Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-23 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 06:16 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.09.2011 02:21, schrieb Craig White: > > > People who are getting worked up about the current state of GNOME 3 are > > just being stupid... they have other DM's to choose from > > this is a dumb argumentation for several reasons >

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-23 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 06:28 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Craig White: > > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:56 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> You're right, as far as you go, but that's not all there is to it. > >> Unless the developers are only interested in creating something

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Roger
> How are Skype users addressed? I suppose I am OK if I know their > telephone number. Skype, for me on Unbuntu and Fedora took about a few seconds to install. Read the skype instructions for how to use. To use, you need the skype addresses of the people you wish to contact, from memory there are

Re: selinux is a pain

2011-09-23 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Martín Marqués wrote: > I reinstalled (better hardware) a server and had selinux enabled (was > disabled before), and I starting to see why so many people don't use > selinux. > > My question is, how many people are using selinux? SELinux is a mighty thing, but it's way too complex. It's mi

Re: How to install Firefox 4

2011-09-23 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/20/2011 11:02 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 20.09.2011 16:58, schrieb Vinny Onelli: >> Thank you Hiisi, for the prompt response. I executed the >> instruction you give me, the fallows is the result >> >> [Vinny@Lab2 ~]$ su -c "yum --enabler

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-23 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them > free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers > have no responsibility to listen to user's compl

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 16:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > > computer. I recently looked at Google

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 13:19 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > > Is the Google chat code native or is in running under WINE? And, if so, > > do they have a native 64-bit version yet rather than requiring 32-bit > > libraries? > > Native Linux 64-bit binaries are availabl

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to install

Re: [389-users] Question on certificate storage

2011-09-23 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/23/2011 03:04 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 09/23/2011 02:58 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: >> On 09/23/2011 02:53 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 09/23/2011 01:44 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 09/23/2011 01:24 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Does it matter that they aren't > showing

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 13:10 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:43:33AM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to ins

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 10:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to install and use (at least

Re: [389-users] Question on certificate storage

2011-09-23 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/23/2011 01:24 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I'm trying to setup MMR with another office site. We're trying to connect > over SSL, but my server gives the error: > > [23/Sep/2011:12:00:56 -0600] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send bind > request for id [cn=Replication Manager,cn=config] me

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not us

[389-users] Question on certificate storage

2011-09-23 Thread Orion Poplawski
I'm trying to setup MMR with another office site. We're trying to connect over SSL, but my server gives the error: [23/Sep/2011:12:00:56 -0600] slapi_ldap_bind - Error: could not send bind request for id [cn=Replication Manager,cn=config] mech [SIMPLE]: error 81 (Can't contact LDAP server) -81

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 11:31 AM, Weather wrote: > Sounds like a very 2010 thing to do... I think we now only have voip for > customer helpdesk and the switchboard operators. The rest are only on cell > phone. The price war between cell phone operators has made it the best > solution for us. I found that

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Weather
Joe Zeff > >And then, of course, there's the most wonderful thing about converting >your whole office to VOIP: nobody can call the sysadmin to complain >that >the LAN's down. Sounds like a very 2010 thing to do... I think we now only have voip for customer helpdesk and the switchboard opera

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > Is the Google chat code native or is in running under WINE? And, if so, > do they have a native 64-bit version yet rather than requiring 32-bit > libraries? Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available. $ rpm -q google-talkplugin google-talkplugin-2.3.2.0-1.x86_64 $ file /

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 08:05 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > The ability to talk to Skype users. Until there's a universal bridge, > you'll need to use the system that the people on the other side want to use. This isn't the first time that's happened. In the early days of the telephone you could only talk to

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 07:58 AM, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > * Call quality - Skype's call quality is somewhat better than Google's > VoIP offerings in my experience. But, if Google's quality meets your > requirements, then by all means use it :). And then, of course, there's the most wonderful thing about

Re: Minor update question

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/21/2011 11:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > please try "yum update" and post output, witout exactly outputs > everybody must guess waht you mean, anyways "ntfsprogs" gets > some "replaces" updates the last time what yum would show in > a clean way Whatever makes you think this would do any good

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:43:33AM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by

Re: Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Fulko Hew
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Martin Airs wrote: > On Friday 23 Sep 2011 11:11:19 Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > The ability to call POTS almost anywhere in the world. > > You can do that now with google chat :) > Thanks, I (happily) stand corrected! I'll now have to install their/the library, and

Re: Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Airs
On Friday 23 Sep 2011 11:11:19 Fulko Hew wrote: > > The ability to call POTS almost anywhere in the world. You can do that now with google chat :) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Fulko Hew
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not usi

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not using Skype?

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not using Skype?

Re: Minor update question

2011-09-23 Thread JB
Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes: > ... > P.S.: the peopole who decided to moderate my mails to the list > should consider revert this or push them a little faster instead > of days and weeks later or silently drop them > > normally a moderated list anserwers instantly that it is moderated >

GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). What am I missing by not using Skype? -- ===

Re: CentOS-6 by PXEboot?

2011-09-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
Digimer wrote: > On 09/22/2011 07:03 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Has anyone succeeded in installing CentOS-6.0 by PXEboot. >> If so, would you say how you did it, please. >> I tried, but gave up in the end and used a USB stick instead. >> But I'd be very interested to know how to do it, for the f

Re: Update error (Test Transaction): glibc

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
there must been have gone something terrible wrong before because normally the dupes of the x86_64 must not exist and with a regular update the i686 must have the same version as the x86_64, sounds like a interrupted upgrade did you try "yum-complete-transaction" or "package-cleanup --cleandupes"?

Re: Minor update question

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2011 20:31, schrieb Joe Zeff: > I just started an update of Fedora 14 by yumex, and it listed ntfsprogs > 2011.4.12-5.fc14 twice. Both are from updates and are the same size. > I'm sure this is harmless, but does anybody know what's going on? please try "yum update" and post output,

Re: How to install Firefox 4

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2011 16:58, schrieb Vinny Onelli: > Thank you Hiisi, for the prompt response. I executed the instruction you > give me, the fallows is the result > > [Vinny@Lab2 ~]$ su -c "yum --enablerepo=remi update firefox" > Password: > Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > Add

Re: DHCP or fixed IPs for servers ????

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2011 03:49, schrieb Stefan Held: > You can setup on an Windows Workstation an DHCP Server? What Version > would that be? ;) every version or are you one of the people which believe software which is not included in the os is from the dark side - so what will you tell us with this usele

Re: How to install Firefox 4

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.09.2011 17:02, schrieb Vinny Onelli: > hello, > I downloaded Firefox 4 but I couldn't fine instructions to how to > install it. I extract the files then double click on file Firefox to > run, but it didn't not installed, the icon disappeared left a gray > square in place. If I move the Fire

Re: How to permanently delete root CAs from mozilla products?

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.09.2011 11:56, schrieb David: > I do not have a "DigiNotar" certificate at all. But then I am not using > Fedora 14 or Ubuntu 10.04 either. So it still sounds, to me, that your > complaint is with > > the Firefox version in Fedora 14. The latest one that I can see is FF > 3.6.20 firefox 3.

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.09.2011 03:03, schrieb Craig White: > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:56 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> You're right, as far as you go, but that's not all there is to it. >> Unless the developers are only interested in creating something for >> themselves, they need to take the opinions of the end us

Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2

2011-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.09.2011 02:21, schrieb Craig White: > People who are getting worked up about the current state of GNOME 3 are > just being stupid... they have other DM's to choose from this is a dumb argumentation for several reasons first of all most people have work to do and not look all the time whi

Re: Update error (Test Transaction): glibc

2011-09-23 Thread Christoph A.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/23/2011 02:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Oh no, you've messed up your installation further. ;) I almost thought so. Since it is a quite new VM I'll just setup a new one instead of trying to fix this. Thank you for your time! -BEGIN

Re: Update error (Test Transaction): glibc

2011-09-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:57:31 +0200, CA (Christoph) wrote: > >> Try to erase the -2 version of glibc.x86_64: > >> rpm --justdb -e --noscripts glibc-2.13-2.x86_64 > > > > rpm --justdb -e --noscripts glibc-2.13-2.x86_64 > > error: Failed dependencies: > > glibc = 2.13-2 is needed by (installed)

Re: Update error (Test Transaction): glibc

2011-09-23 Thread Christoph A.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/23/2011 11:51 AM, Christoph A. wrote: > On 09/22/2011 06:22 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> How have you managed to install those duplicates? >> Perhaps you've interrupted an update? > > that might be the case but I can't confirm it for sure. >

Re: Update error (Test Transaction): glibc

2011-09-23 Thread Christoph A.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/22/2011 06:22 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > How have you managed to install those duplicates? > Perhaps you've interrupted an update? that might be the case but I can't confirm it for sure. > Is there a message about > running yum-complete-tr