Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/2015 4:35 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ## Business Application Framework != version control for stacks In the meantime, one of our developers explored an alternative approach to storing apps in version control. It becomes much easier when you constrain users to write and design their progr

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 13/08/15 07:02, Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/12/2015 10:01 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: First, they are no longer "Runtime Revolution" or "RunRev", they are "LiveCode" and have legally changed the company name. I don't think that's correct. The legal documents all say Runtime Revolution, Ltd.

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 10:01 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: First, they are no longer "Runtime Revolution" or "RunRev", they are "LiveCode" and have legally changed the company name. I don't think that's correct. The legal documents all say Runtime Revolution, Ltd. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com __

RE: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Ralph DiMola
+1 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lambert Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:08 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Busin

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 02:27 PM, Richmond wrote: However, I do think that the person who said "Good luck list/livecode community, I'll see you later." is not helping at all. That is just negative flack that does not lead anywhere. Agreed, although I have to admit I understand and have been tending in

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
The engine level UUIDs would help a lot to ensure new objects get UUIDs particularly after copy, clone etc. It's not critical the widget stud is. Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Aug 2015, at 12:32 pm, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Right. I thought lcVCS was basically as far as we could take this, given t

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 02:35 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: ## Current state of version control for stacks I spent the first few months after joining LiveCode attempting to implement a scheme which would allow *any* LiveCode app -- no matter how complicated -- to be stored in a format that could be reliably

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Richard Gaskin wrote: So lets dive in with lcVCS in v7 today, and with any luck the project will attract enough contributors that they'll be able to handle at least some of whatever work may be needed to port it to v8 later, allowing you to maximize the time you spend on your externals which t

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 02:57 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I wonder if the current situation warrants a further investigation into the things that would assist my script based solution? Object UUIDs and more support for working out widget metadata without depending on ide code. Right. I thought lcVCS was

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 05:45 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Why doesn’t this thing support zip files... Indeed. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 9:52 am, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> "Sample Stacks" is a bit of a turn-off, and the older "RevOnline" name >> wasn't much better. But the role is very very worthwhile: it's where all of >> us can share stack files easily. > > I’ll upload today. Hmm… can’t upload becau

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Lambert
RichardG wrote: > I'm not on any payroll but my own; I am not an employee of > LiveCode Ltd. My role is as a volunteer, and focused solely on > fostering the Community Edition through open source process. I and surely many are most grateful for your superb service to our LiveCode community.

RE: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Richard wrote: > > Did I just miss it? Hi Richard, You did. On http://mergext.com/mergext/ lcVCS is available under the Download tab > Plugins. One may need to be logged in. Otherwise it is on github as PaulR wrote. Jim Lambert ___

Re: lcVCS in the LC Forums

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 9:32 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > I'll update my new post to point to the main thread in Version Control, but > leave it in place since the Community Projects section can be another good > place to attract contributors. That’s fine. One thing you might be interested in i

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> It seems that it's very much in the game. Peter's post was especially > helpful for two reasons: > > - It confirms the inherent difficulty in creating a general-purpose > VCS tool that covers all edge cases. Yes there were a few of curly issues I had to get my head around. > > - It clarifi

Re: lcVCS in the LC Forums

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > Hmm… there is already a Version Control forum under LiveCode Open > Source which I’ve been posting about lcVCS and I thought would be > a good place to keep our minds open to other version control > projects or just general questions about git or github etc. Argh - the for

Re: lcVCS in the LC Forums

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Hmm… there is already a Version Control forum under LiveCode Open Source which I’ve been posting about lcVCS and I thought would be a good place to keep our minds open to other version control projects or just general questions about git or github etc. > On 13 Aug 2015, at 9:22 am, Richard Gask

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
> Le 12 août 2015 à 19:01, Kevin Miller a écrit : > > The Business Application Framework is a framework for writing more serious > applications in LiveCode. It is far more than simply adding ³GitHub" to > LiveCode. It brings in advanced concepts such as object-orientation, a > model-view controll

lcVCS in the LC Forums

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Given that our community has needed good Github integration for a long time, and that Monte's lcVCS seems to be the most mature solution available at this time, I've taken the liberty of making a section for it under Community Projects in the LiveCode forums:

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread dunbarx
"Neither of these worked." Sure they do, or rather, they compile without issue. But the code snippets you supplied, before I fixed them, do not do much, since they contain no data to work with, and create nothing. But if you populate some of those orphaned variable references, you will get outp

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 5:08 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > To put it into perspective, half of all iOS revenues go to only the top 100 > developers, and the majority of those apps are available on both platforms. > The top 1,000 developers consumer most of the app store revenue, with the > othe

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> 1. Why hasn't this been more widely promoted? > > It's only been promoted on the lists, forums and Facebook. For > a while RunRev were going to buy it, then they decided to do > their own so I stopped pushing ahead with lcVCS as it appeared > to be a waste of time. Now th

Re: [OT] Teaching methodology

2015-08-12 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Richmond, ive used a combo when teaching high school kids in the US software or programming. I do some mini lessons so they do practical project (always found this better than theoretical exercises with most students) on a subset of commands or features. proceed each with a small amount of disc

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Thanks for the details Peter. I had thought the BAF was a product of your work on the file format. I wonder if the current situation warrants a further investigation into the things that would assist my script based solution? Object UUIDs and more support for working out widget metadata without

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread William Prothero
"But if there's anything in recent discussions on which there's anything close to unanimity, whether from ol' timers or newcomers, whether from open source developers or proprietary entrepreneurs, it's that maintaining feature parity between Community and Commercial as close as practical is impo

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
> 1. Why hasn't this been more widely promoted? It's only been promoted on the lists, forums and Facebook. For a while RunRev were going to buy it, then they decided to do their own so I stopped pushing ahead with lcVCS as it appeared to be a waste of time. Now this and maybe it's back in the

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: I don't think LiveCode will thrive if it continues to present itself to the world in the way it is just now. The more people who state their opinion, the more healthy and pluralistic the debate will become, and the more likely that LiveCode will sit up and take notice *seriously*

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
Indeed this is what I was told. I thought I had convinced Kevin that version control needed to stop being an afterthought on this platform and start being something that just works with the core offering. The platform wouldn't even be considered by most developers because of the binary format. Y

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Alex Shaw
Personally still waiting for the "Reworked Multimedia Support".. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode/posts?page=4 The current audio support is archaic and it's still not possible to easily record audio on mobile. regards alex On 13/08/2015 5:05 am,

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-12 22:52, Richard Gaskin wrote: Now that we're talking about a much broader scope, and especially given the central role of VCS in fostering healthy open source work, my opinion is now more open than before, and somewhat undecided. If it turns out that we've had a great open source o

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Monte Goulding
It's open source Richard. Anyone can distribute it. I just choose to distribute binaries of my open source stuff via mergExt for obvious reasons Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Aug 2015, at 6:31 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Is there another option in the community that doesn't require email

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 13/08/15 00:20, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: I feel for Richard Gaskin a lot as he is caught between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, and doing that for nothing as well: not "fun" at times, I'm sure. I appreciate your concern, but my experience is very much the opposite: I'm n

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 23:59, Brahmanathaswami wrote: @ Kevin: We are non-profit.. I have an Indy license solely for the iOS password protection requirement. Expand my use case to 10,000's of students and educators and hobbyists and web site owners who mix it up with desktop clients and server side API's

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: I feel for Richard Gaskin a lot as he is caught between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, and doing that for nothing as well: not "fun" at times, I'm sure. I appreciate your concern, but my experience is very much the opposite: I'm not on any payroll but my own; I am not an em

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 23:52, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Monte said himself that he was going to stop improving it in major ways as he expected Livecode Community to have native git support that Livecode Community's steward company was working on. Many of us thought this feature was probably a WHEN and not and I

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 23:52, Richard Gaskin wrote: Andrew Kluthe wrote: ...I'm pretty shocked to that native GIT support and a proper MVC-style framework for livecode isn't part of Livecode Community. I think this is a big mistake on the part of the steward company of this software. I get the framework t

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami
@ Kevin: We are non-profit.. I have an Indy license solely for the iOS password protection requirement. Expand my use case to 10,000's of students and educators and hobbyists and web site owners who mix it up with desktop clients and server side API's like I do...if something is over my head, I

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Richards wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Matthias Rebbe wrote: >>> The only lcVCS i am aware of is the free lcVCS plugin from Monte. >>> You > can download it at his site at http://www.mergext.com. >> >> I didn't see it there, and using the site's Search box yielded 0 >> results for "lcvc

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Monte said himself that he was going to stop improving it in major ways as he expected Livecode Community to have native git support that Livecode Community's steward company was working on. Many of us thought this feature was probably a WHEN and not and IF. Sure it wasn't in the open source roadm

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andrew Kluthe wrote: ...I'm pretty shocked to that native GIT support and a proper MVC-style framework for livecode isn't part of Livecode Community. I think this is a big mistake on the part of the steward company of this software. I get the framework thing even, almost. But basic Version Contr

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
> Am 12.08.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Richard Gaskin : > > Matthias Rebbe wrote: >> >> The only lcVCS i am aware of is the free lcVCS plugin from Monte. You >> can download it at his site at http://www.mergext.com. But you have >> to register first. > > I didn't see it there, and using the site's Se

RE: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Richards
Can be found here :-) https://github.com/montegoulding/lcVCS -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: 12 August 2015 21:31 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Business Application Framework Matthia

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread EED-wp Email
Harrumph! As an Indie license holder, I'm not "serious"? Hmm. Bad choice of words, probably. I'm glad Richmond is stimulating this discussion. Lots of other good comments in this thread. Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org > On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Kev

Re: Release 6.7.7 RC 2

2015-08-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-12 16:40, Richmond wrote: This probably an extremely stupid question, and I have asked something very similar before: Now LiveCode 7 is at 7.1 what is the point of continuing to release 6.7 upgrades? We expect to start making LiveCode 6.7 releases less frequently from now on, with

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matthias Rebbe wrote: >> Am 12.08.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Richard Gaskin: >> >> Kevin Miller wrote: >> > If you want VCS in the Open Source Community or Indy edition, there >> > is already lcVCS out there >> >> Where? > > The only lcVCS i am aware of is the free lcVCS plugin from Monte. You > can d

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 22:51, Lyn Teyla wrote: Hi all, I agree with many of the posters to this thread thus far that it would appear to be a mistake to offer, at this time, solely with the Business license, additional features such as built-in GIT compatibility, OOP and MVC. I would go one step further

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread JB
I don’t completely understand the Business Aoolication Framework. I am talking about the business license version being able to use different versions such as the open source version. Does the open source version have code that people shave contributed to improving that is not part of the paid ve

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
Kevin Miller wrote: "The Business Application Framework is a framework for writing more serious applications in LiveCode." Am I the only one who feels a wee bit insulted? OK, OK, I know that I am a very small frog in the relatively large LiveCode pond . . . but I consider my /Devawriter /ser

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread Mike Bonner
You can use a custompropertyset using array notation too. set the myproperty["uName"] of button 1 to "Fred is dead" set the myproperty["uBirthday"] of button 1 to "Hatched not born" Then you can: put the myproperty["uName"] of button 1 and it'll say "fred is dead" In this way you don't have to s

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Peter Haworth wrote: Instead of setting individual cprops, you could store the whole array as a cprop - "set the uQuoteSets of this stack to aQuoteSets". When you want to use them, "put the uQuoteSets of this stack into aQuoteSets" "duh" of course... "if you make and array, just use it" i wi

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
> Am 12.08.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Richard Gaskin : > > Kevin Miller wrote: > > > If you want VCS in the Open Source Community or Indy edition, there > > is already lcVCS out there > > Where? > The only lcVCS i am aware of is the free lcVCS plugin from Monte. You can download it at his site a

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Lyn Teyla
Hi all, I agree with many of the posters to this thread thus far that it would appear to be a mistake to offer, at this time, solely with the Business license, additional features such as built-in GIT compatibility, OOP and MVC. I would go one step further and suggest, if I may, that it might,

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kevin Miller wrote: > If you want VCS in the Open Source Community or Indy edition, there > is already lcVCS out there Where? I can't find it in the only resource-sharing option provided in the IDE (currently "Sample Stacks", formerly "RevOnline"), nor at the LiveCode.org or .com sites (which

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Platform wars are best left for OS vendor marketing staff. Consumers don't care because they buy whatever fits their personal needs and desires. Developers don't care because most of the ones making any serious money are deploying to both. To put it into perspective, half of all iOS revenues

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Version control, I would argue is still necessary even if its just a single person or anyone else working on collaborating on the open source tooling directed at the community of livecode developers. To be able to maintain development branches and refactor without needing to have 50 copies of stack

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/2015 1:53 PM, Richmond wrote: But I am sure I am not the only person who suffers from this "confusion" . . . I wonder why? Maybe you missed the roadmap: Now that I re-read it, the physics engine is in there too. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 20:01, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/12/2015 11:02 AM, Richmond wrote: Why have I got the impression, over about 15 years, that Runtime Revolution looks like a teenage kid with ADS. Every day a new idea, none of which really reach fruition. After a while with a person like this one woul

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/12/2015 1:09 PM, John Dixon wrote: >> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0500 >> From: jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Subject: Re: Business Application Framework >> >> Can you name other promises they have left unfullfilled? > physics engine...

Re: Get Modification Date of a Single File

2015-08-12 Thread JB
On a mac using Xcode you would use the NFS File Manager which is a part of Foundation. Livecode has imported Foundation but I am not sure if you can acces things like that yet. John Balgenorth On Aug 12, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: > JB wrote: >> I don’t have a mobile but on the

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/2015 12:09 PM, John Dixon wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0500 From: jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Business Application Framework Can you name other promises they have left unfullfilled? physics engine... Oh yes. I believe that'

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/2015 12:45 PM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: In the end I was unable to figure out how to pass a variable string as a name of a custom property. This is how the object inspector in the IDE does it: command revInspectorSetProperty pObject, pPropName, pValue lock messages set the pPropNa

Re: Release 6.7.7 RC 2

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: This probably an extremely stupid question, and I have asked something very similar before: Now LiveCode 7 is at 7.1 what is the point of continuing to release 6.7 upgrades? Like version 5.x, and 4.x, and all earlier versions, at some point we can expect 6.x to be EOL'd. The

Re: Get Modification Date of a Single File

2015-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brahmanathaswami wrote: > JB wrote: >> I don’t have a mobile but on the older versions >> for desktops you use Files command. >> >> The detailed files form returns a list of files, one file per line. >> Each line contains the following attributes, separated by commas: >>* The file's name,

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Instead of setting individual cprops, you could store the whole array as a cprop - "set the uQuoteSets of this stack to aQuoteSets". When you want to use them, "put the uQuoteSets of this stack into aQuoteSets" By the way, I entered a QCC report about the ability to use expressions as custom prop

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
Thank you for that info, Richard. Intents is definitely a step in the right direction. ~Roger On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I would agree that the whole process does seem rather Apple-centric at > times, but did you see the Release Notes for 7.1dp1? The LC engine

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Neither of these worked... I took the cue from Mark and tried arrays this was incredibly simple... almost. In the end I was unable to figure out how to pass a variable string as a name of a custom property. My head was hurting, so instead of breaking it on further attempts to find the algorit

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
They're also showing that the market trends are in Androids favor as even free (ad sponsored apps) will get downloaded millions of times on android devices. Sure, if your apps are filling a niche big enough that a few thousand will buy it, you're in good shape. But if an app is rather average, a

RE: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread John Dixon
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0500 > From: jac...@hyperactivesw.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: Business Application Framework > > Can you name other promises they have left unfullfilled? physics engine... _

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Kevin Miller
Hi Brahmanathaswami, Thank you for all your support, we really appreciate it. Let me clarify a few things here. The Business Application Framework is a framework for writing more serious applications in LiveCode. It is far more than simply adding ³GitHub" to LiveCode. It brings in advanced conce

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/2015 11:02 AM, Richmond wrote: Why have I got the impression, over about 15 years, that Runtime Revolution looks like a teenage kid with ADS. Every day a new idea, none of which really reach fruition. After a while with a person like this one would start to wonder about their reliability

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > Read this; it didn't come from Apple though. $22B iOS -vs- $19B Android. > > http://readwrite.com/2014/07/03/ios-developer-android-developer-earnings-gap > Yeah, articles like that. The initial caption about how much easier it is for a dev

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > If your sources are from a newsfeed on an apple device, I am not surprised > at what thoughts you are allowed to have. > Huh??? I can't eve being to figure out where the is coming from. Does apple even have a newsfeed app??? I'm not a mac

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 18:47, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote: Here is the email arriving from Kevin yesterday... Subject: Something Big This is capable of a number of interpretations. I want to improve your business, your cash flow, and your development work. I want to improve *my* busin

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Here is the email arriving from Kevin yesterday... Subject: Something Big I want to improve your business, your cash flow, and your development work. To do this, we launched a new Business Application Framework. This framework brings object-oriented programming to LiveCode, is compatible wit

RE: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> That said, I'm a single developer, so git isn't > important to me. Also, if the purpose of the Indy license was > to support single developers, working alone, would git be > particularly attractive? Just asking. > Bill That makes sense to me, Bill. I cannot comment specifically on the Busine

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Earthednet-wp
I would also find it very disappointing, after locking in 3 years of Indy license, to find that addon licenses were required to access some set of wonderful new livecode features. That said, I'm a single developer, so git isn't important to me. Also, if the purpose of the Indy license was to sup

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/12/2015 05:48 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: An object-oriented framework for livecode now featuring GIT support? Does anyone have any more information on this announcement I received? ? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
Read this; it didn't come from Apple though. $22B iOS -vs- $19B Android. http://readwrite.com/2014/07/03/ios-developer-android-developer-earnings-gap On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > I think the majority of you

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Peter Haworth
I got an email from Kevin about it yesterday. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, 7:52 AM Brahmanathaswami, Sannyasin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > > > I think git support without > > having to fiddle around too much would be pretty important to an open > > source community

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
If your sources are from a newsfeed on an apple device, I am not surprised at what thoughts you are allowed to have. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > I think the majority of you have iOS devices > > because it is

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami, Sannyasin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > I think git support without > having to fiddle around too much would be pretty important to an open > source community. > Where did this announcement appear? I haven't seen it in my email and it's not in my spam. I have to agree. I have p

Re: [YO EDINBURGH!] Microsoft Open-Sources It's Toolkit For Making iOS Apps Run On Win 10

2015-08-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > I think the majority of you have iOS devices > because it is what you LIKE, not because it represents what the majority or > even half of the population HAVE. Inexpensive Android devices are getting > better and better specs all the time, and

Re: Release 6.7.7 RC 2

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
This probably an extremely stupid question, and I have asked something very similar before: Now LiveCode 7 is at 7.1 what is the point of continuing to release 6.7 upgrades? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Ple

Re: [OT] Teaching methodology

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 15:51, Mark Schonewille wrote: 1) A course can be systematic yet playful. The teacher needs to stick to a number of principles and a plan, but the children should just have fun and learn something. Of course. Except I take exception to the *just* in "just have fun" as that debases

Re: Get Modification Date of a Single File

2015-08-12 Thread Brahmanathaswami
JB wrote: I don’t have a mobile but on the older versions for desktops you use Files command. The detailed files form returns a list of files, one file per line. Each line contains the following attributes, separated by commas: * The file's name, URL-encoded * The file's size in

Re: Set Variable or CustomProperty Names with and expression

2015-08-12 Thread dunbarx
This is a classic case of a line of code needing and extra level of evaluation. Goes back to 1987. So, arrays notwithstanding, which "parse" sections of code intrinsically, you could: repeat for each item y in tCategories do "if item 6 of" && x && "contains" && y && "then put" &&

Re: [OT] Teaching methodology

2015-08-12 Thread Roger Eller
+1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > 1) A course can be systematic yet playful. The teacher needs to stick to a > number of principles and a plan, but the children should just have fun and > learn something. > > 2) When I create soft

Re: Jane Austen's peculiarity

2015-08-12 Thread BNig
Hi Richmond, in LC 7 you can use sentence as a text unit. Since sentence seems your context it is tempting to use that here is an adaption of the is/was handler returning the sentence number and the sentence Easy to read, easy to maintain and reasonably fast. Just paste the code into a copy of y

Re: Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
I am very interested as well but for some reason seem out of the loop on this development. Did I miss something in the roadmap? Curious SKIP On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > An object-oriented framework for livecode now featuring GIT support? Does > anyone have any

Re: [OT] Teaching methodology

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
1) A course can be systematic yet playful. The teacher needs to stick to a number of principles and a plan, but the children should just have fun and learn something. 2) When I create software, I do this with the skills I already possess. When I run into a problem, I enhance my skills until I

Business Application Framework

2015-08-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
An object-oriented framework for livecode now featuring GIT support? Does anyone have any more information on this announcement I received? The rest of the email talked about the new business license, which does sound interesting. Is this new framework/git support new features specific to those us

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-12 Thread stgoldb...@aol.com
Just a reminder. I have written a "getting started" book that explains the essence of LiveCode in my book LiveCode Lite: Computer Programming Made Ridiculously Simple. It may be found as a free PDF download at http://medmaster.net/livecode.html. I have not put the book into print yet because o

[OT] Does anyone here read/speak Hindi ?

2015-08-12 Thread jbv
Hi list Does anyone here read/speak Hindi ? If yes, please contact me offlist; I need some help on a very short translation. Thanks in advance jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscr

[OT] Teaching methodology

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
"Based on my experience with teaching programming to kids who already have some programming experience but are self-taught, I find that many of these self-taught programmers tend to focus on a very limited subset of one particular programming language and ignore the other, richer features because

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
I have just had an e-mail from the Mothership that says this: "I want to improve your business, your cash flow, and your development work. "To do this, we launched a new Business Application Framework. This framework brings object-oriented programming to LiveCode, is compatible with GIT and oth