please don't re-swan it > for those of us that can. Hey, let's be nice to the newbies. Otherwise, they're just going to go

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
JD wrote: > > On 10/19/2012 03:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I >> hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). >> >> Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often >> than not while moving things aroun

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread David G . Miller
Dave Stevens uniserve.com> writes: > > I tried to uninstall OpenOffice before installing LibreOffice and > found that my proprietary ATI X driver was uninstalled too. After > sorting that out I wound up sticking with OO after all. But now my > monitors mirror each other and I don't see whe

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 03:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often than not while moving things around I get the cables reverse

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread David
On 10/19/2012 3:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/19/2012 11:37 AM, gary clark wrote: >> http://duluthphotographers.com/700468.php >> >> > > Will somebody please get this spammer off of our list! I had this 'fixed' about two weeks ago and then you Newbies opened the sluice gate. Can't fix *your* em

Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often than not while moving things around I get the cables reversed so ETH0 goes to ISP2 and ETH0 goes to ISP2, or v

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Reindl Harald : F15-F15 are End Of Life and unsopported F16 will be EOL end of this year https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life Yes, I knew that and in any case the ATI driver is unsupported, just want to get it working. dave -- If all the advertising in the world were to

Enabling DMA for atapi cd/dvd/rw

2012-10-19 Thread JD
# hdparm -d1 /dev/sr0 /dev/sr0: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device So, could someone please advise how to enable DMA for the cd/dvd/rw drive? It would sure help my aging laptop to play high quali

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Jack Craig : or, ... *Assuming you're using Gnome, try using System->Preferences->Monitors. KDE has a similar tool in System Settings->Display.* Gnome is right but it shows only one monitor. Dave On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Jack Craig wrote: are there any display conf

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Jack Craig : are there any display config options in, "ls -l /usr/bin/system-config-*" ?? doesn't seem so: lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 13 Nov 18 2010 /usr/bin/system-config-authentication -> consolehelper lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 13 Nov 18 2010 /usr/bin/system-config-boot -> con

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Jack Craig
or, ... *Assuming you're using Gnome, try using System->Preferences->Monitors. KDE has a similar tool in System Settings->Display.* On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > are there any display config options in, > > "ls -l /usr/bin/system-config-*" ?? > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Jack Craig
are there any display config options in, "ls -l /usr/bin/system-config-*" ?? On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > I tried to uninstall OpenOffice before installing LibreOffice and found > that my proprietary ATI X driver was uninstalled too. After sorting that > out I wound u

enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Stevens
I tried to uninstall OpenOffice before installing LibreOffice and found that my proprietary ATI X driver was uninstalled too. After sorting that out I wound up sticking with OO after all. But now my monitors mirror each other and I don't see where/how to change to the pan view I had before

Re: Laptop doesn't know which display to use when docked.

2012-10-19 Thread David G . Miller
Terry Polzin wowway.com> writes: > > I am running xfce on F17 completely patched and current. > > My laptop is a HP probook 6460b. When I boot it docked the grub screen > appears on the external display. When the boot has completed the > background screen is displayed on the external display.

Re: no audio on kernel-3.6.1-1.fc17.x86_64

2012-10-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:07 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 19 October 2012 07:24, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 10/18/2012 11:07 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >> > >> I've got working audio now on 3.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64, but I'm not sure what > >> I did to fix it. > > > > > > And then a few minutes later

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 October 2012 19:40, Jack Craig wrote: > for all the moderator dialog of late, its too bad they miss this part of > their charter!!! > > > SPAM!!! > Please don't re-post it. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: SPAM EMAIL

2012-10-19 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/19/2012 02:14 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Can someone please do something about the spam coming on this list??? I see a lot of this coming from Yahoo addresses. Gary, it might be a good idea to change your password and/or kill your Yahoo account. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lis

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/19/2012 11:40 AM, Jack Craig wrote: for all the moderator dialog of late, its /*too bad they miss this part of their charter!*/!! Yes. We shouldn't have to create custom filters to get rid of this trash. The username should have been purged from the list long ago. -- users mailing lis

Re: SPAM EMAIL

2012-10-19 Thread John Aldrich
Can someone please do something about the spam coming on this list??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a q

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/19/2012 11:37 AM, gary clark wrote: http://duluthphotographers.com/700468.php Will somebody please get this spammer off of our list! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re:

2012-10-19 Thread Jack Craig
for all the moderator dialog of late, its *too bad they miss this part of their charter!*!! SPAM!!! On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:37 AM, gary clark wrote: > http://duluthphotographers.com/700468.php > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

USB modem support broken since linux-3.6.1

2012-10-19 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, After updating the kernel of the Fedora-17 installation on my laptop (from 3.5.4 to 3.6.1), both of my umts-modems aren't found anymore. The first one (was usb0) is integrated into the notebook, the one I typically use is an external ZTE MF652. The ZTE's cdrom emulation (used for windows setup

Re: Xine-Check question

2012-10-19 Thread JD
On 10/19/2012 10:40 AM, edik landave wrote: It does seem that you haven't installed your plugins. Download them and as root: cp /path/to/dowload/dir/essential-20061022.tar.bz2 /usr/lib/. cd /usr/lib rm -f essential-20061022.tar.bz2 mv essential-20061022/ win32 #or whatevername you want ls -lZ w

Re: Xine-Check question

2012-10-19 Thread edik landave
It does seem that you haven't installed your plugins. Download them and as root: cp /path/to/dowload/dir/essential-20061022.tar.bz2 /usr/lib/. cd /usr/lib rm -f essential-20061022.tar.bz2 mv essential-20061022/ win32 #or whatevername you want ls -lZ win32 #or whatevername you want It probably won

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/10/12 09:29, Matthew J. Roth wrote: Bob, I get [using the opendns name servers again]: [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @8.8.8.8 +short www.newegg.com 208.91.197.27 [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @208.67.220.220 +short www.newegg.com 208.91.197.27 [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @12.189.32.61 +short www.newegg.

Re: no audio on kernel-3.6.1-1.fc17.x86_64

2012-10-19 Thread Kevin Martin
On 10/19/12 09:07, Ian Malone wrote: > On 19 October 2012 07:24, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> On 10/18/2012 11:07 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >>> >>> I've got working audio now on 3.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64, but I'm not sure what >>> I did to fix it. >> >> >> And then a few minutes later it quit working. >> >

Xine-Check question

2012-10-19 Thread JD
I have the following xine packages installed: xine-lib-extras-freeworld-1.1.21-3.fc16.i686 xine-ui-skins-0.99.7-2.fc16.noarch xine-lib-extras-1.1.21-2.fc16.1.i686 xine-lib-1.1.21-2.fc16.1.i686 xine-ui-aaxine-0.99.7-2.fc16.i686 oxine-0.7.1-11.fc16.i686 gxine-0.5.907-2.fc16.i686 xine-ui-0.99.7-2.fc1

Re: no audio on kernel-3.6.1-1.fc17.x86_64

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 October 2012 07:24, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 10/18/2012 11:07 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> I've got working audio now on 3.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64, but I'm not sure what >> I did to fix it. > > > And then a few minutes later it quit working. > You may have better luck on the alsa list https:

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Bob, > I get [using the opendns name servers again]: > > [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @8.8.8.8 +short www.newegg.com > 208.91.197.27 > [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @208.67.220.220 +short www.newegg.com > 208.91.197.27 > [bobg@box9 ~]$ dig @12.189.32.61 +short www.newegg.com > 208.91.197.27 The @IP tells

Re: Contact list for KDE user?

2012-10-19 Thread Timothy Murphy
Lailah wrote: >> I did look at other PIM applications; >> but KAddressBook/Kontact (they seem to be the same in this context) >> appeared to be the only ones that dealt with "contacts" in the usual >> sense. >> >> I wasn't quite clear if you were suggesting thunderbird and evolution >> as alterna

Laptop doesn't know which display to use when docked.

2012-10-19 Thread Terry Polzin
I am running xfce on F17 completely patched and current. My laptop is a HP probook 6460b. When I boot it docked the grub screen appears on the external display. When the boot has completed the background screen is displayed on the external display. I get no login prompt on the external display.