Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > No, you most certainly do. Everyone who installs Fedora ends up > encrypting something. I'll bet that all your passwords in /etc/shadow > are encrypted, for example. Because that's the kind of things > libgcrypt.so.1 is responsible for. I sit correc

[SOLVED]: Re: question regarding f16 under various DEs

2011-11-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/26/2011 11:27 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell > wrote: >> If the "one install DVD" has all of the DEs (gnome, kde, xfce, and >> lxde), how does one tell the installation process which one to use? This >> may be pure newbie on my part, but

Re: question regarding f16 under various DEs

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > If the "one install DVD" has all of the DEs (gnome, kde, xfce, and > lxde), how does one tell the installation process which one to use? This > may be pure newbie on my part, but when I do an install I have never > seen an option to pick

Re: question regarding f16 under various DEs

2011-11-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/26/2011 11:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Paul Allen Newell > wrote: >> Fedora-list: >> >> Since fc5, I have always downloaded an iso of the full image of Fedora >> w/ Gnome. Given the emails on f15 and now f16, I am interested in >> looking at alternat

Re: question regarding f16 under various DEs

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Fedora-list: > > Since fc5, I have always downloaded an iso of the full image of Fedora > w/ Gnome. Given the emails on f15 and now f16, I am interested in > looking at alternatives to Gnome. After much clicking through the Fedora > site

question regarding f16 under various DEs

2011-11-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Fedora-list: Since fc5, I have always downloaded an iso of the full image of Fedora w/ Gnome. Given the emails on f15 and now f16, I am interested in looking at alternatives to Gnome. After much clicking through the Fedora site, it appears to me that only f16 w/ Gnome has a direct download DVD,

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting. You wouldn't be able to boot anything. No > matter which kernel you boot, you're running the same userspace, and the > same set

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting The specific message is that /sbin/sulogin failed because it coulden't find libcrypt.so.1. I touched /forcefsck and rebooted into the F16 kernel a

Re: beesu not working in Fedora 16

2011-11-26 Thread Vishnupradeep
Nothing. But when used in terminal it asked for password inside terminal. NO GUI. Linux Blog: http://xtreme-linux.blogspot.com/ Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/ My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/ On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/26/2011 07:

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting. You wouldn't be able to boot anything. No > matter which kernel you boot, you're running the same userspace, and the > same set of userspace librari

Re: beesu not working in Fedora 16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 07:09 PM, Vishnupradeep wrote: > i used beesu in f15 without any problem.But it is not working in f16 > what should i do. Is there any alternative programs. Lord knows F16 isn't exactly working as well as I'd like it, but beesu works fine for me. What happens when you try to use it

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: Recently I upgraded my laptop to F16 using preupgrade. This morning, at a convention, I did a system update that included (I thought) a new kernel. The next time I booted, the system hung, with no output. I had to power-cycle to try again, this time getting error messages: it

beesu not working in Fedora 16

2011-11-26 Thread Vishnupradeep
i used beesu in f15 without any problem.But it is not working in f16 what should i do. Is there any alternative programs. Linux Blog: http://xtreme-linux.blogspot.com/ Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/ My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.

Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
Recently I upgraded my laptop to F16 using preupgrade. This morning, at a convention, I did a system update that included (I thought) a new kernel. The next time I booted, the system hung, with no output. I had to power-cycle to try again, this time getting error messages: it couldn't find l

Re: wlan0 Woes Solved

2011-11-26 Thread Mike Dwiggins
On 11/26/2011 7:01 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: >> Anyone know of a USB adapter for either 802.11 G or N supported under >> fc14 X86_64. > The kernel wireless team maintains a list of USB wireless adapters > they know work fine with Linux: >

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:26 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > I wrote up this little script that uses it to read a bunch at once > using the same method: Sorry, I typoed that one. Try https://gist.github.com/1396830 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >        I was able to display some of the data in a new Thunderbird >        account's address book. There are about 2000 "cards," about 21 >        megs of data! The T-bird address book only displays some of the >        data, I guess just in c

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? You can use any text editor to look at the contents, it's just a list of fields and data, in a form style. Not exactly like this, but it's the idea behind the technique: name: Ti

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > some years later i will laugh about all the peopole who are thinking keyboard > and > mouse has no future because all this kids will sooner or later (hopefully) get > a job and realize what working with a computer means It occurs to me that the peopl

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 12:18 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > This*is* the bleeding edge. Sometimes it's dangerously sharp, but it > always produces better and better code. No it doesn't. Sometimes it turns out that an idea that sounded good Just Doesn't Work. That's part of what Fedora is for: finding out

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/11/11 20:00, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Bob Goodwin > wrote: >> On 26/11/11 19:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: Is there a Linux application that will displ

Re: wlan0 Woes

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > Anyone know of a USB adapter for either 802.11 G or N supported under > fc14 X86_64. The kernel wireless team maintains a list of USB wireless adapters they know work fine with Linux: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB -T.C. --

wlan0 Woes

2011-11-26 Thread Mike Dwiggins
Anyone know of a USB adapter for either 802.11 G or N supported under fc14 X86_64. That would seem to be the only way to fix my wife's ongoing problems. Thanks Mike D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 26/11/11 19:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? >> Depends what you mean by "display". Most of the mail clients can import >>

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/11/11 19:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? > Depends what you mean by "display". Most of the mail clients can import > VCF files as contact records. > > poc > I'm not s

Re: wither pnmtops and pnmcrop

2011-11-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 25Nov2011 20:28, Michael Hennebry wrote: > | Unable to figure out how to do what I wanted in gimp, > | I went looking for pnmcrop. > | I had gimp out because I hadn't been able to find pnmtops. > | Cropping stumped me, so I went looking again. > |

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? Depends what you mean by "display". Most of the mail clients can import VCF files as contact records. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: .vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 19:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? I am under the impression that the .vcf format is for transfer and most address book programs should be able to import them (thereby creating a new entry in your address book).

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 14:18 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > I'd dispute that. I've used KDE 4 since it came out and never had > major > > problems with it (other than completely missing the point of the > whole > > Activities stuff, easily solved by ignoring it). The chest-beating > about > > the

.vcf files -

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
Is there a Linux application that will display a .vcf file? Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: F15: how to set clamd service?

2011-11-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:55:37 -0500, SD (sean) wrote: > I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly, > that seems to work. > > Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick > something in rc.local? > > rpm -qa | grep clam | sort > clamav-0.97.3-1500.fc1

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 00:43, schrieb Mikkel L. Ellertson: > On 11/26/2011 05:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >>> Simple: Packages don't rebuilt unless there is a necessity to do so >> >> and what about the mass-rebuilds usually happening in devel-cycle >> after upgrades of GCC, GLIBC etc.? >> >> 99% o

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 11/26/2011 05:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > >> Simple: Packages don't rebuilt unless there is a necessity to do so > > and what about the mass-rebuilds usually happening in devel-cycle > after upgrades of GCC, GLIBC etc.? > > 99% of all packages are rebuilt there > what is with the one pe

Re: F15: how to set clamd service?

2011-11-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/26/2011 2:55 PM, sean darcy wrote: > I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly, > that seems to work. > > Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick > something in rc.local? > > rpm -qa | grep clam | sort > clamav-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686 > clamav-d

Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Andre Robatino
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > On 11/27/2011 03:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Try this instead: > > > > rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs > > dvd+rw-tools-7.1-5.fc14.x86_64 > > > > (this is on F15 - for some reason I have never understoon - some > > packages dont get rebu

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 23:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > On 11/27/2011 03:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Try this instead: >> >> rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs >> dvd+rw-tools-7.1-5.fc14.x86_64 >> >> (this is on F15 - for some reason I have never understoon - some >> packages dont get reb

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 09:21 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my > > printseerver. (F16) > > > > Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the > > services th

what's the state of qemu-system-ppc virtualization in fedora 16?

2011-11-26 Thread Robert P. J. Day
what little i know of PPC virtualization suggests that qemu-system-ppc is still a work in progress, at least on ubuntu which is what's running on one of my systems. so i'd like to switch back to fedora for what will be an extended adventure in virtualization. as a specific example, i have a

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Roger
/Isn't it time to change the subject line Roger / On 11/26/2011 05:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/27/2011 03:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Try this instead: rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs dvd+rw-tools-7.1-5.fc14.x86_64 (this is on F15 - for some reason I have never unde

F15: how to set clamd service?

2011-11-26 Thread sean darcy
I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly, that seems to work. Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick something in rc.local? rpm -qa | grep clam | sort clamav-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686 clamav-data-0.97.3-1500.fc15.noarch clamav-filesystem-0.97.3-15

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/26/2011 05:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/27/2011 03:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Try this instead: >> >> rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs >> dvd+rw-tools-7.1-5.fc14.x86_64 >> >> (this is on F15 - for some reason I have never understoon - some >> packages dont get rebu

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:27:03 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > it is: systemctl restart cups .service that I have to run to get cups to > work. > > Where is the init file for cups.service? I haven't had problems with cups, but I've certainly had problems with other services that use the network not f

Re: Putting Gnome on a diet --- Aaarrrghghg

2011-11-26 Thread Ian Malone
On 26 November 2011 19:30, Beartooth wrote: > On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:31:49 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> Just install fedorautils. >> I'll give you a good gui way of doing it, along with other stuff: >> http://fedorautils.sourceforge.net/ >> >> "Optimise boot" section. > >        I (Beartooth, n

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 03:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Try this instead: > > rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs > dvd+rw-tools-7.1-5.fc14.x86_64 > > (this is on F15 - for some reason I have never understoon - some > packages dont get rebuilt and/or repackages ... ) Simple: Packages don't

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 11:54 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:36:50 -0600 > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my > > printseerver. (F16) > > > > Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the > > services

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/26/2011 05:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > No idea, > Where possible I stick to gui. > But out of curiosity: > ~$ rpm -q wodim growisofs > wodim-1.1.11-8.fc16.x86_64 > package growisofs is not installed > > > Try this instead: rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs dvd+rw-tools-7.

Re: Nvidia driver installation problems

2011-11-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 06:47 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: > Forgot to say that I have a Who what where??? You've posted a NEW message that's totally disconnected from whatever previous thread you're adding to, so it's "lost information." If you want to add information to some previous message,

Re: Putting Gnome on a diet --- Aaarrrghghg

2011-11-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/11/11 19:30, Beartooth wrote: > > I (Beartooth, not the OP) did that, and a bunch of other stuff, > too; and rebooted. Now suddenly my monitor is all crudded up worse than > anything I've ever seen from the dregs of Redmond. > > *Something* (Accursed be its name!)that fedorautils

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) Antonio Olivares wrote: > I hear you :) I am with you, but sadly the desktop > creators/maintainers/coders are going with it :( > I even saw a guy on TV stating that there was no need for keyboards or mice > anymore Yea, I can't wait for the release

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 22:58, schrieb Antonio Olivares: >> some developers are thinking "it's new, it's cool, the >> others do not bother me" >> well, they can do so >> >> but this will nothing change in the fact that POWER-USERS >> will always use >> a classical desktop, that most computers in profession

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/11/11 18:23, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/26/2011 12:13 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >>> >> >> I never had a problem burning DVD(-RW)+- >> with xfburn\Xfce in F14\15\16. >> > > Curious - does xfburn use wodim or growisofs? No idea, Where possible I stick to gui. But out of curiosity: ~$

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > Some folks saw this coming!  Turns out that now > other desktops are following suit to TabletLand, > > even windows 8 :(  The traditional desktop is > apparently dying :( > > and this is simply dumb > > the count of smartphones/tablets may become higher > but his is only a number which does

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 26 November 2011 13:02:03 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Are you kidding? You'd have thought Fedora was eating > > people's babies - without salt - the way this list blew up when > > KDE4 came out in Fedora. > > +1 > > Some folks saw this coming! Turns out that now other desktops are fo

Re: Fedora 15 as WLAN-AP

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 22:23, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 18:08:43 +0100, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> if someone can call a buyable product which is out of the box >> supported from current fedora-kernels and supports G/N because >> mit printer in the kitchen supports only G wit

Re: Display resolution problems

2011-11-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 26 November 2011 15:41:08 John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu November 24 2011 6:07:46 PM Craig White wrote: > > > > no reason to ask essentially the same question just 2 hours after the > > last time you asked and a most reasonable suggestion was made. > > Craigare you sure I asked

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 22:02, schrieb Antonio Olivares: > Some folks saw this coming! Turns out that now other desktops are following > suit to TabletLand, > even windows 8 :( The traditional desktop is apparently dying :( and this is simply dumb the count of smartphones/tablets may become higher b

Re: Fedora 15 as WLAN-AP

2011-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 18:08:43 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > if someone can call a buyable product which is out of the box > supported from current fedora-kernels and supports G/N because > mit printer in the kitchen supports only G with WPA there will > be a way to buy this thing somewhere

Fedora 13 workspace switcher - no "Number of workspaces" option

2011-11-26 Thread Darlene Wallach
In the preferences for workspace switcher there is no option for choosing the number of workspaces. yum list *switch* and yum list *workspace* doesn't give a workspace switcher. Does anyone know what I should be looking for or what Gnome applet I should install? I have an even older Fedora 9 on m

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> As well, KDE's track record on this is not exactly > stellar.  KDE4 was > >> basically unusable up until 4.3 or so. > > > > I'd dispute that. I've used KDE 4 since it came out > and never had major > > problems with it (other than completely missing the > point of the whole > > Activities stu

Re: Display resolution problems

2011-11-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu November 24 2011 6:07:46 PM Craig White wrote: > > no reason to ask essentially the same question just 2 hours after the > last time you asked and a most reasonable suggestion was made. > Craigare you sure I asked in THIS list? If so, I apologize. I'm having some issues with the n

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/25/2011 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 13:30 -0500, Matt Rose wrote: >> As well, KDE's track record on this is not exactly stellar. KDE4 was >> basically unusable up until 4.3 or so. > > I'd dispute that. I've used

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 01:21 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I am not questioning legality or licensing issues here. I was just wondering > how EGOS get in the way of free sofware and Free and Open Source Software! Answer: It doesn't in this case. Shilling is a notoriously abrasive personality but

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 01:25 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > My argument was based on the fact that you stated > > > It is the same position held by all other major distributions as well. > > > and Slackware is a major distribution and it does not share the same > position. Sure and I don't share the

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > I also use it and it comes with the original, there's > a slackbuild from Patrick V..  So others like source > based distros also have it.  Nobody has sued > them.  > > One more thing.  Source base distributions don't have > the same legal > liabilities as binary distributions for various lic

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> I've always had the suspicion that the real > reason > >> redhat won't distribute the original tools is the > >> incredibly abrasive personality of the author > >> (on display in this bugzilla and his web site > :-). > >> > > Here we go again! :)  Red Hat won't distribute > the original, Fedor

Re: Putting Gnome on a diet --- Aaarrrghghg

2011-11-26 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:31:49 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > Just install fedorautils. > I'll give you a good gui way of doing it, along with other stuff: > http://fedorautils.sourceforge.net/ > > "Optimise boot" section. I (Beartooth, not the OP) did that, and a bunch of other stuff, too;

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 12:45 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I also use it and it comes with the original, there's a slackbuild from > Patrick V.. So others like source based distros also have it. Nobody has > sued them. One more thing. Source base distributions don't have the same legal liabilitie

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 12:45 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > It has a licensing issue? I thought it was included because the original was > the one that had the issue? or did you make a mistake here? Yep. Just a typo > Slackware is a major distribution. It includes original cdrtools :) > > http:/

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> You have zero basis for such assumptions and even if that > is the case, > licensing conflicts will always triumph code quality > consideration since > if a code cannot be included, there is no point in talking > about how > stable or buggy it is.  > It is Fedora's legal position > that cdrkit

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 12:37 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Do the bug reports count? Yes but noone here is talking about specific bugs. They are making wrong and very broad claims which are clearly misleading and incorrect and those needs to be refuted. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 12:27 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> I've always had the suspicion that the real reason >> redhat won't distribute the original tools is the >> incredibly abrasive personality of the author >> (on display in this bugzilla and his web site :-). >> > Here we go again! :) Red Hat won't

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > Abrasive personality or not though, he is correct > > that the forked tools are so bug ridden as to be > > useless. They can write CDs - that's it. Any attempt > > to write DVDs produces an infinite supply of > > coasters, yet they continue to claim the tools > > work on DVDs and blu-rays. > >

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
> I've always had the suspicion that the real reason > redhat won't distribute the original tools is the > incredibly abrasive personality of the author > (on display in this bugzilla and his web site :-). > Here we go again! :) Red Hat won't distribute the original, Fedora is NOT Red Hat, but Re

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2011 10:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Abrasive personality or not though, he is correct > that the forked tools are so bug ridden as to be > useless. They can write CDs - that's it. Any attempt > to write DVDs produces an infinite supply of > coasters, yet they continue to claim the tools >

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2011 09:34 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > This is why Debian, Fedora and others apparently decided to go with the fork > since they could not agree with Mr. Schilling. It is sad but true :( > But then again, I don't think very much of the people who fork the code as > well, since they

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/26/2011 12:13 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> > > I never had a problem burning DVD(-RW)+- > with xfburn\Xfce in F14\15\16. > Curious - does xfburn use wodim or growisofs? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Brian Millett
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:36:50 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my > printseerver. (F16) > > Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the > services that appears in the printout. However, systemd says the > cups.service

Re: After I sent a private message to the WOT forum, my screen switched to this page..?

2011-11-26 Thread Mike Wright
On 11/25/2011 11:01 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: > > After I sent a private message to the WOT forum, my screen switched to > this page.. > Please tell, What is this page all about..? > > > > > { "ok": 1, "data": "\u003cdiv class=\"wot-comment-list\"\u003e\u003cdiv > class=\"comment-wra

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/11/11 16:55, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Abrasive personality or not though, he is correct > that the forked tools are so bug ridden as to be > useless. They can write CDs - that's it. Any attempt > to write DVDs produces an infinite supply of > coasters, yet they continue to claim the tools > wo

Re: Fedora 15 as WLAN-AP

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 17:44, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:25:16 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> hi >> >> does anybody know what hardware and configuraion-steps are needed to get >> a fedora-pc working as WLAN access-point with WPA/WPA2 > > Good luck - you'll need it :-). thank you :-

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:38:44 -0800 (PST) Antonio Olivares wrote: > Also this > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507108 I've always had the suspicion that the real reason redhat won't distribute the original tools is the incredibly abrasive personality of the author (on display in t

Re: Fedora 15 as WLAN-AP

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:25:16 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > hi > > does anybody know what hardware and configuraion-steps are needed to get > a fedora-pc working as WLAN access-point with WPA/WPA2 Good luck - you'll need it :-). http://linuxwireless.org/ has some tables of devices that have AP su

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 11/26/11, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > From: Frantisek Hanzlik > Subject: Re: Fedora - time to blink > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Date: Saturday, November 26, 2011, 2:24 AM > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 22:58 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik > wrote: > > >

Re: What is the capacity of a BD-R disk really?

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:09:25 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > Using command-line tools, can you actually create an ISO of size <= 25 GB > which > can't be burned to your media? I haven't tried creating an ISO file because it takes so long to do that then just as long to burn it, but I may go

Fedora 15 as WLAN-AP

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
hi does anybody know what hardware and configuraion-steps are needed to get a fedora-pc working as WLAN access-point with WPA/WPA2 google shows me a lot of half-baken instructions which seems to be mostly outdated for 2.6.41 / 3.0.x or missing wpa/ssid completly since i think a bridge-script is n

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/26/2011 10:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my > printseerver. (F16) > > Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the > services that appears in the printout. However, systemd says the > cups.service is enabled. >

Re: Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my > printseerver. (F16) > > Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the > services that appears in the printout. However, systemd says the > cups.service is e

What is the capacity of a BD-R disk really?

2011-11-26 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:15:29 + (UTC) > Andre Robatino wrote: > > > so > > if the container says "25 GB", that means 25*1000^3 bytes > > Yea, that much I knew, but the best info I've found so > far is here: > > http://www.hughsnews.ca/faqs/authoritative-b

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 11/26/11, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: Re: Fedora - time to blink > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Date: Saturday, November 26, 2011, 3:06 AM > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 22:58 +0100, > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > > in each version of Fedora for several recent years I >

Re: What is the capacity of a BD-R disk really?

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:15:29 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > so > if the container says "25 GB", that means 25*1000^3 bytes Yea, that much I knew, but the best info I've found so far is here: http://www.hughsnews.ca/faqs/authoritative-blu-ray-disc-bd-faq/9-disc-capacity#9.2 and even it gets

Suddenly cups does not run on boot

2011-11-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
Suddenly cups is not stared on boot on the machine that is my printseerver. (F16) Now when I run systems-analyze blame cups.service is not one of the services that appears in the printout. However, systemd says the cups.service is enabled. If I restart the service things work again. Where can I

f16 netinst from fedora 16 beta disc?

2011-11-26 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, Does anyone know if using a Fedora 16 beta netinstall disc will get me to Fedora 16 release version directly? I've got one from previously upgrading a system to F16 beta and want to know if I can save burning a new disc to upgrade another machine. Thanks -- imalone -- users mailing list use

What is the capacity of a BD-R disk really?

2011-11-26 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > So, does anyone have any pointers to information on the > actual capacity of BD-R disks? None of the tools on fedora > seem to agree, and none of them appear to be correct > either . (And web searches are remarkably fruitless > on this topic). > > Is BD-R back to

What is the capacity of a BD-R disk really?

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
I thought I would test my blu-ray writer by backing up a bunch of big files to a BD-R. I used k3b which imagines there is 25GB of available space, so I added files till I was about to overflow that. Then I insert a blank BD-R disk (and hit bugzilla 742719), but I go ahead and tell it to burn, and

Re: Fc15 writing an iso on a dvd with k3b - Unable to mount DVD-R

2011-11-26 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
26.11.2011 5:32, Gregory P. Ennis kirjoitti: > lshw lists the following : > *-cdrom > description: DVD reader > product: CDRWDVD CRX850E > ... > capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd Your drive is a CD-RW/DVD device, it can't write

Nvidia driver installation problems

2011-11-26 Thread Lawrence Graves
Forgot to say that I have a Dell 9400 Inspiron with a FX2500m video card running Fedora 16/64-bit. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Fc15 writing an iso on a dvd with k3b - Unable to mount DVD-R

2011-11-26 Thread Markku Kolkka
26.11.2011 5:32, Gregory P. Ennis kirjoitti: > lshw lists the following : > *-cdrom > description: DVD reader > product: CDRWDVD CRX850E > ... > capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd Your drive is a CD-RW/DVD device, it can't write o

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 22:58 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > in each version of Fedora for several recent years I had to replace > cripled and unmaintained wodim with original cdrtools, because > otherwise I won't able burn CD/DVD media. I haven't had to do that. I've burnt many CDs and DVDs wit

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.11.2011 05:03, schrieb Antonio Olivares: > The GPL preamble (see also Urheberrecht §14 below) disallows modifications in > case they are > suitable to affect the original author's reputation. As Debian installs > symlinks with the > original program names and as many people still believ

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-26 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 22:58 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> License restrictions are one thing, but IMO Fedora did mistakes in >> free SW preference too - e.g. in each version of Fedora for several >> recent years I had to replace cripled and unmaintained wodim with >> or

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