Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 9:00 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Jacque, Are you saying you didn't need to insert any waits or send in times for the gif to animate? If so, I'm confused because the gif I'm using didn't animate at all unless I gave up some cpu time with a wait. I take it back, I just tried a longer

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 9:00 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Jacque, Are you saying you didn't need to insert any waits or send in times for the gif to animate? If so, I'm confused because the gif I'm using didn't animate at all unless I gave up some cpu time with a wait. That's right, I don't manage it manual

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Colin Holgate
Her example couldn't have been as demanding. In my repeat loop test I could easily make the animation stop, and had to use wait to get it to advance. But in no combination could I fail to do screen recording. On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Are you saying you didn't need

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Terry Judd
On 21/01/2013, at 01:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > But now the younger generation is smarter and far more tech-savvy than their > parents, and all that hand-holding is just not cool with them. They know > what they're doing, and they like software that respects what they know. Hey Richard -

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Jacque, Are you saying you didn't need to insert any waits or send in times for the gif to animate? If so, I'm confused because the gif I'm using didn't animate at all unless I gave up some cpu time with a wait. I'm not managing frame counts or frame rates in any way though. Pete lcSQL Softwa

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Warren Samples
On 01/20/2013 06:45 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: All your arguments rest inexorably on the precept that Apple "owes you something". Show me in any contract you and Apple have entered into where Apple is obligated to accept any app you submit! I'm sorry, Bob, but this is just BS. It's not about wha

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > Scratch that. Just give them time and they will sour the milk for the iOS > generation all by themselves. I've witnessed a few converts already. I see it all the time, and their falling market share reflects it. Changing from a computer company to a consumer electronics one

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 6:25 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Just tried Win 7 (LC 5.5.3) and it appears to have exactly the same issue. Thanks for the advice everyone, it looks like removing unnecessary menu items is what I need to do. I'm a Mac girl, I should get out more. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Roger Eller
Andre, since UAE exists for every platform, just release it for Amiga. That makes it truly write once, deploy everywhere. ;-) Sent from my Pipo M2 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
"A little rebellion is a good thing, now and then." Thomas Jefferson. :-) Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 17:37, Andre Garzia wrote: > These are interesting times and even if Apple is king now, rebellions do > happen. __

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > Is the system flawed? Sure! All things men make are! I just have a hard > time swallowing that Apple has a beef with Andre or with developers in > general. Thanks for the kind words Roger and Robert but since every mac I had broke 2 days

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Roger Eller
Scratch that. Just give them time and they will sour the milk for the iOS generation all by themselves. I've witnessed a few converts already. Sent from my Pipo M2 On Jan 20, 2013 8:22 PM, "Roger Eller" wrote: > Andre is a good and nice guy who is just trying to do a nice thing for > people. I l

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread David C.
Just for the record, it was not my intent to specifically call you lazy in an earlier comment, Bob, but rather the entire mindset of "easy security at any cost" that I was addressing. And for certain, I do have a bone to pick with Apple, just as I did before the Feds took issue with Microsoft, but

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
Okay. But no one yet has offered a credible argument for how someone can agree to something, then act contrary to it, then call it "good". I like Andre. I like what he is trying to do. He can get there by making his app more utilitarian as some have offered suggestions about. No one, not even Ap

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Roger Eller
Andre is a good and nice guy who is just trying to do a nice thing for people. I like that about people. It is NOT the developers fault for not honoring the mumbo jumbo Apple spews in their contract, or more correctly, their control of you. Any person who has been taught basic values of good and ba

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
I agree Andre. I was all about "I bought it I can do whatever the hell I like with it" when Apple was trying to establish legal grounds to prevent people from jail breaking their iPhones. No company should be able to own anything they sold outright to someone else. That was absurd. That was deci

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > All your arguments rest inexorably on the precept that Apple "owes you > something". Show me in any contract you and Apple have entered into where > Apple is obligated to accept any app you submit! Did you not read the > terms? Your fault

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
Oh that's a good idea. Didn't even think of that. This is why I love this list. People think of things that escape my notice. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 16:06, Terry Judd wrote: > I had this same problem a couple of weeks ago. I had to resort

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
All your arguments rest inexorably on the precept that Apple "owes you something". Show me in any contract you and Apple have entered into where Apple is obligated to accept any app you submit! Did you not read the terms? Your fault if you did not. Did you agree to those terms knowing full well

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread Paul Hibbert
Just tried Win 7 (LC 5.5.3) and it appears to have exactly the same issue. I tried this for a workaround, it's a bit drastic removing the choice, but it works: ## Store the menu items in a custom property "uText" ## on menuPick pItemName lock screen -- Avoid

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Dave McKee
The consumers don't care. Hodie Non Cras On 2013-01-20, at 6:56 PM, Warren Samples wrote: > I don't feel Apple has any interest that justifiably trumps the interest of > consumers to determine for themselves what is useful and valuable or the > interests of developers who have an idea they be

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread Terry Judd
I had this same problem a couple of weeks ago. I had to resort to actually removing the disabled items from the menu (by script) and replacing them when when they needed to be enabled. Terry... On 21/01/2013, at 10:29 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/20/13 5:06 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: >> I t

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Warren Samples
On 01/20/2013 04:10 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: They are saying, "can you make more utilitarian and useful to the general market?" Why is that pissing so many people off in the name of freedom? I don't get it. It seems some, not you I think, have a bone to pick with apple, and this seems an easy ta

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 5:06 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: I think it's a ui thing. Windows does not provide or define for disabled menu items. I think. I thought of that, can anyone else verify? It seems kind of stupid, if it's true. Would it only be XP or is it all versions of Windows? -- Jacqueline Landma

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 5:15 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Ok, this is really dumb, but does it make any difference if you script "enable menuItem xyz..." instead of "set the enabled of..." ? If it's dumb, then so am I because I tried it. No difference. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Ok, this is really dumb, but does it make any difference if you script "enable menuItem xyz..." instead of "set the enabled of..." ? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Original message Subject: Option button menuitem disabling From: "J. Landman G

Re: Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
I think it's a ui thing. Windows does not provide or define for disabled menu items. I think. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 14:52, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > I have some option buttons that enable/disable certain menuitems using this > syntax: >

Option button menuitem disabling

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
I have some option buttons that enable/disable certain menuitems using this syntax: set the enabled of menuitem "blah" of me to false This puts the left-parentheses next to the item, and on OS X it works fine. On Windows XP, the menu item is not dimmed, it remains selectable, and the left pa

Re: Animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
That will work so long as your blocking calls do not take a lot of time, like opening and querying a remote SQL database for a large data set. Just a thot, wouldn't it be cool if there were an idleInterval you could set where an idle message got sent no matter what at the prescribed interval? Ju

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
Erm. Had it not dawned on you that this might be because apple has this restrictive policy in the first place? It's like some roman in a bar, saying, "I don't see why we have to pay these excessive taxes. I personally have never seen one of these supposed 'Germanic horde!" Bob Sneidar IT Manage

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
Hi Andre. Respectfully I agree to disagree. My iPhone has never been compromised. My Mac laptop has. I think what apple is asking you to do as a developer is not egregious. A few features and off you go. Apple is not saying here, "damn you and you app we will never let it see the light of day!!!

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Roger Eller
It is easily to believe what they want you to believe, but I have not yet experienced any of the fear induced plagues that Apple says I will. Some people seem to be born with a need to feel protected. Haha - word prediction suggested "pretty" instead of protected. ~Roger Sent from my Pipo M2 On

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
Absolute freedom and absolute security are mutually exclusive. At least in the present state of the world as we know it. The trick is balance. You think balance lies further towards the freedom side of things. I, being an IT guy who has seen people hand their lives over to villains because they

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 3:07 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: It is already available on Android. It was my target market since I was an Android user (now I am back to WebOS because it is smarter than Android). Check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amoralabs.eponte :-D That looks fantastic!

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > While I agree that having to firewall off our personal devices is very > inconvenient, lets remember who the true villains are here. Identity > thieves, indiscriminate spammers, social engineers, etc. yes children, the > world is a bad, bad

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread David C.
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > While I agree that having to firewall off our personal devices is very > inconvenient, lets remember who the true villains are here. Identity thieves, > indiscriminate spammers, social engineers, etc. yes children, the world is a > bad, b

Re:Animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread gwendalwood
I solved the problem by using the send in time routine incrementing the frames. Works great I have used Grab to capture the screen with timed capture showing the next frame. use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Send use-livecode mailing list submissions to use-livecode@list

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
While I agree that having to firewall off our personal devices is very inconvenient, lets remember who the true villains are here. Identity thieves, indiscriminate spammers, social engineers, etc. yes children, the world is a bad, bad place. I know some think it would be better if we all just to

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I agree with your decision. You could compile your existing LiveCode app > for Android though, without any trouble. It would allow you to release it > to a large number of people right away on at least one platform. Jacque, It is already

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread chris livermore
Go Andre! On 21/01/2013, at 2:55 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Hey Folks, > > Wow huge thread! Thanks for the kind words and suggestions. I can see here > that we tend to fall into two camps. Those that think that Apple can do > whatever they choose with their platform and those that feel that the t

Re: "launch document" synchronous on Linux only?

2013-01-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Saturday, January 19, 2013, 11:24:01 PM, you wrote: > There are drawbacks to using snapshots. Typically if you want to > resize the disk or convert it from dynamic to static or vis Versa, > you have to merge the snapshots and I have had issues not being able > to merge snapshots locking me i

Re: [OT] How to apply for jobs

2013-01-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Saturday, January 19, 2013, 11:36:50 PM, you wrote: > Thanks for the responses. At least I know my gut reaction to > these job descriptions is justified. I think I'll ignore them. > Except of course when they require a security clearance that is > typically a hard fast limit. Having done t

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Colin Holgate
I tried this as a test: on mousedown repeat with a = 1 to 1 wait 1 end repeat end mousedown and QuickTime Player was still able to record the animated gif. Then I tried this: on mousedown repeat with a = 1 to 1 if a mod 100 = 0 then wait 1 end repeat

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Warren Samples
On 01/19/2013 11:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/19/13 9:16 PM, Warren Samples wrote: For all practical purposes, the market is closed and developers really do, as a practical observation, have to distribute through Apple in order to reach the platform. I think there will be third-party di

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 11:20 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: The animated gif is shown while the stack is going through a search process that can last a few seconds. I think I'm using a pretty standard method to give it time to animate, which is to issue a wait statement at regular intervals. Without the wait, i

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/13 9:55 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: LiveCode is not my only development environment and Eponte is an easy app. I will port it to Blackberry, Nokia Symbian and Windows Phone. I will port it to every mobile OS under the sun except iOS and then all the other users will have a quick and easy way

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Colin, I'm on OSX 1o.7.4 and the problem occurs running a plugin stack. I've had the same result with QT,Screenflow, Screenium, Snagit, and a couple of other screen capture programs. The animated gif is shown while the stack is going through a search process that can last a few seconds. I thi

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Folks, Wow huge thread! Thanks for the kind words and suggestions. I can see here that we tend to fall into two camps. Those that think that Apple can do whatever they choose with their platform and those that feel that the tight control by Apple is a bad thing. There is a larger issue here w

RE: OT: Super duper scripts in MS Word

2013-01-20 Thread Jim Hurley
Paul and Bob, Thanks. I see now. And apparently I saw this some time ago. Using the character dialog box you suggested, I see that in my existing sample, the superscript of my superscript is elevated by 3 points. I have absolutely no recollection of having set that elevation. I wish I could be

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Colin Holgate
I have tried both with QuickTime Player and with Snapz Pro, and both record animated gifs just fine. What setup do you have to do to stop it from working? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: [OT] How to apply for jobs

2013-01-20 Thread Richmond
On 01/20/2013 09:36 AM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Thanks for the responses. At least I know my gut reaction to these job descriptions is justified. I think I'll ignore them. Except of course when they require a security clearance that is typically a hard fast limit. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary

Re: [OT] How to apply for jobs

2013-01-20 Thread Richmond
On 01/20/2013 04:41 AM, Potts Jeff wrote: When I was looking for a job back in the mid 90's I was at an interview where they wanted 2 years java experience. THe problem was Java was just getting out of beta and due to be released in a couple of months. I was stupefied. . . it was like my C++ expe

Re: [OT] How to apply for jobs

2013-01-20 Thread Richmond
On 01/20/2013 04:04 AM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Sorry, I feel the need to vent, and maybe someone here has some advice they can give me when applying for jobs. First, I go to these job descriptions and see that they want someone with a bachelors in science, 5+ years experience, plus 3 or 4 advan

Re: Animated gif editor

2013-01-20 Thread Richmond
On 01/20/2013 03:49 AM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Richmond, do you have a modern OS X computer with plenty of memory? If so, I am very tempted to buy you a copy of Parallels. Virtually (pardon the pun) everything that only talks to Windows Drivers and not to the hardware directly will work in Para

Re: screen capture software/animated gifs

2013-01-20 Thread Richmond
On 01/20/2013 03:06 AM, Roger Eller wrote: A static screen capture will not be animated. A video capture will, but it will be a movie file. ~Roger Indeed . . . But a series of timed static screenshots might not be completely foolish. Now, Livecode can take screenshots, and it should not b

Re: [OT] A tale of App Store rejection

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
In talking about the android neighbors of course. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On Jan 19, 2013, at 18:08, Warren Samples wrote: > On 01/19/2013 07:35 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: >> They are willing to put up your app absolutely freely, if you like, so long >> as you

Re: "launch document" synchronous on Linux only?

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Sneidar
There are drawbacks to using snapshots. Typically if you want to resize the disk or convert it from dynamic to static or vis Versa, you have to merge the snapshots and I have had issues not being able to merge snapshots locking me into the current state of the drive. Also, if you have virtualize