Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Others too. I am using Apple Mail.=20 Bob S > On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:14 AM, harrison--- via use-livecode wrote: >=20 > Hi Bob, >=20 > Emails from you appear to be messed up. >=20 > Rick >=20 >> On Jun 5, 2025, at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode =3D > wrote: >> =3D20 >> Apparently neither

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Apparently neither is mine.=20 Bob S > On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >=20 > Yours is not.=3D20 >=20 > Bob S >=20 >=20 >> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode sts.runrev.com> wrote: >> =3D20 >> your email is fine. >> =3D20 >> On Thu, Jun 5,

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Bob, Emails from you appear to be messed up. Rick > On Jun 5, 2025, at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode = wrote: >=20 > Apparently neither is mine.=3D20 >=20 > Bob S >=20 >=20 >> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:01 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode = sts.runrev.com> wrote: >> =3D20 >> Yours is not

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Looks good.=20 Bob S > On Jun 5, 2025, at 2:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: >=20 > How is the formatting today? >=20 > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > Build Software You'll Never Outgrow >=20 > __

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yours is not.=20 Bob S > On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:41 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: >=20 > your email is fine. >=20 > On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM Heather Laine via use-liveco= de < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >=20 >> How is the formatting today? >>=20 >> Heathe

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Looks good to me. Wondering how this message will show up. Cheers, Panos On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 16:53, harrison--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Heather, > > It looks Ok for the little bit you sent. > Perhaps you should do a test with a > lot more text in it to se

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Heather, It looks Ok for the little bit you sent. Perhaps you should do a test with a lot more text in it to see if something makes it glitch. Rick > On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode = wrote: >=20 > How is the formatting today? >=20 > Heather Laine > Customer Servic

Re: Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
your email is fine. On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 5:51=E2=80=AFAM Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > How is the formatting today? > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > Build Software You'll Never Outgrow > > __

Testing the list

2025-06-05 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
How is the formatting today? Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com Build Software You'll Never Outgrow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: testing the list

2024-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Okay. ;-) > On Sep 5, 2024, at 1:50 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode > wrote: > > please ignore > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

testing the list

2024-09-05 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
please ignore Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.run

testing the archive

2021-11-19 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Does this archive correctly? List members, this is not for you :) Best Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subs

Testing 3.4.5.6

2021-02-03 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Rick, Get this? Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: ben testing access

2020-12-08 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Just testing Ben's access to list, nothing to see here. Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 8 Dec 2020, at 12:09, Ben Helder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hey there > > > Stay Safe! > > > Met vriendelijke groe

Testing spell checking with Hunspell Extension

2020-04-22 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
ld be interested in having some other people test it out to see if it works for them. I'm hoping that those with Windows versions of LiveCode that support LCB could test it out and see if everything works in the test stack. The Github repo is at the url below and there is a section titled "

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I wouldn't Google, "Sacrificing Chickens" these days. You might get a visit from some unpleasant people. ;-) Bob S > On Aug 10, 2019, at 22:49 , scott--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello Alan, > > I only said that it works for me… I have NO idea HOW it works :- ) > If it were me I would

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-12 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
Jacque has a handy tool called Airlaunch that allows you to deliver builds over the air (via web server). [https://livecode.com/products/thirdparty/hyperactivesw/airlaunch-1-0-0/] Another option is to save the standalone and install directly via the Devices panel in Xcode. [https://docs.m

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Indeed. Create a standalone and drag that file to your real device in xcode it then gets installed and works for about 6 or 7 days, then renew the provisioning profile in xcode. Op 11-8-2019 om 15:21 schreef panagiotis merakos via use-livecode: Hello all, This was always the case. Deploying

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-11 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello all, This was always the case. Deploying to iOS device directly via the Test button has always been a Business-only feature. For other editions, you have to use Xcode to install the app into the device. Kind regards, Panos On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 13:37 Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-li

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-11 Thread Alan Stenhouse via use-livecode
Hi Panos Thanks for clarifying this. Now I'm wondering when exactly this changed as it definitely used to work in the Indy edition. On the brights side, thanks to you (+ Scott), I won't have to try Scott's 4th suggestion as to which color chicken to sacrifice...! :-) cheers Alan On 11 Aug 20

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-11 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I don't know whether to ask    "Why?" or   "What's the bug number in QC to see when this is fixed ?" or   "Is there some obscure reason that we would never guess why this difference exists ?" :-) Alex. On 11/08/2019 08:15, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hello all, The iOS c

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-11 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
ug 10, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Alan Stenhouse via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Scott > > > > Yes, I believe everything is configured correctly. I've been building + > testing apps with LC Indy for mobile for many years and it&#

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-10 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Scott > > Yes, I believe everything is configured correctly. I've been building + > testing apps with LC Indy for mobile for many years and it's only relatively > recently (last n months) that I've been having these problems. I can

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-10 Thread Alan Stenhouse via use-livecode
Hi Scott Yes, I believe everything is configured correctly. I've been building + testing apps with LC Indy for mobile for many years and it's only relatively recently (last n months) that I've been having these problems. I can still test on the simulators but my iPhone doesn&

Re: load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-09 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
onfigured correctly in LC Preferences? — Scott Morrow > On Aug 9, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Alan Stenhouse via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just wondering how we can download an ios build to our own local device for > testing these days? > > It used to be easy with iTunes

load app to ios device for testing??

2019-08-09 Thread Alan Stenhouse via use-livecode
Just wondering how we can download an ios build to our own local device for testing these days? It used to be easy with iTunes to just attach your phone and download the app to the connected device inside iTunes, but that no longer seems possible (though possibly I'm missing something?

iOS 12 testing

2018-07-20 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I tested at app on iOS 12 beta 4, and the Console details of the crash are below. I wanted to compare what it would be like when it works, so tried to test on an iOS 11 iPhone. But, it’s a new device, and my provisioning profiles have changed. Under LC 7.1.4 I couldn’t see my profile listed. Th

Re: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions

2017-11-16 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
ge- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM > To: How LiveCode > Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > Subject: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions

RE: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions

2017-11-15 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
ev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM To: How LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions Someone suggested we could test bandwidth by getting the milliseconds before calling a pin

Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions

2017-11-15 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Someone suggested we could test bandwidth by getting the milliseconds before calling a ping.txt file on our server (contains one word "true") and then check the milliseconds after getting the result and we might use this to determine if the bandwidth was sufficient for streaming content from the

Testing... can you hear me now...

2017-10-09 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Folks, the use-list had a brief outage over the weekend. I'm just checking we are back up and running. You needn't all reply! I'll see this mail if its working :) Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
You're right, the profile is embedded in the app. I was just wondering if Xcode was doing some extra manipulation. Probably not, but you might check to be sure there are no expired profiles in keychain. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
So I suggest you file a report. However, I use the "Test" button for testing on iOS devices before each release, and it works as expected for me. If it doesn't work for me, then installing using Xcode fails too, but using Xcode gives a (usually) informative error msg (which is usually re

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
"baked" into the app, not "backed"! On 18/09/2017 09:59, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when t

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when the Standalone Builder builds the standalone? (I'm not building the app with Xcode, just using it

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 9/16/17 1:40 PM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for the reply, and I certainly have had that problem often enough - but not this time. I can build a standalone, and use Xcode to install it on the phone; and it works. So I don't have a provisioning profile issue in this case.

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
. To figure out what the heck is going on, do the install using xcode and you'll get the error message. After you have the PP issue resolved, testing directly on the device will work. On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you've got a provisioning profile issue, so the install is failing silently. It's documented in bug report xx. To figure out what the heck is going on, do the install using xcode and you'll get the error message. After you have the PP issue resolved, testing directly on the d

Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
It's taken me ages to get my system back together to do iOS development properly (forced to update phone, so then couldn't develop to it without latest xcode, but that required sierra, needed to not update to Sierra for a while.. bah). So finally I've got my MacBook on Sierra, I've got Xcode 1

Re: [OT] User testing

2017-07-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
K!!! :-) Bob S On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:13 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I've just been sent this in the email; don't know whether it's any good or not: http://info.usertesting.com/Complete-Guide.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hacking-ui&utm_campaig

Re: [OT] User testing

2017-07-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
ther it's > any good or not: > > http://info.usertesting.com/Complete-Guide.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hacking-ui&utm_campaign=email_the-complete-guide-to-user-testing-websites-apps-and-prototypes_hacking-ui-pixelbuddha-073117_global__&utm_content=hac

[OT] User testing

2017-07-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I've just been sent this in the email; don't know whether it's any good or not: http://info.usertesting.com/Complete-Guide.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hacking-ui&utm_campaign=email_the-complete-guide-to-user-testing-websites-apps-and-prototypes_hacking-ui-

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Monte wrote: > I’m not really sure that A/B tests of the IDE is something we should be > attempting to do at all as we don’t have the resources to do it with the > number of people required to get decent data. +42 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-live

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:56 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm just wondering, should I wait for the A/B test sequences or just throw a > current version at him? Well there’s not much point doing A/B tests unless you have a decent size group to gather data on which performed

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't believe there is anything that is "risk free". HOWEVER, I am looking to set up programming classes throughout the year starting in October, at which point I should have both: 1. Kids with NO programming experience whatsover. 2. Kids with experience in either Visual BASIC and/or C++.

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/30/17 3:32 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch him (with my mouth firmly shut

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a > neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch him (with my mouth > firmly shut) and take notes on what happens. > > He's curren

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/30/17 12:16 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: **How can all our existing users help with our user testing? Well, the above approach has one further *really* useful aspect. For any licenses which are not marked with a test funnel (or indeed are marked with a dead test funnel) we

Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-29 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-30 01:04, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I’m actually not sure I see the connection between the ide submodule and the 8.1.6-rc-2. Heh - the connection is indirect, however it is definitely there! **The goal: We want to do A/B testing on LiveCode's 'first run&#

Re: Should RunRev create a testing circle for developers?

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > Would it be helpful if the Mothership had a group activity where > developers could put in a certain number of hours testing others' > apps, and then cash in for an equal number of hours from other > developers getting their own apps tested? I think such

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/16/2017 03:50 PM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: On Jul 16, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Well, as I noted, it *does* affect linux, but not in a bad way. Control-tab continues to iterate through the tabs as long as the script editor is in front, and continue

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
> On Jul 16, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, as I noted, it *does* affect linux, but not in a bad way. Control-tab > continues to iterate through the tabs as long as the script editor is in > front, and continues to switch modes when it's not. That’s a bug t

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/16/2017 01:33 PM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: The control-tab “fix” I’m proposing will only effect MacOS users and I would not expect Linux or Windows users to be effected at all by the MacOS control-tab. If you are on Linux/Windows it should not matter whether the Script Editor is

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/16/17 3:33 PM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: On Jul 16, 2017, at 3:37 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: This is going to totally screw up a macro I've been using for 15+ years. I know I'm a voice in the wilderness but if this gets offic

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
> On Jul 16, 2017, at 3:37 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > This is going to totally screw up a macro I've been using for 15+ years. I > know I'm a voice in the wilderness but if this gets officially implemented I > hope there's an option

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/16/17 2:50 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/16/2017 12:37 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: This is going to totally screw up a macro I've been using for 15+ years. I know I'm a voice in the wilderness but if this gets officially implemented I hope there's an option

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/16/2017 12:37 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: This is going to totally screw up a macro I've been using for 15+ years. I know I'm a voice in the wilderness but if this gets officially implemented I hope there's an option to turn it off, or supply your own key combination. I

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/16/17 2:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/16/2017 08:47 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: The enhancement is for MacOS Users enabling control+tab to cycle the tabs in the script editor (command-tab is OS reserved on MacOS). I’m not going to go into how to apply the fix bu

Re: Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/16/2017 08:47 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: I’m looking for testing help. The work I did is for MacOS but I would love Linux and Windows users to also try out the changes looking for side effects. I don’t have the resources to perform adequate testing of the changes and need a

Should RunRev create a testing circle for developers?

2017-07-16 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but thought I would throw it out there. Would it be helpful if the Mothership had a group activity where developers could put in a certain number of hours testing others' apps, and then cash in for an equal number of hours from other

Help Testing Small Script Editor Enhancement

2017-07-16 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
I’m looking for testing help. The work I did is for MacOS but I would love Linux and Windows users to also try out the changes looking for side effects. I don’t have the resources to perform adequate testing of the changes and need a little help before I submit my pull request. The enhancement

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Your testers can be remote, assuming you get "live wires" who will dedicate time to testing/ communications I always invite them to SLACK asap so they feel they can contact me any time and then we jump into appear.in video rooms. I just exited 2 hours of meetings with one youn

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On July 7, 2017 8:26:53 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: There's a truism that you can't test your own software - you're way to close to the way it *should* work to ever figure out how users are going to try to use it. Oh man is that ever true. I'm lucky enough in one of my current pro

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/07/2017 05:07 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: That's it. Everything else I'm about to tell you is just commentary." Great background story. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/07/2017 05:50 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: The way my brain works, I am decent at figuring out clever solutions, but terrible at realizing what others will find intuitive. Heh. You're not alone there. There's a truism that you can't test your own software - you're way to

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
t; > > In V2 or V3 I'm planning to have a little more curated entry to the app… > There's got to be more of "a story here" > > so you will never get this UX feedback on your own. > > I have about 40 beta testers.. even they are, frankly terrible about give

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
UX feedback on your own. I have about 40 beta testers.. even they are, frankly terrible about give us feedback. … if you are non-profit or on shoe string budgets, you can't pay for testing, and volunteers are often super busy people. So you have to be very pro-active in engaging feedback.

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
use trolls as an asset, but that is not fully thought out yet. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 6:24 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Jonathon: > There are two learning processes going on. One is for the person testing the > software, the second is

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Jonathon: There are two learning processes going on. One is for the person testing the software, the second is for you, learning what kinds of interface approaches hang up new users. As you learn, by observing users, you will gain approaches that minimize future user problems, and you will find

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It does help, Scott - sounds like I should segment the testing process with a cycle, running through the test, observe, discuss, note cycle for each group of functionalities. Not unlike PM methodology. Because I am looking to perfect and grow a single app over many years, I should be able to

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It sounds like a little bit of direct, intensive observation is worth a lot of testing a a distance. Thanks Jeff Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I second bill's approach of watching folk

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Scott Rossi via use-livecode
sw.com/resources_testing.html >>> >>> >>>> On July 7, 2017 6:59:52 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What steps do you guys follow for ac

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode
were really trying to do somehow avoided most all the little design eddies that folks would get a little hung up by. But watching you could quickly see those eddies w.o having to do hard core testing. Sadly this is hard to do for free in a school anymore but hiring some kids or adults will do.

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Well, 3 out of 3 people who tested my app from this list got stuck signing up, but no one got stuck when I was there to prompt them to use the Universal Options button. So, I have to discipline myself to keep my mouth shut. Everything depends on it. This is my second time reading your article,

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
That's a good summary. It's tedious sometimes but essential. The hardest part by far is keeping your mouth shut. If I had a one-way mirror in a sound-proofed room I'd use that. Another method might be to have the user share their screen and turn off your microphone, but screen sharing is not ea

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
andman Gay via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> http://hyperactivesw.com/resources_testing.html >> >> >>> On July 7, 2017 6:59:52 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> What steps do you guys follow for accurate testing when

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
>> What steps do you guys follow for accurate testing when you don't have a >> budget for proper official testing procedures? > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > &g

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
http://hyperactivesw.com/resources_testing.html On July 7, 2017 6:59:52 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: What steps do you guys follow for accurate testing when you don't have a budget for proper official testing procedures? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
; William Prothero > http://es.earthednet.org > > On Jul 7, 2017, at 4:57 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think my experience of the last two days has taught me something - I have > been micro-coaching my friends when they try my app. > > Just the little

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
ave been micro-coaching my friends when they try my app. > > > > Just the littlest input, like saying "oh, just press the button again to > submit" comes so easily and, apparently mucks up testing entirely. > > > > While the harm will be minimal in this case,

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
the button again to submit" comes so easily and, apparently mucks up testing entirely. While the harm will be minimal in this case, I can see where it could be disastrous for a large company. What steps do you guys follow for accurate testing when you don't have a budget for pr

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/07/2017 07:29 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote: Actually watching users is invaluable. Absolutely. And try to resist the urge to help them along. And take notes about where they hesitate or stumble. As a QA engineer, I find that when I'm faced with a new application I have about

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
two days has taught me something - I have > been micro-coaching my friends when they try my app. > > Just the littlest input, like saying "oh, just press the button again to > submit" comes so easily and, apparently mucks up testing entirely. > > While the harm will be

Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I think my experience of the last two days has taught me something - I have been micro-coaching my friends when they try my app. Just the littlest input, like saying "oh, just press the button again to submit" comes so easily and, apparently mucks up testing entirely. While the ha

Fwd: Following our last weeks AB testing reports and exchanges : some Livecode TCP application’s server and Livecode CGI server sample apps and resources

2016-04-16 Thread Pierre Sahores
ing our last weeks AB testing reports and exchanges : some > Livecode TCP application’s server and Livecode CGI server sample apps and > resources > Date: 16 avril 2016 17:46:25 UTC+2 > À: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Répondre à: How to use LiveCode > > Pierre Sahores wrot

Re: Following our last weeks AB testing reports and exchanges : some Livecode TCP application’s server and Livecode CGI server sample apps and resources

2016-04-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pierre Sahores wrote: > Some OpenResty’s LuaJIT, Livecode TCP application’s server and > Livecode CGI server sample apps and resources to share with our > sweet Livecode community. MIT licensed and free for any use. > > https://github.com/arsheos/openresty-dedicated-toolsets/branches/all > > Live

Following our last weeks AB testing reports and exchanges : some Livecode TCP application’s server and Livecode CGI server sample apps and resources

2016-04-16 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear LC fellows, Some OpenResty’s LuaJIT, Livecode TCP application’s server and Livecode CGI server sample apps and resources to share with our sweet Livecode community. MIT licensed and free for any use. https://github.com/arsheos/openresty-dedicated-toolsets/branches/all Livecode TCP and CG

Rép : some AB testing ...

2016-02-15 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear Livecoders, I promise to be back with some final tests and related thoughts and here they are. All tests went carefully done in using both ApacheBench 2.3 Revision 1528965 and Siege 3.0.5 with same average results. Only the Siege ones are reported there to maintain this report as readable

re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
> Hi Livecoders, > > Question 1 : is Livecode application’s server really faster than Livecode CGI > server running on Nginx, OpenLiteSpeed or Apache2 and how to get this proven > (in counting successfully TCP connexions only) ? Just se below : > > #http://localhost:80/index.lc;

re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Livecoders, Question 1 : is Livecode application’s server really faster than Livecode CGI server running on Nginx, OpenLiteSpeed or Apache2 and how to get this proven (in counting successfully TCP connexions only) ? Just se below : #http://localhost:80/index.lc; # eeePCU : N

Re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
vers"? A socket server? Precisely. Can you share some code? Not at this time. I look forward to when you can. I use standalones as CGIs exclusively, using LC Server only for testing to help others. I've not considered a possible performance gain in doing so; I do it mostly to have th

Re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Yes, as long as the tests are done against simple « Hello World » alike queries. In real world, with SQL well urbanized db, we have to expect that all performance (Openresty ones included) will slow down from 35% (very cleanly modeled applications + sql back-ends) to the infinite (sad ones, alik

Re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
> Le 9 févr. 2016 à 01:27, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > > Pierre Sahores wrote: > > > Story made short : Appart the amazing Lua platform (preferably set as > > an Openresty one), well configured LC application’s servers still > > outperforms anything available around (Websphere, Tomcat, PHP5/7, >

Re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-08 Thread Matt Maier
Is that the maximum theoretical value? The actual connections per second would depend on the size of the data and how much processing it needs, right? Also, what is Livecode Application Server? On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > Hi Livecoders, > > Story made short : Appart

Re: some AB testing ...

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pierre Sahores wrote: > Story made short : Appart the amazing Lua platform (preferably set as > an Openresty one), well configured LC application’s servers still > outperforms anything available around (Websphere, Tomcat, PHP5/7, > Perl5, NodeJS, Go, Python, RoR,…). In-between, LC application’s >

some AB testing ...

2016-02-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Livecoders, Story made short : Appart the amazing Lua platform (preferably set as an Openresty one), well configured LC application’s servers still outperforms anything available around (Websphere, Tomcat, PHP5/7, Perl5, NodeJS, Go, Python, RoR,…). In-between, LC application’s server is 60 t

Re: Stress or Regression Testing System for LiveCode

2015-12-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-12-09 00:24, Todd Fabacher wrote: Is there any system for proper testing that can "plug" into LiveCode? I think on mobile this would be even more difficult as there is no remote debugging correct? For engine development, there's a framework based on script-only stacks.

Re: Stress or Regression Testing System for LiveCode

2015-12-08 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yup. It's called, "A classroom of third graders." ;-) Bob S On Dec 8, 2015, at 15:24 , Todd Fabacher mailto:tfabac...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is there any system for proper testing that can "plug" into LiveCode? I think on mobile this would be even more difficult

Stress or Regression Testing System for LiveCode

2015-12-08 Thread Todd Fabacher
Is there any system for proper testing that can "plug" into LiveCode? I think on mobile this would be even more difficult as there is no remote debugging correct? Thanks, Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pl

Re: Question on How to Distribute iOS apps for testing

2015-05-07 Thread William Prothero
ably never, at least for the near >> term, put into the Apple Store. I want to be able to distribute it to a >> few friends, though, without them having to load it on their using Xcode. >> >> Iąve been testing this on my own computer, trying to use iTunes, which I >> unde

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