Brandon: Now you perhaps have seen his email. Was he joking? No he was very serious.
--- Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yan Hu, > > Take it down a notch amigo. If you hadn't noticed we were being > playful. Maybe they don't have a since of humor in other countries ;-) > <-- please notice wink face so that you are not offended and under the > assumption that i am serious. > > Brandon > > On 7/8/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last time the price tag I checked on these 2 idiots was 0/hour. Is this > > your personal > playground > > to make fun of H1Bs or a struts list? Hey, do not hate the players. Hate > > the game. > > > > --- Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Brandon- > > > Keeping in mind that No inductive generalisations can qualify from these > > > premises > > > The last time I checked The price for the aforementioned is pegged at > > > 1c/hour > > > which by my calculations qualifies as 'outsourcing the outsourcers' > > > This is the MSRP ..Your mileage may of course vary depending on your usage > > > habits.. > > > Viel Gluck, > > > M- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user@struts.apache.org>; "Martin Gainty" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations > > > [OT] > > > > > > > > > Where do you work!? I am going to notify your boss of you disgruntle > > > behavior on this list!!! No wonder why we have H1Bs. They never > > > complain and just take their 2 cents an hour. > > > > > > And I mean that in the best possible way :p ;-) :D > > > > > > Brandon > > > > > > On 7/6/05, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Unfortunately in the US you can be canned for being too old or having > > > > the > > > > wrong religious views > > > > we have a ton of laws on the books but they are unenforced > > > > My question is how do I (an older engineer with politically incorrect > > > > views) > > > > get work in Germany > > > > Vielen Danke, > > > > Martin- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Christian Bollmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user@struts.apache.org> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:31 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations > > > > [OT] > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 19:48, Rick Reumann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > >> Daniel Perry wrote the following on 7/6/2005 12:49 PM: > > > > >> > Hah, it's the business use of web/email they fire you for. Go read > > > > >> > your terms of employment, and the reference to "IT acceptible use > > > > >> > policy" that you inadvertantly agreed to. > > > > >> > > > > >> (the below has nothing to do with Mark).. > > > > >> > > > > >> For the record, I'm not against an employer firing an employee for > > > > >> 'whatever' reason they deem fit. If they don't like the way you wear > > > > >> your hair, I think they should have the right to fire you if they > > > > >> want. (The public also has a right to know about it based on the use > > > > >> of the press etc). > > > > > > > > > > Now though I'm clearly not in the position to get fired anytime soon, > > > > > I still think as long as I'm doing my job right and don't blame the > > > > > company I work for, what I do in my leisure time is not my > > > > > employer's business. Including my haircut, age, religious beliefs > > > > > or whatever. What I sell are my skills, work performance and > > > > > last but not least a significant part of my lifetime, but neither > > > > > my soul nor my private life. In Germany, it's not quite that easy > > > > > to get rid of someone who, lets say, just got older because of > > > > > working for you. And I think this is just. Stealing silver spoons, > > > > > including deliberately breaking company rules in terms of > > > > > e-mail usage and the like is another issue. > > > > > > > > > >> Personally, if I owned a company and someone was using the company > > > > >> email domain name to post on sites such as "swingers" or > > > > >> "transvestitepride," I think I should have right to terminate his or > > > > >> her's employment. What I have a problem with is ... > > > > >> > > > > >> 1) The inconsistency in what is protected. For example everyone today > > > > >> talks about "tolerance." But what does this mean? What it ends up > > > > >> meaning is "There are no moral absolutes so the only valid belief > > > > >> system protected is one that doesn't espouse moral judgments." But > > > > >> what about being tolerant to the idea that someone might feel > > > > >> otherwise? Why is state sanctioned secularism the only valid > > > > >> religion (and yes secularism is a belief system - a religion). It's > > > > >> sort of funny that those whom often claim to be the most 'tolerant' > > > > >> are often the most vicious when it comes to attacking someone that > > > > >> disagrees with their view of "tolerance." There are many views I > > > > >> could state that would get me labeled as being 'intolerant,' yet, > > > > >> somehow it's supposedly not offensive to state "All views on X,Y,orZ > > > > >> are equally acceptable." To me, and many others, that later position > > > > >> can be considered extremely offensive. Why is only one view (secular > > > > >> humanism) considered 'non offensive' but other religious views are > > > > >> some how bigoted and intolerant. It's pure hypocrisy. > > > > > > > > > > In Germany, in a major part thanks to the US (I mean it!), religious > > > > > freedom, for instance, is granted to everyone in our Constitutional > > > > > Law (Art. 4 GG). Getting fired just because of one's religious views > > > > > is impossible by law. So I, who believes in Jesus Christ as my > > > > > personal > > > > > saviour and follows the Bible as his above-all-worldly-wisdom guide > > > > > can happily work together with Hindus and common atheists, in- > > > > > cluding my boss. I can even tell them if they're on the road to > > > > > eternal doom, the same as they may tell me I'm ridiciously wrong, > > > > > and still keep my job. And in fact, the Bible is quite intolerant when > > > > > confronted with modern secularism, but what's my choice? As > > > > > for general opinions and secular beliefs, we have Art. 5 GG > > > > > which grants freedom of speech. So there's no need for > > > > > hypocrisy here at all. On the other hand, I definitely never > > > > > would use a company e-mail address for anything other > > > > > than business communication, and whoever deliberately > > > > > chooses to do otherwise may just have to face the fruits > > > > > of his dauntness. Or his dumbness, if you will. > > > > > > > > > >> 2) Someone taking the time on the list to 'complain' to someone's > > > > >> employer. Sure you have the right to do so, but I think it's lame. > > > > > > > > > > Quality never goes out of style, but good manners may. Possibly > > > > > a matter of education and attitude. 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