Re: Recent or soon to appear Struts 2 books

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Mawata
On 10/26/2010 4:03 PM, Dave Newton wrote: I know of nothing currently in progress, except for my nascent Inside Struts 2 (IS2) which I don't expect to see before early Spring. Dave On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Chris Mawata wrote: Hi y'all, I am looking for an answer to the question

Re: Recent or soon to appear Struts 2 books

2010-10-26 Thread Dave Newton
I know of nothing currently in progress, except for my nascent Inside Struts 2 (IS2) which I don't expect to see before early Spring. Dave On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Chris Mawata wrote: > Hi y'all, >      I am looking for an answer to the question "What do you recommend a > newbie read to

Recent or soon to appear Struts 2 books

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Mawata
Hi y'all, I am looking for an answer to the question "What do you recommend a newbie read to get started with Struts 2". Of course the canonical documentation is the Wiki but what do you have at your desk or are expecting to get? I have the Struts 2 in Action (Don Brown, Chad Michael Dav

[ANN] [S2] Three new Struts 2 books available for pre-order

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Husted
Ian Roughley's mini-book, "Starting with Struts 2", available in print and as a free PDF since May, is about to be joined by three new books about Struts 2. Coming in October is "Struts 2 Design and Programming: A Tutorial" by Budi Kurniawan. Budi's Struts 1 book

Re: Books & Reference Material

2007-05-02 Thread Ted Husted
I haven't read of his books yet myself, but I notice that Budi Kurniawan has a new Struts 1 book out now * http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0975212818/apachesoftwar-20/ and a Struts 2 book due out in the fall * http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0980331609/apacheso

Re: Books & Reference Material

2007-05-02 Thread Ted Husted
uires me to work with S1. I have been toying with S1, but now that I will be required to work with it in a more day-to-day capacity, I am trying to get some opinions on good books / reference material. To date I have been using online resources to slowly learn S1, but now that I need to ramp up a

RE: Books & Reference Materia

2007-05-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- Richard Kroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wondered if you were going to be on this list, > good to see you here! Musachy lives here; he's the man--working with him should be entertaining :) d. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail h

RE: Books & Reference Materia

2007-05-01 Thread Richard Kroll
> Go for Struts 2, don't worry about Struts 1 too much. I'm allowed to say > this because I know we will be working together and we will be rewriting > everything on top of S2 very soon :) > > musachy I wondered if you were going to be on this list, good to see you here! I'll start focusing my at

Re: Books & Reference Materia

2007-05-01 Thread Musachy Barroso
TECTED]> wrote: > I havent seen any Struts2 books out yet (anyone?) He specifically asked for S1 books. From: "Richard Kroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm moving into a position that requires me to work > with S1. _Programming Struts_ and Struts in Action was my go-to

Re: Books & Reference Material

2007-05-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I havent seen any Struts2 books out yet (anyone?) He specifically asked for S1 books. From: "Richard Kroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm moving into a position that requires me to work > with S1. _Programming Strut

Re: Books & Reference Material

2007-05-01 Thread Martin Gainty
Hi Rich- I havent seen any Struts2 books out yet (anyone?) As a way to slowly introduce yourself to MVC you may want to consider 'Struts in Action' HTH/ Martin This email message and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information intended only for the person(s) to

Books & Reference Material

2007-05-01 Thread Richard Kroll
Hello All, I'm moving into a position that requires me to work with S1. I have been toying with S1, but now that I will be required to work with it in a more day-to-day capacity, I am trying to get some opinions on good books / reference material. To date I have been using online resourc

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-05-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 1, 2007 11:43 am, Dave Newton wrote: > > He's probably talking about SiAv2. > Geez, you know your a geek when you see SiAv2 and > think it's an abbreviation for some sort of new > Aliens vs. Predator movie. :D > (of course, your an

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-05-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Tue, May 1, 2007 11:43 am, Dave Newton wrote: > He's probably talking about SiAv2. Geez, you know your a geek when you see SiAv2 and think it's an abbreviation for some sort of new Aliens vs. Predator movie. Frank (of course, your an even BIGGER geek if you think it might actually not suck e

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-05-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
No sir, Zathras says "not the one"! :) Frank (which I guess means you can surmise that not only will you not have to wait too long for S2 books, but you'll have choices to make too!) -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-05-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- Roger Varley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/04/07, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: >> I don't know what information I can or can't give >> out, so suffice it to say you won't be waiting too >> much longer for books specifically on S2... > Is this

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-05-01 Thread Roger Varley
On 27/04/07, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know what information I can or can't give out, so suffice it to say you won't be waiting too much longer for books specifically on S2... and no, before anyone asks, I'm not writing one :) Is this the

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Musachy Barroso
I agree with Ted. I read the book before jumping into S2. musachy On 4/27/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/27/07, maestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that everyone has had a good whip at it... > Is the book worth anything? Yes. -

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/27/07, maestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that everyone has had a good whip at it... Is the book worth anything? Yes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I don't know what information I can or can't give out, so suffice it to say you won't be waiting too much longer for books specifically on S2... and no, before anyone asks, I'm not writing one :) Frank -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnyt

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread robin bajaj
Friday, April 27, 2007 2:27:00 PM Subject: Re: [BEER] Re: Books I have recently begun the learning curve from Struts 1 to Struts 2, and since WebWork in Action is really the only game in town, it's definitely worth the read. There is a lot of package and library conversions that you have to do

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Chris Pratt
h eway he describes the whole thing, I think he meant it literaly, > even > > though he should have used the adjective instead (sadistic). It is > indeed > > very funny! > > A former coworker once accused open source developers of changing > stuff not so that it would work b

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Harring Figueiredo
they could sell more books! -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sincerely, Harring Figueiredo Sr. Software Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 94

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread maestro
e should have used the adjective instead (sadistic). It is indeed > very funny! A former coworker once accused open source developers of changing stuff not so that it would work better, but simply so they could sell more books! -- Wendy ---

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Wendy Smoak
stuff not so that it would work better, but simply so they could sell more books! -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Antonio Petrelli
We're all sadistic after all. At Tiles 2 we changed DTDs and tag libraries completely, not to mention the APIs. It's a real sadistic pleasure seeing developers in difficulties when trying to upgrade :-) Antonio 2007/4/27, Harring Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: By th eway he describes the whol

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Harring Figueiredo
By th eway he describes the whole thing, I think he meant it literaly, even though he should have used the adjective instead (sadistic). It is indeed very funny! hff On 4/27/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- maestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The sadist part to it, its the indus

Re: [BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread maestro
Oops... honestly, I had to polish up my original text... it was much more harsh. I had sent it off to fellow developers but decided to post it. I missed one ! But a good laugh is always good ;) On 4/27/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- maestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The sadi

[BEER] Re: Books

2007-04-27 Thread Dave Newton
--- maestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The sadist part to it, its the industry standard. That misspelling is *so* accurate in this case! :D I just lol'd out loud. d. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protectio

Books

2007-04-27 Thread maestro
Hi, I have been using Struts 1.x for some time now. I have been looking at JSF for the last couple of weeks. JSF is such a departure from Struts its simply depressing. I do understand that JSF is a component framework. Whereas Struts is an action framework. The biggest problem is that the web i

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-02 Thread Ian Roughley
wrote: --- Cecilia Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can anyone recommend any good books which will help me learn Struts 2. WebWork in Action (Manning Press). Last I heard there was an S2 book in the works but haven't heard anything about it since the fall, more or less.

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/1/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's exactly what I was talking about. I can not > follow the tutorial or the example if there's a page > missing or a piece of code that is missing. I haven't noticed any issues in the tutorial. Hopefully these

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's exactly what I was talking about. I can not > follow the tutorial or the example if there's a page > missing or a piece of code that is missing. I haven't noticed any issues in the tutorial. Hopefully these new snippet issues will be fixed ASAP. In the meant

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread mansour77
That's exactly what I was talking about. I can not follow the tutorial or the example if there's a page missing or a piece of code that is missing. Dave Newton wrote: --- Laurie Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] all worked fine. An error occurred: http://svn.apache.org/repos/

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread Dave Newton
--- Laurie Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] all worked fine. An error occurred: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/apps/showcase/src/main/java/org/apache/struts2/showcase/validation/QuizAction-validation.xml. The system administrator has been notified. Snippet issues, y

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread Laurie Harper
Which pages are you having trouble with? Starting from the main validation page: http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/validation.html I tried a random selection of links and all worked fine. L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any idea about who maintains the documentation. I am new to str

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-04-01 Thread mansour77
Do you have any idea about who maintains the documentation. I am new to struts, and started with Struts 2. The examples pages on the validation section are all broken. Whom should I contact for this? Ted Husted wrote: On 3/29/07, Cecilia Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do have some is

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-03-29 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/29/07, Cecilia Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do have some issues with the Wiki from time to time...I'll send you an email when they come up. The Wiki seems to have been written more as a reference for people who already understand how things work...it is often hard for me to figure

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-03-29 Thread Ted Husted
It's true that most of WebWork in Action applies. The package names changed, and we've added some features, but the fundamentals remain the same. From a technical perspective, Struts 2 is WebWork 3. * http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/BOOKS/ISBN-1932394532 Online,

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-03-29 Thread Cecilia Castillo
trial and error testing. I'm hoping the Webwork book will clarify things for me. Thanks, Cecilia At 08:31 AM 3/29/2007, you wrote: --- Cecilia Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend any good books which will help > me learn Struts 2. WebWork in Action (M

Re: can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-03-29 Thread Dave Newton
--- Cecilia Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend any good books which will help > me learn Struts 2. WebWork in Action (Manning Press). Last I heard there was an S2 book in the works but haven't heard anything about it since the fall, more or less. &

can anyone recommended books which will help me learn Struts 2

2007-03-29 Thread Cecilia Castillo
Can anyone recommend any good books which will help me learn Struts 2. If there are no books on Struts 2...are there any books on Struts which would be of value? I am new to both Struts and Struts 2 as well as tag libraries, JSP and JavaScript. I am not new to Java or JDBC. I have been

Re: Are There Struts 2 Books?

2006-11-30 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 11/30/06, Simon Chappell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Struts 1, a second edition of James Holmes' "Struts, The Complete > Reference" will be out soon. Do you know which version of "classic" will that cover? It's up to date for Struts 1.3.5. http://www.amazon.com/Struts-Complete-Refere

Re: Are There Struts 2 Books?

2006-11-30 Thread Simon Chappell
On 11/30/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/30/06, Caroline Jen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there books available on Struts 2? or any newer > versions of Struts? The WebWork in Action book is the only thing I'm aware of at the moment. For Struts

Re: Are There Struts 2 Books?

2006-11-30 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 11/30/06, Caroline Jen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there books available on Struts 2? or any newer versions of Struts? The WebWork in Action book is the only thing I'm aware of at the moment. For Struts 1, a second edition of James Holmes' "Struts, The Complete R

RE: Are There Struts 2 Books?

2006-11-30 Thread Dave Newton
From: Caroline Jen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Are there books available on Struts 2? WebWork in Action Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are There Struts 2 Books?

2006-11-30 Thread Caroline Jen
Are there books available on Struts 2? or any newer versions of Struts? Thanks for the information in advance. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yaho

RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-21 Thread bsimonin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 4/20/2006 7:30 AM To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: Books on JSF Buy both. The Core JSF book covers the HTMLDataTable and the DataTable Model much better than the JSF in Action book. But the Core JSF book

RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-20 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
I Like Core JSF as well, along with the O'Reilly book JavaServer Faces by Hans Bergsten (which I feel does a better job going over certain concepts). Both books describe working with JSF and Tiles, which I found useful. (For more information about working with JSF and Tiles, e.g., using a s

RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-20 Thread bsimonin
Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Books on JSF I have both "JSF in Action" and "Core JSF". If you are buying only one book I would recommend "JSF in Action". However, I do find both books helpful. Dick -Original Message- From: Chris Lo

RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-20 Thread Dick Starr
I have both "JSF in Action" and "Core JSF". If you are buying only one book I would recommend "JSF in Action". However, I do find both books helpful. Dick -Original Message- From: Chris Loschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:26

Re: Books on JSF

2006-04-20 Thread Ted Husted
If you already have a background in Struts and/or Swing, then consider "Mastering JavaServer Faces" by Bill Dundey, et al. It spends some time comparing the three, to help the reader gain a sense of perspective. * http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/BOOKS/Books+abo

Re: Books on JSF

2006-04-19 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 4/20/06, Chris Loschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to start learning more about JSF. I've had a recommendation for > _Core Java Server Faces_ -- do people here agree that would be a good choice? > Any other recommendations? Some other opnions: http://www.mail-archive.co

RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-19 Thread David G. Friedman
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:36 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Books on JSF On 4/20/06, Chris Loschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to start learning more about JSF. I've had a recommendation fo

Re: Books on JSF

2006-04-19 Thread Jason King
That and JSF in Action by Kito Mann (from Manning) are the best I've read. I haven't read Jonas Jacobi's book from Apress yet, but I have bought it. Chris Loschen wrote: Hi all, I'd like to start learning more about JSF. I've had a recommendation for _Core Java Server Faces_ -- do people here a

Re: Books on JSF

2006-04-19 Thread Niall Pemberton
I didn't like it as I found it really boring. Haven't read any other JSF books to compare it to though. Niall > Thanks! > > Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Books on JSF

2006-04-19 Thread Chris Loschen
Hi all, I'd like to start learning more about JSF. I've had a recommendation for _Core Java Server Faces_ -- do people here agree that would be a good choice? Any other recommendations? Thanks! Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [OT] Need information about books to buy

2006-04-10 Thread erikweber
-Original Message- >From: Ashish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 7, 2006 11:58 AM >To: user@struts.apache.org >Subject: [OT] Need information about books to buy > >Hi >I need to buy couple of books, 1 for AJAX, and 2 for >Webservices, >I know t

Re: [OT] Need information about books to buy

2006-04-07 Thread Larry Meadors
I recently picked up "Ajax Patterns" from APress, it was good, in spite of being written by a .net hack. ;-) Larry On 4/7/06, Ashish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > I need to buy couple of books, 1 for AJAX, and 2 for > Webservices, > I know the basics

[OT] Need information about books to buy

2006-04-07 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
Hi I need to buy couple of books, 1 for AJAX, and 2 for Webservices, I know the basics of Ajax and Webservices, and need to use them in real time application These are the onces i have seen, need input from people who have read them so can purchase them Ajax 1 Ajax Hacks, by Bruce W. Perry

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Nitesh Naveen
ogies, please visit http://www.cordiant.com _ -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] On 7

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread netsql
Andrew Tomaka wrote the following on 7/8/2005 2:29 PM: in the past few weeks, it's all gone downhill. A good percentage of threads are now off-topic; not off topic like discussing the pros and cons of using an IDE, but off topic like what an H1B is and personal thoughts on outsourcing. I'm

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Brandon Goodin
There are people who are taking things way too serious around here. They fall into two groups. #1 The easily offended #2 The lude and discourteous. What is funny is often they are one and the same. My comments have been very light hearted and not intended to offend. If folks take the lighter comme

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Brandon Goodin
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 07/08/2005 04:43 PM > Please respond to > "Struts Users Mailing List" > > > To > "Struts Users Mailing List" , "Andrew Tomaka" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc > > Subject > Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: S

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 7/8/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew, you must be new here. See, on Fridays (usually), we like to cut up > and have a little fun. I think I've donated enough blood on this list to > deserve a break every now and then. And perhaps its time to reign in the freedom to cut u

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread DGraham
And so, the circle is complete. :) - Dennis "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/08/2005 04:43 PM Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" To "Struts Users Mailing List" , "Andrew Tomaka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc S

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread James Mitchell
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] I was trying to avoid jumping in here, but I couldn't hold out. How about we all grow up and act like adu

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations...now spellings[OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Michael Taylor
Too bad it also matches almost every ISP's domain name... :-O Michael Taylor TXE Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brady Hegberg wrote: Google results: struts: 2,330,000 sturts: 7,470 sruts: 1,700 srtuts: 1,040 strutus:

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations...now spellings[OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Larry Meadors
...but a real bugger to google for - #? .net? Too bad M$ couldn't somehow work an & and a ? into the name... Hmm, C#&ASP.NET? Looks like a cartoon character swearing...or me trying to write code with vs.net. Larry PS: it is friday, right? On 7/8/05, Brady Hegberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations...now spellings[OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Brady Hegberg
Google results: struts: 2,330,000 sturts: 7,470 sruts: 1,700 srtuts: 1,040 strutus: 328 The one big advantage of .net: it's easy to spell. -Brady > Why don't we get back to the reason this list exists and the purpose > of Sturts: making our lives easier. > > ~ Andrew Tomaka --

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Rick Reumann
Andrew Tomaka wrote the following on 7/8/2005 2:29 PM: When I joined the Struts list in May, it was an invaluable resource. I was able to quickly learn the framework through the questions others were asking. But in the past few weeks, it's all gone downhill. A good percentage of threads are

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Goswami, Raj
Sorry, wrong posting. Not intended for this group. Thanks, -Original Message- From: Goswami, Raj Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; 'Andrew Tomaka' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] Rig

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Goswami, Raj
? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] I was trying to avoid jumping in here, but I couldn't hold out. How about we all grow up and act like adults? Never in my life have I seen such a childish display. I think Rick's "My mom can beat up your mom." made the same point I&#x

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Andrew Tomaka
I was trying to avoid jumping in here, but I couldn't hold out. How about we all grow up and act like adults? Never in my life have I seen such a childish display. I think Rick's "My mom can beat up your mom." made the same point I'm making here. And Yan, you may have given it a "hahaha +1," bu

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Yan Hu
--- Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yan Hu wrote the following on 7/8/2005 1:29 PM: > > > I respect good people(regardless of races) not an asshole like you. > > My mom can beat up your mom. > > -- > Rick Do you have a Mom? Come on man.. Be strong. I understand how tought life ca

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
> ROFL > > Oh ya! My mom can beat up your dad! Your dad beat up my mom! BTW, she wants a rematch. - Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Yan Hu
--- James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ROFL > > Oh ya! My mom can beat up your dad! hahaha +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread James Mitchell
: "Rick Reumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] Yan Hu wrote the following on 7/8/2005 1:29 PM: I respect good people(regardless of race

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Rick Reumann
Yan Hu wrote the following on 7/8/2005 1:29 PM: I respect good people(regardless of races) not an asshole like you. My mom can beat up your mom. -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread James Mitchell
: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Yan Hu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" ; "Martin Gainty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [

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2005-07-08 Thread Yan Hu
ileage may of course vary depending on your usage > > > habits.. > > > Viel Gluck, > > > M- > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Struts Users Mail

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Yan Hu
> Mr Yan: > > For most of us here this is not a game but a livelihood > If I go to China or India I understand that am a guest in that country and > aware that I must not abuse and or break the laws of the country.. Calling someone that makes fun of others an "idiot" definately does not break a

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Daniel Perry
bscure things in american laws/rules. (not that i'm saying british rules are any better) > -Original Message- > From: Simon Chappell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 July 2005 14:20 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Simon Chappell
EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 08 July 2005 13:49 > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations > > [OT] > > > > > > It's a type of temporary work visa in the US. > > > > http:/

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2005-07-08 Thread Daniel Perry
odel!!! Daniel. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Piker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 July 2005 13:49 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations > [OT] > > > It's a type of temporary wor

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2005-07-08 Thread Martin Gainty
frain from using this list to promote and or make excuses for your clearly inappropriate behavior. Martin- - Original Message - From: "Yan Hu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired wa

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2005-07-08 Thread Brandon Goodin
7; > > This is the MSRP ..Your mileage may of course vary depending on your usage > > habits.. > > Viel Gluck, > > M- > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List

RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-08 Thread Scott Piker
It's a type of temporary work visa in the US. http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/h1b.htm > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:33 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Fired???? wa

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2005-07-08 Thread Daniel Perry
Applogies for being english or maybe just naive, but what the hell is a H1B? Daniel. > -Original Message- > From: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 July 2005 07:40 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recomm

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2005-07-07 Thread Yan Hu
r usage > habits.. > Viel Gluck, > M- > > - Original Message - > From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" ; "Martin Gainty" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:39 PM >

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2005-07-07 Thread Martin Gainty
ourse vary depending on your usage habits.. Viel Gluck, M- - Original Message - From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" ; "Martin Gainty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [OT]

Re: Struts Books Recommendations

2005-07-07 Thread gvanmatre
> On 6/30/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would say > > Jakarta Struts Cookbook > > Struts Recipes > > as the books. > > Yes, both of these have great coverage of 1.2.x, and the best part is > that they don't overlap. > > T

Re: Struts Books Recommendations

2005-07-07 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/30/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say > Jakarta Struts Cookbook > Struts Recipes > as the books. Yes, both of these have great coverage of 1.2.x, and the best part is that they don't overlap. These two are also excellent choices for anyone wh

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-07 Thread Martin Gainty
bject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] Actually, in the US we have laws against age discrimination or discrimination based on race, religion, creed or nationality. These are termed "protected groups" under US labor law. If you were fired for one of th

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-06 Thread Brian Lee
the civil courts. BAL From: "Martin Gainty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Martin Gainty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT] Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:14:51 -0400

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2005-07-06 Thread Brandon Goodin
wrote: > Unfortunately in the US you can be canned for being too old or having the > wrong religious views > we have a ton of laws on the books but they are unenforced > My question is how do I (an older engineer with politically incorrect views) > get work in Germany > Vielen Danke, &g

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-06 Thread Martin Gainty
Unfortunately in the US you can be canned for being too old or having the wrong religious views we have a ton of laws on the books but they are unenforced My question is how do I (an older engineer with politically incorrect views) get work in Germany Vielen Danke, Martin- - Original

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-06 Thread Brandon Goodin
A Christian named Christian... that's original :) On 7/6/05, Christian Bollmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 19:48, Rick Reumann wrote: > > Hi, > > > Daniel Perry wrote the following on 7/6/2005 12:49 PM: > > > Hah, it's the business use of web/email they fire you for.

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

2005-07-06 Thread Christian Bollmeyer
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 19:48, Rick Reumann wrote: Hi, > Daniel Perry wrote the following on 7/6/2005 12:49 PM: > > Hah, it's the business use of web/email they fire you for. Go read > > your terms of employment, and the reference to "IT acceptible use > > policy" that you inadvertantly agreed

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations

2005-07-06 Thread Brandon Goodin
Would all you shad up and get back to talking about how dead struts 1.x is :) Long live Shale and JSF!!! Brandon On 7/6/05, Nick Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > talk about an OT thread! > > > 1) The inconsistency in what is protected. For example everyone today > > talks about "tolerance."

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