It sounds like a little bit of direct, intensive observation is worth a lot of 
testing a a distance.

Thanks Jeff

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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
> 
> I second bill's approach of watching folks use the app. Years of educational 
> software creation taught me this. I would always make friends with a local 
> teacher that was into tech and they usually were happy to get a period to try 
> something on the kids if it only took one period to do in the lab and was 
> something they thought good first. Things were so self evident on what just 
> worked and what crashed and burned. I really found that the designs that were 
> forced (usually by marketing) always crashed and burned, but the just good 
> ideas that came out of what was it we were really trying to do somehow 
> avoided most all the little design eddies that folks would get a little hung 
> up by. But watching you could quickly see those eddies w.o having to do hard 
> core testing. Sadly this is hard to do for free in a school anymore but 
> hiring some kids or adults will do.
> 
> It's funny as I've found the same thing with exhibit design. I would always 
> spend a few hours just watching folks after we finished an exhibit. I found 
> it really invaluable to find the little issues and the big ones and you could 
> see so easily what folks were getting and what they were not, what they were 
> looking and and not looking at and how they felt about the exhibit in the 
> whole. Many of these exhibits got very expensive summative evaluations and I 
> found that my just watching observations were right in line with heavy 
> testing and many times a bit more complete and useful for potentially fixing 
> things and learning for the future.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:53 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathon,
>> I feel your pain. In my case, I was initiated by my students and very 
>> quickly learned how to ask the questions a newbie would ask. I also paid 
>> small amounts to graduate students to get their feedback.
>> 
>> One of my very effective testers is my grandson, my wife, any of my 
>> colleagues who might be enticed to use the app. Looking over the shoulder 
>> while these folks use the app can be very illuminating. 
>> 
>> In summary:
>> 1. Ask friends and relatives first.
>> 2. Perhaps there would be volunteers from the live ode users group.
>> 3. Hire high school students who might have a tech interest. Look over their 
>> shoulders as they use the app and dialog to themselves. Actually watching 
>> users is invaluable.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Bill P
> 
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